So I guess Saban will get the Neyland Award now, right?

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Hulavol said:
I dislike losing to Saban as much as anyone - and I really can’t stand Bama fans and how they derive their self worth from their football team-
But Saban is actually a really cool dude and is very arguably one of the best college football coaches to have ever done the job.
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I have a hard time forming a good argument against him. Id say he’s inarguably the best to ever roam a sideline.
 
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Hulavol said:
I dislike losing to Saban as much as anyone - and I really can’t stand Bama fans and how they derive their self worth from their football team-
But Saban is actually a really cool dude and is very arguably one of the best college football coaches to have ever done the job.
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Not sure how much there is to argue about that not being true. I hate Bama but the dude turned that dumpster fire around and made it a juggernaut.
 
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Wade, Stallings, Bryant...all Bama coaches, have been awarded the Neyland Trophy.

At the heart of the foundation, the trophy isn't about what team the man coached, but how the man advanced intercollegiate athletics. By that definition, Nick Saban should be awarded the trophy.
 
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JohnWardForever said:
When you know how to buy players and get away with it, exactly how good are you? To me, the BEST Coaches beat you with less talent. Saban NEVER had less talent after his first year, AMAZINGLY bringing in the Top Class following a losing season; and mostly the top class every year thereafter. THAT'S How you own the record of 1st Round draft picks. It's not the Arrow, it's the Indian. Ask Steve Spurrier about Saban. He came right out and said Saban was cheating........(Back in the day, naturally He won't say it now)
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That is still the game you’re hating on. However he did it, he did it well. You can’t argue with his record.
 
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So there are three main ways to objectively compare coaches. These methods work across conferences, and through time.

First way is total number of lifetime victories. Sticking with FBS, that list goes like this:
1. Joe Paterno, 409
2. Bobby Bowden, 377 (389 on the field, but 12 were vacated)
3. Bear Bryant, 323
4. Pop Warner, 319
5. Nick Saban, 292

[there are some famous non-FBS coaches who would be high on that list, like John Gagliardi, at an astounding 489 victories, Eddie Robinson (408) and Amos Alonzo Stagg (314), if you're into all tiers of college football]

Second way is winning percentage. That list looks like:
1. Knute Rockne, .881
2. Frank Leahy, .864
3. Urban Meyer, .854
4. George Woodruff, .846
5. Barry Switzer, .837

[Nick Saban is at #14 on that list (.804), five spots lower than General Robert Neyland (.829)]

Finally, one can count national championships (conference championships would be useful comparing coaches inside a conference, but lose utility nationwide). Here is where Saban has a claim as GOAT:
1. Nick Saban, 7
2. Bear Bryant, 6
3t. Bernie Bierman, 5
3t. Woody Hayes, 5
5t. Robert Neyland, 4
5t. Frank Leahy, 4
5t. John McKay, 4

Is Saban the best ever? As you can see above, it's arguable. He's definitely ONE of the greatest.

Go Vols!
 
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Too much reverence for the Bear however I suspect George Denny will get booted. It’ll be Saban-Bryant Stadium.
 
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