So all of Sabans assistants are awesome except...

[TheBigOne10]

Muschamp isn't exactly lighting the world on fire.

But Saban's coaching tree is looking pretty impressive.

Saban's the ultimate mega-douche. You can tell that attribute has been passed down the line. (see Muschamp and/or Dooley)

 

[1972 Grad]

Isn't it the head coaches job to keep the team motivated not to quit? Especially with a bowl berth in the line against the worst team in the SEC and a WR at QB.

Dooley was an abject failure. Period.

The wide receiver at quarterback wasn't the problem. Kentucky only scored 10 points. The problem was that Bray and Da'Rick, and some others were looking forward to Christmas break, instead of a lower tier bowl game, and scored 7. Bray had a horrible game and should have been replaced by Simms or Worley or a wide receiver of our own. I do blame Dooley for sticking with him.

 

[Gandalf]

What in the hell does obama have to do with Tennessee football?

What is similar about them? Well, despite having some level of talent and as much goodwill as adoring fans could give them, they have both pretty much sucked over the last 5 years :hi:

 

[i2amavol]

Pretty easy. Dooley walked into a mess that was starting to turn around somewhat early the second year with 45-23 victory over Cincinnati. Hunter got hurt against Florida, leaving only one threat at receiver. Team went into shock. Team faced brutal part of schedule. Gave up.

All of the defensive staff and half of the offensive staff quit at the end of the year. Third year, all new defensive coaches and scheme.Solid offense because of consistency with scheme and retention of players. Could have been a good year with previous defensive staff. Dooley gets replaced. Start all over.

You are a lot more correct than a lot of people are willing to admit. With a couple of victories instead of verrry close defeats, things could have gone a lot differently.

However, in the long run, I think Dooley's tenure was a lot like Bill Battle's. He was living off of another man's recruits, and his management style was not going to work in the long run. His recruiting is going to haunt us for another year or two, but I am glad he is gone, and now we have what looks like a pretty darn good football future.

 

[Rockytoptalker]

How dare you look at the big picture of our program at the time and make a statement that is so rational. Everybody knows the state of our program is completely Dooley's fault.

Of all the posts I'm sure you've seen on here, you're telling me the only person anyone has ever blamed is Dooley?

 

[Rockytoptalker]

What in the hell does obma have to do with Tennessee football? bush needs to apologize to the people that lost 2/3 of there 401k during his terms. Go cry to Faux News. :loco: :crazy:

Yea because Fox News is the only biased News Station out there, right?

It's not like CNN, MSNBC, ABC, etc... have the slightest hint of liberal bias, right?

 

[1972 Grad]

You are a lot more correct than a lot of people are willing to admit. With a couple of victories instead of verrry close defeats, things could have gone a lot differently.

However, in the long run, I think Dooley's tenure was a lot like Bill Battle's. He was living off of another man's recruits, and his management style was not going to work in the long run. His recruiting is going to haunt us for another year or two, but I am glad he is gone, and now we have what looks like a pretty darn good football future.

You are probably correct about Dooley. I am optimistic that we will turn around in a couple or three more years.

 

[jmkvols]

What we witnessed in football was the perfect storm and all we can do is build back up, brick by brick...........

 

[chattavol420]

Pretty easy. Dooley walked into a mess that was starting to turn around somewhat early the second year with 45-23 victory over Cincinnati. Hunter got hurt against Florida, leaving only one threat at receiver. Team went into shock. Team faced brutal part of schedule. Gave up.

All of the defensive staff and half of the offensive staff quit at the end of the year. Third year, all new defensive coaches and scheme.Solid offense because of consistency with scheme and retention of players. Could have been a good year with previous defensive staff. Dooley gets replaced. Start all over.

Are you suggesting dools was good? The entire staff quit for the same reason he wasn't able to recruit very well... He is the world's biggest D bag. He tried too hard to be like Saban. For Saban, being a world class azz to everyone around him somehow works. Maybe he won a couple of Championships before he let his true colors come out. It doesn't make sense how someone can be such a jerk and still get kids to play for him. But it didn't work for dools.

 

[1972 Grad]

Are you suggesting dools was good? The entire staff quit for the same reason he wasn't able to recruit very well... He is the world's biggest D bag. He tried too hard to be like Saban. For Saban, being a world class azz to everyone around him somehow works. Maybe he won a couple of Championships before he let his true colors come out. It doesn't make sense how someone can be such a jerk and still get kids to play for him. But it didn't work for dools.

There are a lot of big egos and jerks who are coaches and winners. Have you not read about Saban accepting the job at LSU several years ago? I had read an article about what a psycho that Saban was while at Mich State, and how the players hated him.

After going down to interview and accept the job at LSU, he requested that LSU send the plane back to East Lansing to pick up the coaching staff as a unit. Not one of his assistants chose to follow him to LSU. The plane went back empty. That was before the coaches thought of Saban as a way to get a better job. He has always been a jerk.

It didn't work for Dooley because he walked into a bad situation and his staff bailed on him, just like Saban's did after he accepted a new job.

 

[ImportedVoL]

Muschamp and Dooley ruined it for the rest of them...

 

[EastTN]

correct me if I am wrong but was this board not screaming at the jimbo to Tennessee before Butch was hired....something like he is a ACC coach could never beat an SEC team....i think I remember reading that on here

 

[WoodsmanVol]

What in the hell does obma have to do with Tennessee football? bush needs to apologize to the people that lost 2/3 of there 401k during his terms. Go cry to Faux News. :loco: :crazy:

Don't you know orangeluv, Bama boy is not only responsible for the state of Tennessee football but also the polar vortex that has slammed the country in frigid temperatures? He even caused a meteor to explode over Russia. Standby, he will be found as the cause of the current flu epidemic soon. Son-of-a gun foisted them Wilson balls on us too.

 

[salutethehill]

 

[rickyb712]

Just the way it is on the coaching carousel. Not everybody wants to coach at Tennessee

no tennessee dont just want anyone

 

[D-rock]

Pretty easy. Dooley walked into a mess that was starting to turn around somewhat early the second year with 45-23 victory over Cincinnati. Hunter got hurt against Florida, leaving only one threat at receiver. Team went into shock. Team faced brutal part of schedule. Gave up.

All of the defensive staff and half of the offensive staff quit at the end of the year. Third year, all new defensive coaches and scheme.Solid offense because of consistency with scheme and retention of players. Could have been a good year with previous defensive staff. Dooley gets replaced. Start all over.

Be careful, you are using critical thinking and posting situational facts. This is a message board forum. You will get irrational guy trying to argue with you for the next couple of pages in the thread to say the least.

Great Post by you sir. I here by like thee!

 

[sjt18]

You guessed it. Dooley! Just wanted to add to the list of inferior coaches we have had. I find it incredibly hard to accept that all these good coaches have gone everywhere but Knoxville. I don't get it.

Awesome at what? Sunseri is a good position coach. That's not a surprise. He stinks as a DC... that was UT's "surprise".

 

[D-rock]

He kinda sucked there too. He seemed to have some seriously bad luck at UT. The LSU/UNC losses were unbelievable.

Agreed. UT has had some bad luck for a while now. The blocked FG by Bama at Bama. Look at all of the thumb injuries our QB's have had over the last couple of years. Rivals should start evaluating thumb strength.

In before, "every team gets injuries" blah blah blah "it's part of the game" blah blah blah.

I understand that, I played unlike many on here. All I am trying to say is that it seems like UT has had more than our share for a while now. It is time for some things to go our way.

 

[1972 Grad]

Be careful, you are using critical thinking and posting situational facts. This is a message board forum. You will get irrational guy trying to argue with you for the next couple of pages in the thread to say the least.

Great Post by you sir. I here by like thee!

Thank you. I find that it is a heck of a coincidence that pretty much every coach who has been here for the last 5 years has sucked while they were here, and done well elsewhere. Maybe there is another problem. Maybe constant instability, maybe lack of quality depth, maybe lack of speed, maybe just not enough talent??? I hope that we can give these coaches some time.

 

[1972 Grad]

Agreed. UT has had some bad luck for a while now. The blocked FG by Bama at Bama. Look at all of the thumb injuries our QB's have had over the last couple of years. Rivals should start evaluating thumb strength.

In before, "every team gets injuries" blah blah blah "it's part of the game" blah blah blah.

I understand that, I played unlike many on here. All I am trying to say is that it seems like UT has had more than our share for a while now. It is time for some things to go our way.

I am convinced that Dooley was the unluckiest person on the Earth, and Fulmer was the luckiest.

 

[ukvols]

Dooley was a good dude, just bad football coach I blame the AD more than Dooley for the mess DD was about the 4th or 5th choice, when KIFFEN left the local dude at the YMCA turned our job down, till the day I die I think DD WENT TO THE 3-4 DEFENCE so he would get fired.

I don't think Dooley deliberately sabotaged his chance to have a very good season in 2012, and I think it's ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
He had one of the best offenses in school history. I think he switched to the 3-4 Defense because he thought it would help us win.
Dooley was not a good coach, but he didn't go out there and tank on purpose.

 

[KBVol]

I don't think Dooley deliberately sabotaged his chance to have a very good season in 2012, and I think it's ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
He had one of the best offenses in school history. I think he switched to the 3-4 Defense because he thought it would help us win.
Dooley was not a good coach, but he didn't go out there and tank on purpose.

Your second to last sentence sums up Dooley's ineptness pretty good. He's on the hot seat, fighting for his job, and he decided to bring in an unproven/inexperienced DC.... and switch to a completely different defensive scheme when he had the wrong personnel to even give that scheme a chance to be successful. Brilliant. Given what we all know of Dooley now, it all makes perfect sense.

 

[ukvols]

correct me if I am wrong but was this board not screaming at the jimbo to Tennessee before Butch was hired....something like he is a ACC coach could never beat an SEC team....i think I remember reading that on here

Having Winston helped.

 

[orangeluvr]

Don't you know orangeluv, Bama boy is not only responsible for the state of Tennessee football but also the polar vortex that has slammed the country in frigid temperatures? He even caused a meteor to explode over Russia. Standby, he will be found as the cause of the current flu epidemic soon. Son-of-a gun foisted them Wilson balls on us too.

:lolabove:Enjoyed the satire, some users on here like to inject politics into the conversation . :hi: :shakehead:

 

[TheDirector]

Pretty easy. Dooley walked into a mess that was starting to turn around somewhat early the second year with 45-23 victory over Cincinnati. Hunter got hurt against Florida, leaving only one threat at receiver. Team went into shock. Team faced brutal part of schedule. Gave up.

All of the defensive staff and half of the offensive staff quit at the end of the year. Third year, all new defensive coaches and scheme.Solid offense because of consistency with scheme and retention of players. Could have been a good year with previous defensive staff. Dooley gets replaced. Start all over.

You nailed it! That switch to the 3-4 did him in. He was on the hot seat and switching schemes was really dumb on his part. We would have probably had a winning season if he just hired a good 4-3 guy.
That being said, the difference in his recruiting and CBJ is embarrassing and would have hurt long term. Ultimately if he would have saved his job with a mediocre season we might have become Georgia or South Carolina. Underachieving, losing the biggest games repeatedly but winning enough to save the coaches jobs. We have had our worst 5-6 year stretch since the early 1900s but are now coming out of it. Yet with the BCS era now ending, Tennessee, Florida, Bama, Auburn and LSU all won at least 1 NC. While Georgia and USCe won 0 and played for 0. Things could be worse!