Small - Shoulder surgery

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VolsFan-TX said:
I had that surgery (torn labrum and torn rotator cuff) 10 weeks ago. Just finished my formal PT this week. Still do not have full motion, but should be able to continue to improve on my own. Prayers for Small!
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As a Physical Therapist for 35 years, 10 weeks of formal Pt is normal. I'm sure you are well prepared for a home therapy program if your therapist did his job educating you. Keep that program up and you'll become a Cy Young award pitcher in no time.
 
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Benjh1028 said:
Having had surgery for labrum/rotator cuff on both shoulders and total knee reconstruction including torn ACL, I can attest that shoulder surgery is much more difficult ordeal. Medically a torn ACL may be a tougher condition, but the recovery from shoulder surgery is a nightmare.
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I agree! I have had labrum surgery and knee surgery also. I would take 10 knee surgeries to one labrum surgery!!!
You also have to remember the shoulder joint is a joint that moves in every direction. The knee only moves forwards and backwards. That is the reason they say a shoulder replacement is much harder than a knee replacement.
He is young, i hope he heals fast and completely!!!
 
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VolsFan-TX said:
I had that surgery (torn labrum and torn rotator cuff) 10 weeks ago. Just finished my formal PT this week. Still do not have full motion, but should be able to continue to improve on my own. Prayers for Small!
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How’s your 40 time? 😂😂😂
 
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Manning Up said:
As a Physical Therapist for 35 years, 10 weeks of formal Pt is normal. I'm sure you are well prepared for a home therapy program if your therapist did his job educating you. Keep that program up and you'll become a Cy Young award pitcher in no time.
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I just want to be able to put my belt on after I put
my pants on. I cannot reach as far with my left arm still, but it is much better than before.
 
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VolsFan-TX said:
I had that surgery (torn labrum and torn rotator cuff) 10 weeks ago. Just finished my formal PT this week. Still do not have full motion, but should be able to continue to improve on my own. Prayers for Small!
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I tore my rotator in 2008, along with tearing my bicep. My surgery was in September that year. I went to physical therapy 3 days a week, did pt at home on the other 4 days. It took 12 weeks before I was cleared to go back to work. I still didn't have my full ROM, that took several more months to come around. Excruciating pain during pt. Never want to go through that again.
 
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Manning Up said:
As a Physical Therapist for 35 years, 10 weeks of formal Pt is normal. I'm sure you are well prepared for a home therapy program if your therapist did his job educating you. Keep that program up and you'll become a Cy Young award pitcher in no time.
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I owe huge thanks to the PT team. No doubt my recovery was quicker with better results because of their expertise. Plus, I’m a lazy bastard who couldn’t be trusted to do the home therapy (drinking beer is much more enjoyable) so just providing accountability was huge.
 
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bigorangepoppa said:
I tore my rotator in 2008, along with tearing my bicep. My surgery was in September that year. I went to physical therapy 3 days a week, did pt at home on the other 4 days. It took 12 weeks before I was cleared to go back to work. I still didn't have my full ROM, that took several more months to come around. Excruciating pain during pt. Never want to go through that again.
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I don’t either
 
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bigorangepoppa said:
I tore my rotator in 2008, along with tearing my bicep. My surgery was in September that year. I went to physical therapy 3 days a week, did pt at home on the other 4 days. It took 12 weeks before I was cleared to go back to work. I still didn't have my full ROM, that took several more months to come around. Excruciating pain during pt. Never want to go through that again.
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I had rotator cuff surgery in 2016 when I was 78 years old. After surgery, I talked with my surgeon and told him I had been told about the pain I could expect during rehab. He look me in my eyes and said I should not have ant pain. I started rebab 2 weeks after surgery and never had any pain. I was swing a golf club 4 weeks after surgery and was playing golf less than 6 months with no pain. Two years later I had my first hole in 1 anthe the next Spring, I holed 4 shots from the fairway for eagles. I also shot my age that year. The point is, rotator cuff surgery is not always followed by a lot of pain. I also believe that the experience of the surgeon affects the amount of pain one suffers.
 
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VolsFan-TX said:
I had that surgery (torn labrum and torn rotator cuff) 10 weeks ago. Just finished my formal PT this week. Still do not have full motion, but should be able to continue to improve on my own. Prayers for Small!
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It sucked balls didn’t it? I had the same surgery 2 years ago.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
I had rotator cuff surgery in 2016 when I was 78 years old. After surgery, I talked with my surgeon and told him I had been told about the pain I could expect during rehab. He look me in my eyes and said I should not have ant pain. I started rebab 2 weeks after surgery and never had any pain. I was swing a golf club 4 weeks after surgery and was playing golf less than 6 months with no pain. Two years later I had my first hole in 1 anthe the next Spring, I holed 4 shots from the fairway for eagles. I also shot my age that year. The point is, rotator cuff surgery is not always followed by a lot of pain. I also believe that the experience of the surgeon affects the amount of pain one suffers.
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I’m going to attribute the four eagles from the fairway to “aiming fluid”! 😁. Seriously, that’s some darn good golf. Glad you had a nice recovery. Keep swinging.
 
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Vol737 said:
I’m going to attribute the four eagles from the fairway to “aiming fluid”! 😁. Seriously, that’s some darn good golf. Glad you had a nice recovery. Keep swinging.
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I attribute it to pure luck. For some reason, it seemed like every shot I hit came off the club without any effort. Unfortunately, it only lasted for about three months. I should have made a trip or two to Las Vegas during that time.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
I had rotator cuff surgery in 2016 when I was 78 years old. After surgery, I talked with my surgeon and told him I had been told about the pain I could expect during rehab. He look me in my eyes and said I should not have ant pain. I started rebab 2 weeks after surgery and never had any pain. I was swing a golf club 4 weeks after surgery and was playing golf less than 6 months with no pain. Two years later I had my first hole in 1 anthe the next Spring, I holed 4 shots from the fairway for eagles. I also shot my age that year. The point is, rotator cuff surgery is not always followed by a lot of pain. I also believe that the experience of the surgeon affects the amount of pain one suffers.
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I had surgery on a Tuesday and my first pt was the Friday of the same week. My surgeon was one of the doctors at KOC. I had more damage than you I suspect. Rotator tear, bicep tear, had to have anchors put in my bone for the tendon that goes across the shoulder.
 
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bigorangepoppa said:
I had surgery on a Tuesday and my first pt was the Friday of the same week. My surgeon was one of the doctors at KOC. I had more damage than you I suspect. Rotator tear, bicep tear, had to have anchors put in my bone for the tendon that goes across the shoulder.
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My surgeon was also at KOC. I did a lot of research and he turned out to be the highest rated one n the South. My brother-in-law, who is a physician also talked to his buddies and they came up with the same one. If I had to do it again, KOC is where I would go.
 
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I used KOC as well and my Dr has been amazing. The therapist at PW PT at Ft Sanders West is a beast. She knows how to make this 52 year old man cry. lol. Almost 6 weeks out. I have lost the abductor pillow and I hope that after Dr. visit next Tuesday I can loose the sling. I have to have other shoulder done but that will be delayed for a few years. This one is rough enough. Good luck to anyone who had to have this surgery.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
I had rotator cuff surgery in 2016 when I was 78 years old. After surgery, I talked with my surgeon and told him I had been told about the pain I could expect during rehab. He look me in my eyes and said I should not have ant pain. I started rebab 2 weeks after surgery and never had any pain. I was swing a golf club 4 weeks after surgery and was playing golf less than 6 months with no pain. Two years later I had my first hole in 1 anthe the next Spring, I holed 4 shots from the fairway for eagles. I also shot my age that year. The point is, rotator cuff surgery is not always followed by a lot of pain. I also believe that the experience of the surgeon affects the amount of pain one suffers.
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Seriously that is amazing and great! Congrats!
But, rotator cuff surgery is different than labrum surgery. The labrum hold the ball joint of the shoulder in place.
 
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walkenvol said:
I know several folks / athletes who have had shoulder surgery and none of them were ever fully recovered unlike ACL surgery which seems to have a good success rate. Small is tough and will get the best recap possible. Hoping he has a complete recovery!
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Not just surgery, but injuries in general. I tore a rotator cuff a long time ago and even with rehab and continues shoulder exercises it likes to a pain in the a$$ on occasion.

Then again, I'm in my 40's..pretty sure that has something to do with it too..
 
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Tennman47 said:
I had this surgery at 58. Each person is different. I had no problems and did my own PT. The therapist exercises were lame. He should be fine.
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I liked the each person is different 😂 very true.. we are supposed to set guidelines on recovery times, care plans, etc.. but with ortho surgery, you just don’t know… he’s young, hopefully a speedy recovery
 
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BruisedOrange said:
I think Small's contributions to this team are underappreciated by fans. His stats don't begin to tell the true story.

We all probably appreciate that he comes in to get the "tough" yardage, and it appears that our faster backs become far more effective after the defense has spent a quarter or two tackling Small.

But also, did y'all notice how many times during the Orange Bowl our coaches were willing to substitute Small into the game on obvious passing downs, even though our substitution allowed Clemson to then substitute their freshest, choice defenders for that game situation?

Whether that is a testimony to Small's pass blocking, his football IQ, or his reaction time to developing plays, I don't know. But it is an enormous endorsement of his value to the team in those situations.

I'd love to hear someone with more Xs & Os knowledge expand on Small's unique contributions.
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You did a pretty good job of starting the basis of putting him in even though the offense loses the control of defensive substitutions.
Without being technical, Small and Wright both are very good at getting to the second level after contact. They run with great control of center of gravity. They each had breakout seasons this year. And Small is a reliable receiver.

I posted this in the Jaylen Wright thread with season RB stats:
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It seems to me Smalls is underrated by some Vols fans.
He is consistent, protects the ball, and doesn't get tackled for loss very much at all.
He is not elusive but he seems to break a good number of tackles that lead to big gains.
He and Wright both are the best backs we have had since John Kelly.

And Sampson is pushing them. We have a great stable of very talented backs.

Smalls 840 yds from scrimmage, 5yd avg, 15 TDs
Wright 883yds, 6yd avg, 10TDs
Sampson 421yds, 6.9yd avg, 6TDs
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Small averages 5 yds each time he touches the ball, and he is excellent in pass protection. His blocking and excellent fundamentals are why he is the starter and featured back.
How many times has he had a LB with their arms around him 2 yds past the line of scrimmage, then emerge at full speed running through a safety for big gains?
A lot. It happened regularly.
 
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Having had a slight separation and knowing people who've had shoulder surgery, the worst part can be sleep issues! Most people I know had to resort to sleeping in a recliner instead of their bed. When my shoulder used to hurt I would wake up in the middle of the night several times because I turned over on it and it hurt that much! That was for over a year! I had a PKR (partial knee replacement) 2 years ago and my sleep was only affected for the first few nights and I still got to sleep in my own bed. I didn't even spend one night in the hospital.
 
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rusty11 said:
Having had a slight separation and knowing people who've had shoulder surgery, the worst part can be sleep issues! Most people I know had to resort to sleeping in a recliner instead of their bed. When my shoulder used to hurt I would wake up in the middle of the night several times because I turned over on it and it hurt that much! That was for over a year! I had a PKR (partial knee replacement) 2 years ago and my sleep was only affected for the first few nights and I still got to sleep in my own bed. I didn't even spend one night in the hospital.
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After my surgery, I slept sitting up on the couch with my arm on a stack of pillows for the first week. When I started sleeping in the bed again, I put a couple of pillows under my elbow to support my arm. You won't be changing sleep positions for a while like that. I have a lot of sympathy for anyone who has had that surgery.
 
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There is no sleeping with this surgery to speak of. I am 6 weeks out since surgery since and I average about 3 hours and I have tried everything. We have an adjustable bed and it doesn’t help. Stacking pillows only causes more pain in my case. I have finally been able to lose the abductor pillow so hopefully once the sling is gone it gets better. This is a tough surgery. Good luck to any who have to have this surgery.
 
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