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MOOOOONEY

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I am as pi$$ed as everyone else about losing but in my humble opinion this is the worst Vols roster I have ever seen in my lifetime and if you think 2009 was worst you are very wrong.

2009 we had 2 first round picks on D in EB and Williams.
NFL QB in Crompton, NFL WR in DMO and TE in Stocker and 2 NFL RB's in Hardesty and Brown.

I honestly do not think we have 1 NFL draft pick on D that is a SR or JR and we may not have a SO that gets drafted, our D is slow very slow.

On offense we have no play makers at this time, I think North will be good, Pig will get better, but our RB'S are average at best our QB's well you seen that today.

This is the worst talent I have ever seen Tennessee put on the field. We are at Vandy level.

I am not putting down any kid on the Roster, they work hard and are playing hard, but we so not have the talent
to compete with FLA, Georgia, SC, and BAMA at this time.

I think if we can keep the commits we have for next year and pick up a couple of DT's, then we will start to build our roster to where it needs to be to compete in the SEC.
 
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MOOOOONEY said:
I am as pi$$ed as everyone else about losing but in my humble opinion this is the worst Vols roster I have ever seen in my lifetime and if you think 2009 was worst you are very wrong.
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Nope. This roster is definitely better than '10 and '11... and probably '09.

I honestly do not think we have 1 NFL draft pick on D that is a SR or JR and we may not have a SO that gets drafted, our D is slow very slow.
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McCullers and AJ are still expected to be drafted by the "experts". Others will get tryouts as ufa's.... like Crompton.

Brown's contribution that year was minimal.

IIRC... that team also started the Sullins bros at 265 lbs each and an undersized RS Fr on the OL because Fulmer had left the cupboard bare. The next year Dooley ended up starting a bunch of Fr on the OL.

On offense we have no play makers at this time, I think North will be good, Pig will get better, but our RB'S are average at best our QB's well you seen that today.
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Lesser players are getting better results against competition that is just as tough. At some point, the OC has to give guys a chance to succeed.

This is the worst talent I have ever seen Tennessee put on the field. We are at Vandy level.

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I believe you are telling yourself this to avoid dealing with the fact that the last two games weren't coached well. There are numerous coaches that prove schemes can make mediocre players successful.

Even Vandy makes a habit of scheming to get players open and to give their QB easy throws.
 
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There are building blocks here on both offense and defense. Where this team is lacking is QB play, D-line, and a lot of the secondary. Cam Sutton is a beast though.
 
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I think some people on this board and team forgot how to win. There are no moral victories in sports. You play to win the game. You can spew excuses about talent, depth and all that bulls*** you want but at the end of the day, everyone from a fan to the waterboy has to be on the same page. Depth and talent didn't lose this game, poor coaching did and that was blatantly obvious. Peterman should have been taken out long before he threw it to the DT. It's obvious that the oline and this scheme aren't made for each other. We call plays every 15 seconds only to get shut down and 3 and out over and over which only gives our D 45 second breaks. Our defense played excellent. We gave up plays but that's part of the game at any level. Every time we hit the field on offense, I might as well have been watching a replay of the last drive as far as play calling. If we are going to throw games on pride and player confidence alone, play the damn freshman some.
 
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sjt18 said:
Nope. This roster is definitely better than '10 and '11... and probably '09.

McCullers and AJ are still expected to be drafted by the "experts". Others will get tryouts as ufa's.... like Crompton.

Brown's contribution that year was minimal.

IIRC... that team also started the Sullins bros at 265 lbs each and an undersized RS Fr on the OL because Fulmer had left the cupboard bare. The next year Dooley ended up starting a bunch of Fr on the OL.
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The 2009 roster Kiffin inherited was quite talented. The following players made the league off that roster:

OT Dallas Thomas
OT Chris Scott
OG Jarrod Shaw
OG Jacques McClendon
QB Jonathan Crompton
QB BJ Coleman (whom Kiffin sent packing along with commit Tajh Boyd)
WR Denarius Moore
TE Luke Stocker
TE Jeff Cottage
RB Montario Hardesty
RB Tauren Poole
RB Bryce Brown
FB Austin Johnson
DT Montori Hughes
DT Dan Williams
DB Eric Berry

We also had OL Aaron Douglas on that roster, who was very talented, and several players who made quality contributions and had NFL talent but for injury issues that would accumulate come their professional aspirations, like Chris Walker, Ben Martin, & Wes Brown. We had other players who fit the scheme well and would win post-season all-SEC honors in their Tennessee tenures, like Rico McCoy, Janzen Jackson & Prentiss Waggner.

The reason the Sullins twins got minutes was solely because the genius Kiffin decided to play them over more talented players on the OL and because Kiffin foolishly pushed Josh McNeil too hard in practice with his knee injuries, which was just "coincidentally" the player who was the most resistant to Kiffin's attitudinal approach to UT traditions.

So you think this roster will have 20 or so players either make the league or win post-season All-SEC first or second team honors in their tenures? Who would those be?
 
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VegasVol said:
The 2009 roster Kiffin inherited was quite talented. The following players made the league off that roster:

OT Dallas Thomas
OT Chris Scott
OG Jarrod Shaw
OG Jacques McClendon
QB Jonathan Crompton
QB BJ Coleman (whom Kiffin sent packing along with commit Tajh Boyd)
WR Denarius Moore
TE Luke Stocker
TE Jeff Cottage
RB Montario Hardesty
RB Tauren Poole
RB Bryce Brown
FB Austin Johnson
DT Montori Hughes
DT Dan Williams
DB Eric Berry

We also had OL Aaron Douglas on that roster, who was very talented, and several players who made quality contributions and had NFL talent but for injury issues that would accumulate come their professional aspirations, like Chris Walker, Ben Martin, & Wes Brown. We had other players who fit the scheme well and would win post-season all-SEC honors in their Tennessee tenures, like Rico McCoy, Janzen Jackson & Prentiss Waggner.

The reason the Sullins twins got minutes was solely because the genius Kiffin decided to play them over more talented players on the OL and because Kiffin foolishly pushed Josh McNeil too hard in practice with his knee injuries, which was just "coincidentally" the player who was the most resistant to Kiffin's attitudinal approach to UT traditions.

So you think this roster will have 20 or so players either make the league or win post-season All-SEC first or second team honors in their tenures? Who would those be?
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Dudes an idiot if he thinks this team is more talented than 09 10 and 11. Lol it's quite comical he thinks that way tho
 
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I thik w have a lot of young future talent..North and Pig n offnse..Josh Smith will also be really good...only a true freshman and he is open all the time......CamSutton isa beast for a true freshman....then you have the oline NFL talent.....AJon D, Mcullers, Randolph is pretty good asis Brewer...Maggit even thugh he aint playing riht now....this team has talent...and between Dobbs or Fergy i woud bet ne of them is atleast legit...when we will see them, i don't know...
 
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sjt18 said:
Nope. This roster is definitely better than '10 and '11... and probably '09.
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your an idiot if you believe that. Yup Worley is better than bray. Pig, north, and smith are way better than hunter, Rogers, Dmo, and Gerald jones. Brendan downs is better than Luke stalker and Michael Rivera. That's just the offensive players that played during the time you stated I don't think I have to go through the Defensive players to proove your an idiot.
 
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OrangeAllDay said:
your an idiot if you believe that. Yup Worley is better than bray. Pig, north, and smith are way better than hunter, Rogers, Dmo, and Gerald jones. Brendan downs is better than Luke stalker and Michael Rivera. That's just the offensive players that played during the time you stated I don't think I have to go through the Defensive players to proove your an idiot.
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Agree, He is saying that so He can blame it on the coach and not the lack of talent, It is funny what they will say to prove their inaccurate point,
 
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OrangeAllDay said:
your an idiot if you believe that. Yup Worley is better than bray. Pig, north, and smith are way better than hunter, Rogers, Dmo, and Gerald jones. Brendan downs is better than Luke stalker and Michael Rivera. That's just the offensive players that played during the time you stated I don't think I have to go through the Defensive players to proove your an idiot.
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If you're going to call someone else an idiot you should really learn to spell first.


And Luke stalker ? now that shiz cracked me up.
 
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JOEY'S ALL VOL !!! said:
I'm aware of that and it makes no difference.
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You are right. Regardless of that distinction, the guy is still an idiot.

I made this comment to my brother during the Oregon game. We lack talent it is that simple.

And good players make coaches look good.
 
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worst I've seen since 1948 when I started following. Zero playmakers. Parlardy has emerged as the only possibility. He's showing what he was recruited for after 4 years of marginal kicking.
 
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MFL said:
worst I've seen since 1948 when I started following. Zero playmakers. Parlardy has emerged as the only possibility. He's showing what he was recruited for after 4 years of marginal kicking.
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Bingo. We do not one difference maker on the team right now.
 
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VegasVol said:
The 2009 roster Kiffin inherited was quite talented. The following players made the league off that roster:

OT Dallas Thomas
OT Chris Scott
OG Jarrod Shaw
OG Jacques McClendon
QB Jonathan Crompton
QB BJ Coleman (whom Kiffin sent packing along with commit Tajh Boyd)
WR Denarius Moore
TE Luke Stocker
TE Jeff Cottage
RB Montario Hardesty
RB Tauren Poole
RB Bryce Brown
FB Austin Johnson
DT Montori Hughes
DT Dan Williams
DB Eric Berry

We also had OL Aaron Douglas on that roster, who was very talented, and several players who made quality contributions and had NFL talent but for injury issues that would accumulate come their professional aspirations, like Chris Walker, Ben Martin, & Wes Brown. We had other players who fit the scheme well and would win post-season all-SEC honors in their Tennessee tenures, like Rico McCoy, Janzen Jackson & Prentiss Waggner.

The reason the Sullins twins got minutes was solely because the genius Kiffin decided to play them over more talented players on the OL and because Kiffin foolishly pushed Josh McNeil too hard in practice with his knee injuries, which was just "coincidentally" the player who was the most resistant to Kiffin's attitudinal approach to UT traditions.

So you think this roster will have 20 or so players either make the league or win post-season All-SEC first or second team honors in their tenures? Who would those be?
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Some of these guy were only invited to NFL camps for practice, but you pt is spot on.
 
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sjt18 said:
Nope. This roster is definitely better than '10 and '11... and probably '09.

McCullers and AJ are still expected to be drafted by the "experts". Others will get tryouts as ufa's.... like Crompton.

Brown's contribution that year was minimal.

IIRC... that team also started the Sullins bros at 265 lbs each and an undersized RS Fr on the OL because Fulmer had left the cupboard bare. The next year Dooley ended up starting a bunch of Fr on the OL.

Lesser players are getting better results against competition that is just as tough. At some point, the OC has to give guys a chance to succeed.



I believe you are telling yourself this to avoid dealing with the fact that the last two games weren't coached well. There are numerous coaches that prove schemes can make mediocre players successful.

Even Vandy makes a habit of scheming to get players open and to give their QB easy throws.
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Dude, you usually have some decent contributions to this board, but this is crazy talk.
 
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Lifesabutch said:
You don't think A.J. will get drafted? Seriously?
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Nope he doesn't have the speed to play NFL, the NFL is a passing league your linebackers have to be able to pass cover and tackle and play in space which at this point he has not proven he can do.
 
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sjt18 said:
Nope. This roster is definitely better than '10 and '11... and probably '09.

McCullers and AJ are still expected to be drafted by the "experts". Others will get tryouts as ufa's.... like Crompton.

Brown's contribution that year was minimal.

IIRC... that team also started the Sullins bros at 265 lbs each and an undersized RS Fr on the OL because Fulmer had left the cupboard bare. The next year Dooley ended up starting a bunch of Fr on the OL.

Lesser players are getting better results against competition that is just as tough. At some point, the OC has to give guys a chance to succeed.



I believe you are telling yourself this to avoid dealing with the fact that the last two games weren't coached well. There are numerous coaches that prove schemes can make mediocre players successful.

Even Vandy makes a habit of scheming to get players open and to give their QB easy throws.
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There is no way this roster is better than 09 and 11 and probably not even 10
 
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