SMU Players Sitting Out Season

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Dudleys87 said:
And thats why they should have the choice to pull scholarships.
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There should definitely be some equity in signing numbers for teams that have transfers. I say let players have the freedom to transfer, but the school should get a spot back above the yearly limit. This is one reason we have so many players who can’t find a landing place. Schools are pinched on their max 25. So, they may lose 35 player with graduation and transfer but can only sign 25.
 
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Allvols1996 said:
There should definitely be some equity in signing numbers for teams that have transfers. I say let players have the freedom to transfer, but the school should get a spot back above the yearly limit. This is one reason we have so many players who can’t find a landing place. Schools are pinched on their max 25. So, they may lose 35 player with graduation and transfer but can only sign 25.
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Actually, a school that loses transfers can replace up to 7 with added scholarships each year. D-I Council waives initial counter limits in football
 
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hog88 said:
I get it but I also get the players point. They're goal (realistic or not) is to prepare for and get to the NFL so once they realize they aren't getting what they need at a school why not save eligibility and get ready to transfer? With all the $$ in college football now I find it hard to criticize players for looking out for themselves.
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It’s not even the NFL. Maybe, and I’m just spit balling, they want to play football. One of the WRs in the article has caught 2 passes in 4 games after, yep, SMU accepted a bunch of WRs from the portal. Mostly, it seems players are just bumping down the CFB hierarchy now so then can play.
 
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Allvols1996 said:
There should definitely be some equity in signing numbers for teams that have transfers. I say let players have the freedom to transfer, but the school should get a spot back above the yearly limit. This is one reason we have so many players who can’t find a landing place. Schools are pinched on their max 25. So, they may lose 35 player with graduation and transfer but can only sign 25.
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It should be a 1 for 1 but that of course would lead to the top schools running more players than they do now. There is no perfect solution.
 
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BUBear said:
Welcome to the new world of NIL:





No play, no pay should be part of NIL (including bowl games).
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Think carefully. If NIL is tied to the performance at a specific school, the players will be legally seen as employees. That's why the NCAA prohibits NIL from being tied to a school or to on field performance.

If you want to treat players as pay for play employees, prepare to pay them part of the big TV revenue the schools receive.

How does that sound?
 
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hog88 said:
I get it but I also get the players point. They're goal (realistic or not) is to prepare for and get to the NFL so once they realize they aren't getting what they need at a school why not save eligibility and get ready to transfer? With all the $$ in college football now I find it hard to criticize players for looking out for themselves.
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I respect their decision to sit out as well. But they shouldn’t get paid to do it.
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Right up there with "cancel culture".
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I was gonna say "millenials." They're 40 years old now and everybody thinks they still have braces and work at dairy queen.

As far as these players being black, and perhaps an argument that black people aren't welcome to/don't want to play for SMU, I certainly don't think any reasonable person would have believed that. I think it was just a dumb person making a dumb comment. It's very popular on the internet.
 
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WestTennesseeVol said:
I wonder why you never see this same energy when a coach leaves the players he recruited for a better job
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I realize you're just accusing everybody on earth of being a hypocrite, and it's meaningless, but I just wanted to point that you receive no points for this. It's totally misguided.

The truth is, people really hate it when the coach quits, and it's a huge deal. I have no defense for the kind of contracts that these coaches have, but it is true that for a coach to resign, he would literally have to pay the school some fee which would be typically millions of dollars (Lane Kiffin curiously excepted). It's not some fairy tale. Players might not like to receive that treatment. I'm not saying that (insert coach) didn't kill a guy, is not a hypocrite, blah blah blah. I'm not saying all fans aren't horrible people. You may be right about that. I'm just saying your comment here is not very well thought out, as there's simply no evidence that everybody is a horrible person around the issue you mention here. It's obviously the opposite. The students under NIL have amazing financial freedom.

It's possible that the students will evolve into employees, but right now, everybody is afraid to navigate those waters. I don't suppose it's worse at all, but just "new" and nobody wants to unleash the massive amount of work that would be required to convert the sport into full semi-pro ball just yet.
 
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Firebirdparts said:
I realize you're just accusing everybody on earth of being a hypocrite, and it's meaningless, but I just wanted to point that you receive no points for this. It's totally misguided.

The truth is, people really hate it when the coach quits, and it's a huge deal. I have no defense for the kind of contracts that these coaches have, but it is true that for a coach to resign, he would literally have to pay the school some fee which would be typically millions of dollars (Lane Kiffin curiously excepted). It's not some fairy tale. Players might not like to receive that treatment. I'm not saying that (insert coach) didn't kill a guy, is not a hypocrite, blah blah blah. I'm not saying all fans aren't horrible people. You may be right about that. I'm just saying your comment here is not very well thought out, as there's simply no evidence that everybody is a horrible person around the issue you mention here. It's obviously the opposite. The students under NIL have amazing financial freedom.

It's possible that the students will evolve into employees, but right now, everybody is afraid to navigate those waters. I don't suppose it's worse at all, but just "new" and nobody wants to unleash the massive amount of work that would be required to convert the sport into full semi-pro ball just yet.
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Way to totally miss my point. You got close though.
 
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jwells said:
Respectfully, in what world is this "woke"? Or are you so used to just throwing that around that you think others will mindlessly agree?

Is it cause they're black?
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Respectfully?
Are you so used to making assumptions that you somehow think you know me?
You know nothing about me or my ethnicity.
 
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Eh whatever. Something is seriously wrong with culture of the program if you have a bunch of players sitting out while healthy.
 
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Want more NIL money somewhere else prolly..............Sign of the times.................
 
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Once a player’s name shows up in the portal, other schools can contact the player. Players can change their minds at any point and withdraw from the portal. However, once a player enters the portal, the current scholarship no longer has to be honored. In other words, if a player enters the portal but decides to stay, the school is not obligated to provide a scholarship anymore.

From the article posted previously.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
Well if you willingly decide to stop and not for medical reason and your intent is to transfer. I feel you should lose your scholarship the rest of year. Why should your current school take care of your education expenses and allow you to workout in training facilities to get better to use at another school that could possibly play you next season. In essence grooming your competition on your own property.
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A simple addition to NCAA portal rules would be...if a player plays one play in a season and enters the portal that same season they lose that years eligibility.
 
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Zues1 said:
Respectfully?
Are you so used to making assumptions that you somehow think you know me?
You know nothing about me or my ethnicity.
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What assumptions? I asked a question.

Here is an assumption: You don't know what woke really means. The fact you use it incorrectly as some pejorative term shows as much.
 
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The real question is. Is this going to become a new reality because of the transfer portal option?
 
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Volfan1000 said:
The real question is. Is this going to become a new reality because of the transfer portal option?
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It's not new. Houston had their QB and a couple other players do it back in 2020. Even before that with grad transfers you would see people sit. The 4 games and preserve a redshirt is relatively new so you wont see much history beyond these five years or whatever it's been.
 
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