Something that really bugged me about yesterday's game

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orangepridenation said:
He isn't overly mobile, but as long as he's going to completely carry out the fake, he might as well keep it 3 or 4 times a game, simply to keep the defense mildly on its toes. Something that simple can potentially be the difference in a 2 yard loss and a 3-4 yard gain on any given play.

But for all we know, these true freshmen behind Worley may not even be in the stratosphere of being ready to play, so perhaps the coaches don't want Worley running due to the risk. Anything is possible. I'm just happy we won.
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THIS. I think they are holding off on the QB keep at this point. With Worley healthy , we are in position to win 2 more games and therefore go to a bowl . Sending a relatively slow QB thru a gap vacated by the defensive end ...could very well get him crushed by an astute LB or crashing safety . Bye bye to bowl hopes.

I think this becomes a bigger part of the offense next season when the 3 backups are more up to game speed. Worley gets hurt and someone can come in and take the reins without faltering
 
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Orange Alert said:
I was not impressed with the play calling but there are two things to keep in mind: the passing game is more of a liability than an asset right now, and SC's defense looked and/or played much better than GA's defense,
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We would not have won without the passing game. Long passes to North set up TDs. While the passing game can and will improve, it is still inconsistent.
 
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VOLINVONORE said:
We would not have won without the passing game. Long passes to North set up TDs. While the passing game can and will improve, it is still inconsistent.
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If you take out the one really good catch by North and the one great catch by North UT was 17 of 34 for 92 yards (and about 23 of those 92 came on one catch from Croom). Thats 2.7 yards/attempt. Thats terrible.

If you just take out the one miracle catch by North at the end of the game UT finishes 18 of 35 for 141 yards. Thats 4.0 yards/attempt. That is also not very good.

Without those 1 or 2 catches by North no one would be complimentary of Worley and the receivers after the SC game. I agree that the passing game is improving, but it has a long way to go before becoming a weapon for the offense.
 
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Spiking the ball is an incomplete pass, not a kneel down. They had to spike the ball to stop the clock. It would have likely been disastrous to run a play to move it to the opposite hash, had time continue to run and get the FG unit out there.

Neyland was in full panic mode on the spike, but it was the only logical call Butch and Co. Had.
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Brianchevy said:
They figured out the same thing that we figured out by watching the Offense, specifically that Worley is NEVER, EVER going to keep the ball on the read option. Not a SINGLE TIME, EVER.

and once you know that, it's easier to defend this offense. It really isn't an option any longer. On the play when Clowney blew up Neal, Worley should have "READ-OPTION" and kept the ball.

But they don't implement a true "read-option", it's more of a "hand off or pass" offense.

/soapbox
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but, but, GAVOL said that we don't have to have a QB that can run in order for this offense to work.

I'm just digging at you GAVOL :)
I am sure that over the last several weeks you have heard just about every commentator and some coaches say that we need a running threat at QB for this to work...would you like to change your position on this?
 
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The only thing that puzzled me about the offensive game plan was how many rollout passes and designed running plays we had to Clowney's side. I never understand rolling a qb to his weak side anyway, let alone when that side has the best DE in CFB. I think that aspect of the game plan was responsible for at least a couple 3 and outs.
 
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volfanbill said:
Spiking the ball is an incomplete pass, not a kneel down. They had to spike the ball to stop the clock. It would have likely been disastrous to run a play to move it to the opposite hash, had time continue to run and get the FG unit out there.

Neyland was in full panic mode on the spike, but it was the only logical call Butch and Co. Had.
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I'm just glad nobody jumped for an illegal procedure. The 10 second run off rule would have lost the game. I don't think I would run it down to 3 seconds just for that reason. I know why they did run it to 3 seconds but it is risky. Butch showed confidence in the team by doing that and I hope those guys recognize that. No panic. Just calm, cool, collected, do your job.
 
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Volingatorland said:
First off, I'm ecstatic that we won. I really do think we have a coach that will do great things for us. However, I noticed something during the second half that really bothered me. It seemed every offensive series went like this: run middle, run edge, pass, punt. With the exception of a play or two that looked blown, there wasn't really any variation. As the game progressed, it seemed SCe's defense could predict it more and more, and our offense was becoming less and less effective. Is this just a result of less talent at QB than desired (I'm by no means in the "get rid of Worley" camp, we saw that result at Florida), or is it a flaw of one dimensional play calling? I'll hang up and listen.
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I agree, I did not like the play calling the second half. They were afraid to let Worley loose. I don't blame them for that. He played a very good game, BUT is prone to making some occasional dumb decisions. I.E. the throw in the endzone with triple coverage. I believe that was in the first half. Either way, I think that have to find a way to keep the defense on its heels more. With that being said, I loved the Georgia play calls! GBO
 
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Orange Maniac said:
I'm just glad nobody jumped for an illegal procedure. The 10 second run off rule would have lost the game. I don't think I would run it down to 3 seconds just for that reason. I know why they did run it to 3 seconds but it is risky. Butch showed confidence in the team by doing that and I hope those guys recognize that. No panic. Just calm, cool, collected, do your job.
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That o-line has been trained to not jump on an offsides call, why think they would jump when they know full well all they are doing is milking clock? Even Dooley trained teams could do that.
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Also, the constant runs set up some play action plays. It's boring, but overall effective. It's the style that made Fulmer a winner and Saban has pretty good luck with it. Of course both of those instances had FAR superior talent, making them look better running the same thing.
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volfanbill said:
That o-line has been trained to not jump on an offsides call, why think they would jump when they know full well all they are doing is milking clock? Even Dooley trained teams could do that.
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How many times has Tiny been flagged this year. That's why I think it's risky to go under 10 seconds. I understand it, but I won't lie, I was nervous.
 
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Orange Maniac said:
How many times has Tiny been flagged this year. That's why I think it's risky to go under 10 seconds. I understand it, but I won't lie, I was nervous.
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That's when they have to make a play. Here, it was just alright sit here and let's give it to Palardy. When your other option is to scramble to get the FG unit out there in time and pray to get the snap off, it's a no-brainer call.
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Volingatorland said:
First off, I'm ecstatic that we won. I really do think we have a coach that will do great things for us. However, I noticed something during the second half that really bothered me. It seemed every offensive series went like this: run middle, run edge, pass, punt. With the exception of a play or two that looked blown, there wasn't really any variation. As the game progressed, it seemed SCe's defense could predict it more and more, and our offense was becoming less and less effective. Is this just a result of less talent at QB than desired (I'm by no means in the "get rid of Worley" camp, we saw that result at Florida), or is it a flaw of one dimensional play calling? I'll hang up and listen.
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We won the ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffing game.:banghead2:
 
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Spurrier said he was looking to see what tennessee's defense did and he didnt like the looks. He was hoping for a mismatch, but it looks as if tennessee was prepared and he didnt risk it. VOLS WON!!! next.........
 
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I guess if op was a Bama fan he'd be bothered by their playcalling also. Run middle, repeat.
 
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TlM said:
I don't know if I dreamed it but Worley has definitely kept the ball a few times on the read-option. No, he isn't going to take off 15 times a game but he has definitely took off a few times.
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His only runs were scrambles out of the pocket. He did well then. He has enough speed to run the read. He just doesn't
 
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The only series I was REAL disappointed in was the drive after USC's go ahead TD.
Other than that I thought the play calls were solid.
 
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Brianchevy said:
They figured out the same thing that we figured out by watching the Offense, specifically that Worley is NEVER, EVER going to keep the ball on the read option. Not a SINGLE TIME, EVER.

and once you know that, it's easier to defend this offense. It really isn't an option any longer. On the play when Clowney blew up Neal, Worley should have "READ-OPTION" and kept the ball.

But they don't implement a true "read-option", it's more of a "hand off or pass" offense.

/soapbox
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I know Worley kept it once against UGA, because I bet my friend $1 that Worley would keep it next time on the read-option, and he did. Still looking for that dollar though.
 
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Orange Alert said:
If you take out the one really good catch by North and the one great catch by North UT was 17 of 34 for 92 yards (and about 23 of those 92 came on one catch from Croom). Thats 2.7 yards/attempt. Thats terrible.

If you just take out the one miracle catch by North at the end of the game UT finishes 18 of 35 for 141 yards. Thats 4.0 yards/attempt. That is also not very good.

Without those 1 or 2 catches by North no one would be complimentary of Worley and the receivers after the SC game. I agree that the passing game is improving, but it has a long way to go before becoming a weapon for the offense.
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Yeah but you can't take those things out.
 
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sjt18 said:
I watched Worley answer that question again. He answered it the same way: "I have keys I am supposed to read." He said they had not talked to him about keeping it more.

He looked like he was lying... like the question made him uncomfortable. I STRONGLY suspect he's been told not to keep it.

Not sure about Bajakian... but it seems that having one of the Fr in there scares the crap out of Jones.

If I were the coach, saw all that green, and trusted my back up... I'd be riding his tail about keeping the ball more.
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Worley is not reading anything. He is handing off--period. I don't think he's kept the ball five times all year--the run against SC was a scramble. Not criticizing, just sayin'. Our offense is pretty pedestrian--but Howard has helped and we are capable of running the ball. Will that be enough this week? I very much doubt it.
 
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The important thing to remember is that that is the kind of game UT usually loses (like last year). Neal's "pass" gets ruled a fumble, North doesn't come down with the catch and no PI is called, Lane gets blasted by Clowney and fumbles, Drummer botches the hold, we jump and we lose on the clock runoff, Palardy misses. That was the first game in a long long time where pretty much everything we needed to go our way did. Every play I was expecting something unbelievably horrible to happen...but it didn't. I think UT football over the past few years has severely damaged my psyche...
 
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volfanbill said:
That's when they have to make a play. Here, it was just alright sit here and let's give it to Palardy. When your other option is to scramble to get the FG unit out there in time and pray to get the snap off, it's a no-brainer call.
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You missed my whole point.
 
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