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saying they'd be happy with a 6-6 season or something similar. How could anyone be satisfied with losing every single game of consequence? How long have yall been fans? We are still ut! Just because we had a short coaching stint by a pathological liar, followed by a pathological azz hole doesn't undo all the history we had prior to their tenures. Many of our opponets this year have major question marks. We COULD win against uga, uf, usc, mizzou, ou. We SHOULD win all the others. The only team that is far superior to us at this point is bama. And even they aren't as dominate as in years past (who was picking AU to beat them last year at this time). I would be happy with no less than 8 wins. Anything less will be a dissapointment! A year from now we should be happy with no less than challenging for the sec east.
 
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He called being objective based on facts.. We all want to win every game, maybe a surpise or 2. try decaf
 
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UT has not been to a bowl game since 2010 and hasn't won a bowl game since 2007. I would say that just getting back to a bowl game and potentially winning one would be a good reason to be satisfied.

You have to crawl before you can walk and this program has been in a wheelchair since 2008.
 
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Who would have ever thought we would be celebrating a win over S. Carolina like we did last year? Just ready to get back to our normal place, on top looking down. Let's get some wins and they will come.
 
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chattavol420 said:
saying they'd be happy with a 6-6 season or something similar. How could anyone be satisfied with losing every single game of consequence? How long have yall been fans? We are still ut! Just because we had a short coaching stint by a pathological liar, followed by a pathological azz hole doesn't undo all the history we had prior to their tenures. Many of our opponets this year have major question marks. We COULD win against uga, uf, usc, mizzou, ou. We SHOULD win all the others. The only team that is far superior to us at this point is bama. And even they aren't as dominate as in years past (who was picking AU to beat them last year at this time). I would be happy with no less than 8 wins. Anything less will be a dissapointment! A year removed from now we should be happy with no less than challenging for the sec east.
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I just don't understand how you can look at this roster objectively and expect 8 wins. We are super young in the best conference in America. Yes we have talent and yes we are still Tennessee but you have to give the rebuild some time. Next year, 8 wins is the floor.
 
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Jnunn said:
I just don't understand how you can look at this roster objectively and expect 8 wins. We are super young in the best conference in America. Yes we have talent and yes we are still Tennessee but you have to give the rebuild some time. Next year, 8 wins is the floor.
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I agree to an extent. I don't think we should have an expectation of going to the seccg this year but...We should be a better team this year than last. We've been close is recent years. Last year we could have beaten uga and Uf. There's no reason this year we can't improve by a couple of games
 
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Let me put in in Project Management terms that are more agreeable:

Threshold: 6 wins
Objective: 10 wins

Every true Volunteer Fan's goal we believe can somehow happen: 15 wins

...Yes, I'm sayin there's a chance!
 
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chattavol420 said:
I agree to an extent. I don't think we should have an expectation of going to the seccg this year but...We should be a better team this year than last. We've been close is recent years. Last year we could have beaten uga and Uf. There's no reason this year we can't improve by a couple of games
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I do agree that we will be a better team but that doesn't necessarily translate to the W-L record. Unfortunately we have a brutal schedule. So while we can be better we can still easily lose 6 games. I think we see a much more athletic team that ends up better than last year but still only ekes out 6-7 wins.
 
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jeffmcflurry27 said:
UT has not been to a bowl game since 2010 and hasn't won a bowl game since 2007. I would say that just getting back to a bowl game and potentially winning one would be a good reason to be satisfied.

You have to crawl before you can walk and this program has been in a wheelchair since 2008.
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Well said. If the young guys jump the learning curve we might get there a year early.
 
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jeffmcflurry27 said:
UT has not been to a bowl game since 2010 and hasn't won a bowl game since 2007. I would say that just getting back to a bowl game and potentially winning one would be a good reason to be satisfied.

You have to crawl before you can walk and this program has been in a wheelchair since 2008.
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Actually the program was bedridden.
 
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I get what you talking about. But our downfall started with Fulmer and his last years. That's about the time when Miles, Saban, Meyer, Rict came into the league. And old Spurrier came back to S Carolina. The worst part was after we fired Fulmer was the hiring of Kiffin and then Dooley. ( thank Mike Hamilton) You just do not fix this in a year. Butch Jones knows what he is doing he will get us back at the top of the SEC. And if we are at the top of the SEC we will be in the running for a National Championship. You will see. Its funny it took Saban a little while to build Alabama where they are now. But if your are a Tennessee fan the head coach is suppose to do it in a year.
 
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chattavol420 said:
saying they'd be happy with a 6-6 season or something similar. How could anyone be satisfied with losing every single game of consequence? How long have yall been fans? We are still ut! Just because we had a short coaching stint by a pathological liar, followed by a pathological azz hole doesn't undo all the history we had prior to their tenures. Many of our opponets this year have major question marks. We COULD win against uga, uf, usc, mizzou, ou. We SHOULD win all the others. The only team that is far superior to us at this point is bama. And even they aren't as dominate as in years past (who was picking AU to beat them last year at this time). I would be happy with no less than 8 wins. Anything less will be a dissapointment! A year removed from now we should be happy with no less than challenging for the sec east.
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How is the weather there in Colorado?
 
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chattavol420 said:
saying they'd be happy with a 6-6 season or something similar. How could anyone be satisfied with losing every single game of consequence? How long have yall been fans? We are still ut! Just because we had a short coaching stint by a pathological liar, followed by a pathological azz hole doesn't undo all the history we had prior to their tenures. Many of our opponets this year have major question marks. We COULD win against uga, uf, usc, mizzou, ou. We SHOULD win all the others. The only team that is far superior to us at this point is bama. And even they aren't as dominate as in years past (who was picking AU to beat them last year at this time). I would be happy with no less than 8 wins. Anything less will be a dissapointment! A year removed from now we should be happy with no less than challenging for the sec east.
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Your frustration is noted. Your logic isn't.

I would like to see us go undefeated and win the national championship...how logical is that?

GO VOLS!
 
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I would be happy to be 6-6 with the 2nd toughest schedule in America and the youngest team in the SEC, which is the hardest conference. I would be happy going 6-6 after 4 consecutive losing seasons. I would be happy with 6-6 when we have to completely replace both lines (not sure it has ever happened in the SEC before) and when we have AT BEST average QB play and average coordinators.

So yeah, screw me, right? 6-6 with a bowl game and a chance to be 7-6 would be a big improvement over the crap I have had to endure the last few years.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to win 8 and it sucks how far we have fallen, but I am not setting any standards of 8 wins until next year.
 
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chattavol420 said:
saying they'd be happy with a 6-6 season or something similar. How could anyone be satisfied with losing every single game of consequence? How long have yall been fans? We are still ut! Just because we had a short coaching stint by a pathological liar, followed by a pathological azz hole doesn't undo all the history we had prior to their tenures. Many of our opponets this year have major question marks. We COULD win against uga, uf, usc, mizzou, ou. We SHOULD win all the others. The only team that is far superior to us at this point is bama. And even they aren't as dominate as in years past (who was picking AU to beat them last year at this time). I would be happy with no less than 8 wins. Anything less will be a dissapointment! A year removed from now we should be happy with no less than challenging for the sec east.
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Realistic expectations!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is realistic for us, with the fact that so many freshmen will be playing at key positions and our depth has no real experience and the strenght of our schedule, to win 6 or maybe 7 games. Six games is realistic. To win the 7th game, we would have to have a little help.
Maybe the team we play has a key player out due to injury or that team makes a critical mistake along the way. and we win the 7th game.
So, to beat either UGA, USC or Florida and get our 7th (regular season win), we will need help.
 
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chattavol420 said:
saying they'd be happy with a 6-6 season or something similar. How could anyone be satisfied with losing every single game of consequence? How long have yall been fans? We are still ut! Just because we had a short coaching stint by a pathological liar, followed by a pathological azz hole doesn't undo all the history we had prior to their tenures. Many of our opponets this year have major question marks. We COULD win against uga, uf, usc, mizzou, ou. We SHOULD win all the others. The only team that is far superior to us at this point is bama. And even they aren't as dominate as in years past (who was picking AU to beat them last year at this time). I would be happy with no less than 8 wins. Anything less will be a dissapointment! A year removed from now we should be happy with no less than challenging for the sec east.
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This is a fine example of thinking with emotion. Of course we all want UT to win all its games, but it is not practical. An emotional thinker tends to want consequence for a season that is expected for a program that is still recovering from a decade of terrible decisions. For instance an emotional thinker may say that coach jones should be fired after going a reasonable 5-7 or 6-6 this season. An objective thinker typically thinks logically, realistically, and reasonably. Typically objective thinkers would not call for the head of said coach if he has other things to offer to the program.

A list if you will...
-donors excited for the team again
-season tickets sales on the rise again
-a top ten recruiting class
-another projected top ten recruiting class
-respect for the program has returned
-players showing reasonable improvement
-players showing dedication to the program
-former legendary athletes showing enthusiasm for the coach
-former athletes allowed to attend practice/mentor current athletes
-behavior/conduct of athletes have improved
-etc

Taking these things into consideration, an objective thinker may be able to look past a slightly disappointing 5-7 season for the second season of said coach's tenure.

Thoughts?
 
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chattavol420 said:
saying they'd be happy with a 6-6 season or something similar. How could anyone be satisfied with losing every single game of consequence? How long have yall been fans? We are still ut! Just because we had a short coaching stint by a pathological liar, followed by a pathological azz hole doesn't undo all the history we had prior to their tenures. Many of our opponets this year have major question marks. We COULD win against uga, uf, usc, mizzou, ou. We SHOULD win all the others. The only team that is far superior to us at this point is bama. And even they aren't as dominate as in years past (who was picking AU to beat them last year at this time). I would be happy with no less than 8 wins. Anything less will be a dissapointment! A year removed from now we should be happy with no less than challenging for the sec east.
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If cbj is a great coach we will know it in yr 2. All great coaches may huge strides in yr 2. 8 or 9 wins

If he is avg I believe we will see 5 wins and then he is johnny majors 2.0. Will need yrs of great recruiting to overcome him being avg.

I say if he gets 7 wins that's nice progress and really what i hope hart has set for the target. Any less I'm afraid 8 or 9 wins is all we will see from this staff ever.
 
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If cbj is a great coach we will know it in yr 2. All great coaches may huge strides in yr 2. 8 or 9 wins

If he is avg I believe we will see 5 wins and then he is johnny majors 2.0. Will need yrs of great recruiting to overcome him being avg.

I say if he gets 7 wins that's nice progress and really what i hope hart has set for the target. Any less I'm afraid 8 or 9 wins is all we will see from this staff ever.
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How can you know this? How could you make this prediction based on the second season? Because all the good coaches have great second seasons?
 
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