Single elimination normal for SEC semi/final?

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My VOLS are huge said:
Here is another question on the subject. Why in the world is the #1 seeded team playing late games? quarters and semis should have the #1 team play first giving you more rest for the next game. Should be more incentive for being there than what they are getting.
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Crowd size and TV ratings. More people want to watch #1 Tennessee rather than some other lower seeded team.
 
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When Oklahoma and Texas join up, I hope they just go to a 16-team, single elimination format.

Or, if they want to continue with the double-elimination format, then the bottom 8 teams should play a single-elimination round on Wednesday (4 games) to get to 12 teams like the current format is set up. No reason to not involve every team from your conference.

I also think the highest seed should always be the home team. Tennessee having to bat first in both the semis and the finals is ridiculous. I'd feel the same if we had been the lower seed who benefited from that dumb rule, too.
 
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cncchris33 said:
When Oklahoma and Texas join up, I hope they just go to a 16-team, single elimination format.

Or, if they want to continue with the double-elimination format, then the bottom 8 teams should play a single-elimination round on Wednesday (4 games) to get to 12 teams like the current format is set up. No reason to not involve every team from your conference.

I also think the highest seed should always be the home team. Tennessee having to bat first in both the semis and the finals is ridiculous. I'd feel the same if we had been the lower seed who benefited from that dumb rule, too.
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Like that second idea on tourney format. The home away thing doesn’t bother me that much. It is a neutral site, and an invitational tournament.
 
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cncchris33 said:
When Oklahoma and Texas join up, I hope they just go to a 16-team, single elimination format.

Or, if they want to continue with the double-elimination format, then the bottom 8 teams should play a single-elimination round on Wednesday (4 games) to get to 12 teams like the current format is set up. No reason to not involve every team from your conference.

I also think the highest seed should always be the home team. Tennessee having to bat first in both the semis and the finals is ridiculous. I'd feel the same if we had been the lower seed who benefited from that dumb rule, too.
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When the two new ones join, it might be a good opportunity to once again have two tournaments - an east and a west, each with 8 teams. Each tournament could play an Omaha format, and the best teams for the Omaha format would emerge to go on to Omaha. We would essentially be guaranteed two SEC teams in Omaha at minimum.

I agree with you about home team being the highest seed. There should be some benefits to being higher seeded, unlike what we saw in Hoover this weekend.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Crowd size and TV ratings. More people want to watch #1 Tennessee rather than some other lower seeded team.
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Weather gave our West coast Vol fans the watching advantage this go round...only our truly hard-core East coast Vol fans were up watching. I am still tired.
 
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WillisWG said:
My understanding is the SEC uses the CWS format, however looking through the SEC/CWS rules I could not find it. Apparently, this format was put in place back when the CWS was a double elimination tournament to help manage pitching and tie breaker advantages.

A true double elimination is a test of endurance for pitching. If you are the visiting team in a tournament you use a pitcher all but one inning, home team uses a pitcher in every inning. I agreed it checks the pitching advantage as a team get deeper into a tournament.

Tie-breakers were based on run scored, runs allowed and runs differential, as home team your scoring opportunities are reduced. Again I agree this checks any tie-breaker advantage.


Step 1: The team has been the home team fewer times during the tournament becomes the home team.

Step 2: If both teams were the home team the same number of times, count the number of times each team was the visiting team during the tournament. The team that was the visiting team more often during the tournament becomes the home team.

Step 3: If both teams were the home team and visiting team the same number of times and the teams met previously during the tournament, the visitor in the immediately preceding game between the two teams becomes the home team.

Step 4: If both teams were the home team and visiting team the same number of times and the teams did not previously meet during the tournament, the team that was the visitor in its most recent, preceding game becomes the home team.

Step 5: If both teams were the home team and visiting team the same number of times, the teams did not previously meet during the tournament, and both teams were the visitor (or home team) in their most recent, preceding game, then the home team is decided by a coin flip.

Great rules for double elimination tournaments with tie-breakers, but not the type of tournament the SEC runs.
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Thanks, I appreciate the update and info
 
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