Situation around Dave Hart leaving FL State

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thevorlon said:
Does anyone have a scoop on his leaving Florida State? I think I read on this board he was fired but I can't find anything online explaining why or anything.

Just starting to wonder why we have so many non Tennessee guys running our university....
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Sad and useless.
 
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dlw4n said:
Let's put this to bed once and for all. Let's just look at the alma mater's of the current AP top 25 head coaches.

1. ND - Kelly - Asumption
2. Bama - Saban - Kent St.
3. Florida - Muschamp - Georgia
4. Oregon - Kelly - U of New Hampshire
5. Kansas State - Snyder - Mizzou
6. Stanford - Shaw - Stanford
7. UGA - Richt - Miami
8. LSU - Miles - Michigan
9. A&M - Sumlin - Purdue
10. South Carolina - Spurrier - Florida
11. Oklahoma - Stoops - Iowa
12. FSU - Fisher - Salem/Samford
13. Oregon St. - Riley - Alabama
14. Clemson - Swinney - Alabama
15. Northern Illinois - Carey - Indiana
16. Nebraska - Pelini - Ohio St.
17. UCLA - Mora Jr. - Washington
18. Michigan - Hoke - Ball State
19. Boise St - Peterson - UC Davis
20. Northwestern - Fitzgerald - Northwestern
21. Louisville - Strong - Central Arkansas
22. Utah State - Anderson - Utah
23. Texas - Brown - Vandy/FSU
24. San Jose St. - MacIntyre - Vandy/GT
25. Kent St - Hazell - Muskingum.
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Yeah, but what about Gruden's wife? How many of the 25 had wives that went to those schools? That is the most important determinant. Maybe Brady Hoke's wife was a Michigan cheerleader.
 
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thevorlon said:
Just starting to wonder why we have so many non Tennessee guys running our university....
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We should really just run the AD by taking VN polls.

I love departments "run by committee".
Actually, when you look at the architecture around UT's campus, it looks like it was by committee as well.
 
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Hart was in a war with T.K. Weatherall who played football for Bobby Bowden. T.K. wanted to give Bowden one more year thus the coach in waiting label when they brought in Fisher. Hart left and T.K. retired the next year. It was a mess created by all parties. Bowden had lost it, Fisher was clamoring for the job, Hart wanted Bowden to retire and T.K. retired the next year because of health reasons.
 
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DWright39 said:
Im not thrilled with a Bama guy at UT but these are businessmen first and foremost. If they put school ties ahead of business in their life they would never get to the level of being an AD.
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Our present AD was canned/demoted from being an AD. He was working as an assistant AD when somebody decided UT apparently has never produced anyone that is qualified to run a major college athletic department program as AD. <smfh> A guy that couldn't cut it elsewhere, we hire. For fb HC we may as well offer Charlie Weis using the same logic.
 
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Remy said:
Our present AD was canned/demoted from being an AD. He was working as an assistant AD when somebody decided UT apparently has never produced anyone that is qualified to run a major college athletic department program as AD. <smfh> A guy that couldn't cut it elsewhere, we hire. For fb HC we may as well offer Charlie Weis using the same logic.
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Wasn't Hamilton promoted from AD staff?
 
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It is a combination of several things.

TK Wetherell was a former football player and butted heads with Hart, so Hart's contract wasn't renewed despite success in almost every hire at FSU. TK then went out and got a puppet AD from the Air Force Academy(Spetman). FSU's AD makes 350k per year and got a 1 year contract extension, so that tells you how much power he has. Many boosters would love to have a strong AD again that can handle all of these realignment shenanigans...
 
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gator haters said:
I heard from my cousins ex wife who was 3rd cousins with a guy who owned a dog named spot, that was purchased from a guy who wore a Florida st hat and he said. Hart told all the little kids in Florida Santa was not real, that he was the tooth fairy. So take it for what it's worth......... But seriously can we stop all the stupid **** about firing hart and how bad he is and how dare he not get gruden. He is out interviewing quality coaches and if and when he talks Fisher or Tressel or another coach into coming be thankful. Until we interview the Wyoming or the Akron coach then you can start to worry.[/Q vERY GOOD STUFF
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UTChicagoV said:
Seriously. Apparently only Tennessee alumni should coach our teams and run our university. :crazy:
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So...We shouldn't take credit on Doug Dickey's success here...wonder where the T's came from on the helmets???Guess who....
 
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Remy said:
Our present AD was canned/demoted from being an AD. He was working as an assistant AD when somebody decided UT apparently has never produced anyone that is qualified to run a major college athletic department program as AD. <smfh> A guy that couldn't cut it elsewhere, we hire. For fb HC we may as well offer Charlie Weis using the same logic.
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Funny how posters make things so cut and dry without using facts in their assessments.
 
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Athletic Director alma maters in top 25:

1. ND - Swarbrick - ND
2. Bama - Moore - Bama
3. Florida - Foley – Hobart/Ohio
4. Oregon - Mullens – West Virginia
5. Kansas State - Currie – Wake Forest/Tennessee
6. Stanford - Muir – Brown/Ohio
7. UGA - McGarity - UGA
8. LSU - Alleva - Lehigh
9. A&M - Hyman – UNC/Furman
10. South Carolina - Tanner – NC St.
11. Oklahoma - Castiglione - Maryland
12. FSU - Spetman – National War College/Central MI
13. Oregon St. – de Carolis – Bloomsburg St/UMass
14. Clemson - Radakovich – IUPUI/Miami
15. Northern Illinois - Compher – James Madison/Shippensburg
16. Nebraska - Eichorst – Wisconsin-Whitewater/Marquette
17. UCLA - Guerrero - UCLA
18. Michigan - Brandon - Michigan
19. Boise St - Coyle – Drake/FSU
20. Northwestern - Phillips – Illinois/ASU/Tennessee
21. Louisville - Jurich – Northern AZ
22. Utah State - Barnes – Cal St.
23. Texas - Dodds – Kansas St
24. San Jose St. - Bleymaier – UCLA/Loyola
25. Kent St - Nielsen – MN St.
 
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fangsout said:
It is a combination of several things.

TK Wetherell was a former football player and butted heads with Hart, so Hart's contract wasn't renewed despite success in almost every hire at FSU. TK then went out and got a puppet AD from the Air Force Academy(Spetman). FSU's AD makes 350k per year and got a 1 year contract extension, so that tells you how much power he has. Many boosters would love to have a strong AD again that can handle all of these realignment shenanigans...
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Huh? He hardly made any significant hires at FSU. The football and baseball coaches were inherited and never changed. He hired Steve Robinson as basketball coach, who was a bad hire and couldn't win or recruit. Next he hired Leonard Hamilton, who was a good hire, but took a really long time to get the program back in shape.

Also, you should probably google the Jeff Bowden debacle. Obviously, it was Bobby Bowden who pushed that one through, but Hart let it go and it was a disaster, and it took the boosters finally stepping in to resolve it.
 
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oregonvol said:
Huh? He hardly made any significant hires at FSU. The football and baseball coaches were inherited and never changed. He hired Steve Robinson as basketball coach, who was a bad hire and couldn't win or recruit. Next he hired Leonard Hamilton, who was a good hire, but took a really long time to get the program back in shape.

Also, you should probably google the Jeff Bowden debacle. Obviously, it was Bobby Bowden who pushed that one through, but Hart let it go and it was a disaster, and it took the boosters finally stepping in to resolve it.
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You really think Hart had any say in who Bowden brought in?
 
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thevorlon said:
Does anyone have a scoop on his leaving Florida State? I think I read on this board he was fired but I can't find anything online explaining why or anything.

Just starting to wonder why we have so many non Tennessee guys running our university....
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they figured out that hart is a football idiot and sent him packing.
 
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Pro said:
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Whoa!!!! He threw that beary far!
 
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