So you think you have a manly job?

#27
#27
(VolunteerHillbilly @ Apr 16 said:
Don't you know that you steal someone's soul when you take a picture of them?!
I saw that episode of Geographic too....smiles
 
#28
#28
(dan4vols @ Apr 15 said:
In light of current world conditions and the economy as fragile as glass a man who knows hunting, tracking, and game dressing skills may at the end of the day being the difference whether you and yours eat or not. I was smart/lucky enough to take the time to listen to elder family members who lived through the depression and the skills/techniques they used to live day to day. I've hunted all my life and eat what I took, did I feel remorse for the life I ended? yes...its a creature God made but theres a difference between hunting and murder as there is in war in relation to killing and murder.

I hope it doesn't come down to my hunting skills for my family to eat considering I'm mostly archery. :D

Well put on the hunting part. I eat what I kill, but there is always a small moment of sadness right after the hunt.
 
#29
#29
(dan4vols @ Apr 15 said:
In light of current world conditions and the economy as fragile as glass a man who knows hunting, tracking, and game dressing skills may at the end of the day being the difference whether you and yours eat or not.


Wow. That's a wild thought. There would certainly have to be a complete and utter destruction of our society and economy as we know it. Scary, really.

I have hunted before, and I was always a basketcase after killing another animal. I never really understood why until I was older.

I can also thank my younger brother for influencing and educating me on the treatment of animals. He showed me a video on the PETA website called "Meet Your Meat," and I didn't touch an animal product for an entire month. I think everyone should watch it some time. Weird thing was. . . .I felt really healthy and positive after a while. I have, since then, gone back to my old carnivorous ways, but I try to be a little mindful of the treatment and overharvesting issues (e.g. I no longer eat veal). I kind of wish I was selfless enough to be a "full-time" Vegan.
 
#31
#31
(kiddiedoc @ Apr 16 said:
Wow. That's a wild thought. There would certainly have to be a complete and utter destruction of our society and economy as we know it. Scary, really.

I have hunted before, and I was always a basketcase after killing another animal. I never really understood why until I was older.

I can also thank my younger brother for influencing and educating me on the treatment of animals. He showed me a video on the PETA website called "Meet Your Meat," and I didn't touch an animal product for an entire month. I think everyone should watch it some time. Weird thing was. . . .I felt really healthy and positive after a while. I have, since then, gone back to my old carnivorous ways, but I try to be a little mindful of the treatment and overharvesting issues (e.g. I no longer eat veal). I kind of wish I was selfless enough to be a "full-time" Vegan.

I watched it, I think I'm going to have some more sausage for breakfast now... and maybe a steak.

Btw I've seen some over population problems with deer down here in Rome where I don't know if there's ever a hunting season. All ground vegetation gone. Deer standing around everywhere at night, so thin you can see their ribs.
 
#32
#32
(kiddiedoc @ Apr 15 said:
Ah, yes, the old "overpopulation" justification. To each his own, but I can't help but think that it's a little ego-centric to say that we are left to determine the species-ratio that is appropriate for nature to function at equilibrium. I've even heard the rationalization about a deer excess that puts highway users at risk. However, who's to say that maybe WE aren't the problem? Before we built roads through the middle of the forest, there weren't deer-crossing fatalities. I'm sure the ecosystem seemed to find its own way to deal with overcrowding long before the invention of high-powered rifles, compound bows, and laser scopes.

I'm really not trying to rain on anybody's hunting parade. If you want to do it, and you feel justified in killing a "lower" animal, that's your right. But, to me, there is really no justifiable reason that it NEEDS to be done or is helping in any way. If you want to hunt, do it because you feel superior and you enjoy it.

As for me, I'll stick to my camera.

Prior to high powered rifles, compound bows, and simple bow and arrow, native American tribes across the great plains were running stampedes of buffalo, bison, deer, etc. off of cliffs in order to use maybe 10% of the herd...
 
#33
#33
(kiddiedoc @ Apr 16 said:
Wow. That's a wild thought. There would certainly have to be a complete and utter destruction of our society and economy as we know it. Scary, really.

I have hunted before, and I was always a basketcase after killing another animal. I never really understood why until I was older.

I can also thank my younger brother for influencing and educating me on the treatment of animals. He showed me a video on the PETA website called "Meet Your Meat," and I didn't touch an animal product for an entire month. I think everyone should watch it some time. Weird thing was. . . .I felt really healthy and positive after a while. I have, since then, gone back to my old carnivorous ways, but I try to be a little mindful of the treatment and overharvesting issues (e.g. I no longer eat veal). I kind of wish I was selfless enough to be a "full-time" Vegan.

My dad is a cattle man. I remember him taking me to an IBP packing plant (or slaughter house) when I was young. After touring the facility and watching the cows slaughtered, we ended the day stopping at a local burger joint and having a delicious and juicy hamburger.

I think it is funny that killing animals right before eating them used to be a normal part of life. Now, we are a step or two removed and PETA posts a video of animals being killed in an effort to persuade us not to eat meat.
 
#34
#34
(rockytopscott @ Apr 17 said:
I watched it, I think I'm going to have some more sausage for breakfast now... and maybe a steak.

Given your response, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you have not, indeed, seen the film. The brutality and disrespect that is thrust upon helpless creatures is absolutely sickening. I can't imagine anyone viewing that kind of maltreatment without a sense of remorse or empathy.
 
#35
#35
(therealUT @ Apr 17 said:
I think it is funny that killing animals right before eating them used to be a normal part of life. Now, we are a step or two removed and PETA posts a video of animals being killed in an effort to persuade us not to eat meat.

I have never said that it is "wrong" to kill animals for food. I believe that God gave us rule over the creatures of the earth, to be used for work, food, and companionship. However, with that comes the responsibility to treat them, as any gift or any life, with respect. The film simply gives examples of cruelty that is unknown to the majority of us.
 
#36
#36
i feel bad for the animals but that stuff happens every day and will continue to happen and a stupid little video is not going to make me quit eating meat.
 
#37
#37
(vols kick balls @ Apr 17 said:
i feel bad for the animals but that stuff happens every day and will continue to happen and a stupid little video is not going to make me quit eating meat.

Maybe it won't stop anyone. However it's always good to be able to make an informed decision and respect those of others.
 
#38
#38
I guess the older I get the more I believe in what most people view as Karma. I believe if your mean or cruel to someone or something as a choice, or mistreat just because you can you'll get repaid in kind.
 

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