Smh.

#27
#27
photovol said:
I'll always be a Vol fan...but it seems the University of Tennessee has now written the book on the destruction of a once proud football program....the way things are progressing we can't expect to win any championships this decade.....reality sucks
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Check bammer pre Saban. It wasn't pretty.
 
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#28
VolMaster14 said:
Don't kid yourself that your superior talent is well coached. Muschamp hasn't proven sh*t as far as coaching goes. And I don't care who the HC is, its not hard to recruit to Florida.
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You do realize that he isn't even talking about Florida, right? As a general philosophy, it is better to have better talents on your team with better coaches than to have the same coaches with less talent.
 
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#29
92volalum said:
Again trying to justify not getting it done. U can skew any data but the bottom line is better talent wins more often than lesser talent..

Bj boy has next year to prove ur theory but if he fails then u will say he needs more time to get his players.l
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Lol. No. I didn't support dooley after his second year. We are still dealing with dooleys sh!t.
 
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I predicted in writing on a post after CBJ was hired; that if we had an average recruiting class this thread would show up.
 
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King Webbsticles said:
You do realize that he isn't even talking about Florida, right? As a general philosophy, it is better to have better talents on your team with better coaches than to have the same coaches with less talent.
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I'll take superior talent all day long! And yea, he was pretty much talking about Florida.
 
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99gator said:
any game.

what if most of your competition is coached well and has better players?
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If I told you I agree with your assessment and will be significantly cutting back on spending money to drive 8 hours to Knoxville or attend away games, would you be happier?

I went to five games last year, and the closest one for me was Jacksonville to Columbia. How many Gator games did you make it to?
I'll probably go to just one game next year. I hope CBJ makes me look foolish for skipping out on trips to Oregon and Gainesville. Gainesville is close, but September day games in that place are a nasty experience, and it's worse when we're getting creamed.
 
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#36
How do people on here purpose we get the better talent?

You don't go out after 5 years of crap seasons and just tell all the five stars to come to your school. Tennessee football has been irrelevant for longer than any of us want to admit and in my eyes what Butch Jones and staff did in a short time after the previous coaches all but quit recruiting midway through the season is pretty good.

What you do is have a top 20 class have a winning record with some high profile wins and win your bowl game. Then the next year have a top 15 or 10 class win more games, more high profile games and win your bowl game. It's called rebuilding.

Excellent job by Butch and staff imo. You had us in the hunt for some big names. Now go win us some games this year and prove these negas wrong!!!

GBO!
 
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ProfessorD said:
How do people on here purpose we get the better talent?

You don't go out after 5 years of crap seasons and just tell all the five stars to come to your school. Tennessee football has been irrelevant for longer than any of us want to admit and in my eyes what Butch Jones and staff did in a short time after the previous coaches all but quit recruiting midway through the season is pretty good.

What you do is have a top 20 class have a winning record with some high profile wins and win your bowl game. Then the next year have a top 15 or 10 class win more games, more high profile games and win your bowl game. It's called rebuilding.

Excellent job by Butch and staff imo. You had us in the hunt for some big names. Now go win us some games this year and prove these negas wrong!!!

GBO!
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So what happens if we don't have a winning record or win/go to a bowl game?

You're saying I will feel like this next year too.:unsure:
 
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ukvols said:
If I told you I agree with your assessment and will be significantly cutting back on spending money to drive 8 hours to Knoxville or attend away games, would you be happier?

I went to five games last year, and the closest one for me was Jacksonville to Columbia. How many Gator games did you make it to?
I'll probably go to just one game next year. I hope CBJ makes me look foolish for skipping out on trips to Oregon and Gainesville. Gainesville is close, but September day games in that place are a nasty experience, and it's worse when we're getting creamed.
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look, my basic point is something most don't want to accept.

this won't happen overnight. this won't happen in 3 years.

it's going to be a tough slog back and ramping up optimism at every turn only makes it harder on the current staff. because the expectations are not reasonable.

it's not meant to be a killjoy. but, too many people are stuck in a world where being tennessee means an automatic number of wins. that isn't there right now. pretending it is isn't being optimistic. it's a set up for disappointment and anger
 
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rocktopper16 said:
Alabama talent > Texas a&m talent
Alabama coaches > Texas a&m coaches.


Who won?
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Line those same teams up nine more times and how many do you think A&M would win?

UT came within a play of being LSU two years ago? Was LSU only a play better?

Making any sort of comparisons about a football PROGRAM based on one game is pretty useless.
 
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SaintLouisVol said:
Line those same teams up nine more times and how many do you think A&M would win?

UT came within a play of being LSU two years ago? Was LSU only a play better?

Making any sort of comparisons about a football PROGRAM based on one game is pretty useless.
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Could be, but aTm sure made hay in recruiting off that one win (plus a spectacular bowl win and good season). All is takes is one or two wins (by luck if needs be) and your team suddenly changes its trajectory from mediocre to pretty good.
 
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Ez_Vol said:
So what happens if we don't have a winning record or win/go to a bowl game?

You're saying I will feel like this next year too.:unsure:
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I'm saying people think this is the 90's and it aint. Bama went through this in the late 90's early 00's look where they are now. You can't rebuild a team in 2 months.
 
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99gator said:
look, my basic point is something most don't want to accept.

this won't happen overnight. this won't happen in 3 years.

it's going to be a tough slog back and ramping up optimism at every turn only makes it harder on the current staff. because the expectations are not reasonable.

it's not meant to be a killjoy. but, too many people are stuck in a world where being tennessee means an automatic number of wins. that isn't there right now. pretending it is isn't being optimistic. it's a set up for disappointment and anger
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I agree with everything you're saying.
I just don't care to hear it from a Gator; that's my point. It reminds me of the Gators and Bammers at lunch at the office here who kept saying we needed to be patient with Dooley and leave him alone. Two fan bases with an interest in our program never recovering giving us "friendly" advice.
 
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We compare ourselves to al, fl. Currently, they do not compare themselves to Ut. Gap is significant, it will get better but not this season
 
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