Should Players Get Paid?

[NashVol11]

I graduated with a 3.9 and went to law school. Nobody paid me to do it. I got paid later. Same concept. The people who are "exploiting" these poor athletes earned degrees and their positions in the hierarchy that regulates college football and the NCAA. They earned that right.
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Not surprised that someone who thinks most college athletes are thugs who wouldn't get into college is also idiotic enough to defend the NCAA.

 

[pualsline]

I am pretty sure athletes do get to receive a small amount of money to live off of. I listened to an interview with Andrew luck where he talked about getting $350 a month

 

[NashVol11]

Read previous posts. They are being paid with scholarships.
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That's cool and all, but at schools with money the ones who can't afford it are given heavy financial aid anyway. If a player on the team has a kid, free education isn't putting food in his mouth, and neither is the money from the job that no athlete has time to have.

 

[rcvol]

Bottom line: if the system is so abusive and one-sided against the players, why are they lining up in droves and competing like crazy to get scholarship offers? Sounds like a brutal, plantation-like system. Please enlighten me.
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[NashVol11]

This thread is full of butthurt from people that wish they had scholarships. I had a job in college, and any other student can easily get one too. An athlete has literally no means of making money while in college unless they sell drugs. That, combined with the ridiculous amount of money they bring in and see almost none of, is more than reason enough to give athletes a stipend. Hell, I know band members that get one.

 

[rcvol]

That's cool and all, but at schools with money the ones who can't afford it are given heavy financial aid anyway. If a player on the team has a kid, free education isn't putting food in his mouth, and neither is the money from the job that no athlete has time to have.

Ahhh, so universities should now offer daycare services to the players. So we should accomodate their irresponsibilty. I get it. Not everyone is cut out for college.
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[NashVol11]

Bottom line: if the system is so abusive and one-sided against the players, why are they lining up in droves and competing like crazy to get scholarship offers? Sounds like a brutal, plantation-like system. Please enlighten me.
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Because every athlete's dream is to get to the pros and there's exactly one viable way of doing so?

 

[NashVol11]

Ahhh, so universities should now offer daycare services to the players. So we should accomodate their irresponsibilty. I get it. Not everyone is cut out for college.
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No, we should say, "**** you, either give up on your dreams or starve your child." Great point.

 

[NashVol11]

Why don't we ask the coaches what they think?

Oh, yeah, we already did that.

The question is: Should college basketball players be paid, and if so, how would you compensate them?

YES - 58 percent
NO - 42 percent

Critical Coaches: Should college basketball players be paid? - CBSSports.com

 

[rcvol]

No, we should say, "**** you, either give up on your dreams or starve your child." Great point.

If your only dream is to play NFL football, then your child will probably starve regardless.

How about not having kids in the first place? Not my problem. Not the university's either.
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[volfanhill]

Bottom line: if the system is so abusive and one-sided against the players, why are they lining up in droves and competing like crazy to get scholarship offers? Sounds like a brutal, plantation-like system. Please enlighten me.
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well because they cant go to the NFL at 18, which is a seperate but equally bs situation, and it is the only realistic way to get to the NFL

 

[volfanhill]

If your only dream is to play NFL football, then your child will probably starve regardless.

How about not having kids in the first place? Not my problem. Not the university's either.
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Well if your only dream is to be a lawyer then your child will probably starve.

 

[volfanhill]

I graduated with a 3.9 and went to law school. Nobody paid me to do it. I got paid later. Same concept. The people who are "exploiting" these poor athletes earned degrees and their positions in the hierarchy that regulates college football and the NCAA. They earned that right.
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and wait a minute you didnt exactly produce anyhting for the university while you were there. You paid tuition. You did not make the univeristy money so quit comparing your situation to theirs.

 

[AtlantaVol]

The NCAA took in 6 billion last year.

 

[Coach Grizz]

Yes. Because of NCAA rules These kids can't even get a part time job like a regular student on scholarship. They are making the university MILLIONS. So break'em off a little something

 

[volfanhill]

Yes. Because of NCAA rules These kids can't even get a part time job like a regular student on scholarship. They are making the university MILLIONS. So break'em off a little something

we are on the sams side of this argument but that is not true.My sister was a full scholarship.swimmer at uga and she had a job

 

[smokey0625]

No

 

[Lexvol]

we are on the sams side of this argument but that is not true.My sister was a full scholarship.swimmer at uga and she had a job

I had a niece that rowed at UofL. She put in as many practice hours and work outs as the guys on the basketball and football teams, even in the off season.

If the football and mens basketball players are on the payroll, it would be impossible not to pay every athlete on every roster.....especially in the confines of the world of academia. There is no way to make it happen.

 

[99gator]

You know following the argument, I see a flaw in the reasoning here on principle.

Players should be paid because they make the school millions. That's the argument. So, whether or not they should be paid is attached to the notion of how much the school makes.

Yet, no one would suggest that a cashier not get paid if the store did not make millions. The owner could not be making enough money from the store to pay himself and the cashier still gets paid.

So why is an athlete getting paid attached to the idea of how much the school makes?

 

[Lexvol]

You know following the argument, I see a flaw in the reasoning here on principle.

Players should be paid because they make the school millions. That's the argument. So, whether or not they should be paid is attached to the notion of how much the school makes.

Yet, no one would suggest that a cashier not get paid if the store did not make millions. The owner could not be making enough money from the store to pay himself and the cashier still gets paid.

So why is an athlete getting paid attached to the idea of how much the school makes?

Revenue producers typically get paid in the free market. That being said....given the academic environment I don't think analogies and other arguments are necessary. "Fairness" is more important than education to these pin heads.

The chances of them allowing male athletes to get paid while the female athletes do not are proportional to winning Powerball....twice. It just wouldn't happen.

It should happen in theory, but there is no way in hades to make it work.

 

[UGADawg4Life]

They make it possible; they assume all the risks; everyone else gets rich. They should be paid.

I got a scholarship package that effectively paid me to go to UT. Eric Berry couldn't get a dime extra. It's obscene.

Universities of higher education were created just for that, education. Somewhere along the line sports were brought into the mix as extra-curricular activities. Now however, at schools like Alabama, the school IS the football program and vice-versa. Don't believe me, then compare the FBHC's salary to the university president's. The tail's now wagging the dog. And we're bringing in many, many uneducated gladiators to perform in our arenas and we're justifying it in the name of "student-athletics". While many of these gladiators can't speak the Queen's English. We're providing full rides to "kids", most of whom haven't done the work in the classroom to deserve academic scholarships, worth $100,000 or more, in a lot of cases. All of this while denying other kids, who have academic prowess, admission to the schools (there are kids with 4.0's who can't get into UGA) So these individuals are getting paid. And getting paid well for what they have to offer. Which is the ability to run fast or jump high, etc. The NFL needs a minor league system, like baseball, so that we can return student-athletics to student-athletes. Let the pros pay the pros. The college football product would be just as exciting, but without the dreads, the broken English, the felony arrests, etc. JMHO.

 

[UGADawg4Life]

You know following the argument, I see a flaw in the reasoning here on principle.

Players should be paid because they make the school millions. That's the argument. So, whether or not they should be paid is attached to the notion of how much the school makes.

Yet, no one would suggest that a cashier not get paid if the store did not make millions. The owner could not be making enough money from the store to pay himself and the cashier still gets paid.

So why is an athlete getting paid attached to the idea of how much the school makes?

Great post.

 

[Lexvol]

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Universities of higher education were created just for that, education. Somewhere along the line sports were brought into the mix as extra-curricular activities. Now however, at schools like Alabama, the school IS the football program and vice-versa. Don't believe me, then compare the FBHC's salary to the university president's. The tail's now wagging the dog. And we're bringing in many, many uneducated gladiators to perform in our arenas and we're justifying it in the name of "student-athletics". While many of these gladiators can't speak the Queen's English. We're providing full rides to "kids", most of whom haven't done the work in the classroom to deserve academic scholarships, worth $100,000 or more, in a lot of cases. All of this while denying other kids, who have academic prowess, admission to the schools (there are kids with 4.0's who can't get into UGA) So these individuals are getting paid. And getting paid well for what they have to offer. Which is the ability to run fast or jump high, etc. The NFL needs a minor league system, like baseball, so that we can return student-athletics to student-athletes. Let the pros pay the pros. The college football product would be just as exciting, but without the dreads, the broken English, the felony arrests, etc. JMHO.

There are two sides to the academic argument. UT was a land grant institution. To me it seems like kid with a B average and average test scores should have access to the state institution. It feels like we are losing sight of some of the access in the academic competition between schools.

A "club" system would still be more appropriate rather than letting some of these guys into to college (especially if they are reading at a 3rd grade level). It is ridiculous that some of these players make it into school while other kids in the home state are denied.

 

[99gator]

There are two sides to the academic argument. UT was a land grant institution. To me it seems like kid with a B average and average test scores should have access to the state institution. It feels like we are losing sight of some of the access in the academic competition between schools.

A "club" system would still be more appropriate rather than letting some of these guys into to college (especially if they are reading at a 3rd grade level). It is ridiculous that some of these players make it into school while other kids in the home state are denied.

I believe in the club idea as well.

Don't know exactly how it works, but what Canada does with hockey and Europe with soccer

 

[tenmanjonez]

You know following the argument, I see a flaw in the reasoning here on principle.

Players should be paid because they make the school millions. That's the argument. So, whether or not they should be paid is attached to the notion of how much the school makes.

Yet, no one would suggest that a cashier not get paid if the store did not make millions. The owner could not be making enough money from the store to pay himself and the cashier still gets paid.

So why is an athlete getting paid attached to the idea of how much the school makes?

Apples and oranges. No one goes to a grocery to see a cashier's sick scanning skills. The cashier doesn't really MAKE the store any money in the way that a college athlete makes a school money. The college athlete directly brings in revenue, the cashier just collects it.