Sopranos!!!

#251
#251
I thought maybe they were going somewhere nice to eat, since they had to call and see if they could be seated.
 
#253
#253
That was perfect. Think about it....it's the best way to end it. Leave it open for your own conclusion. There is no ending that would please everyone so just let everyone come to their own conclusion about what you just saw.

Personally, I think that was the last thing Tony ever saw.
 
#256
#256
I was reading an article/interview with Gandolfini a few days ago and he was talking about how happy he was going to be to shed the character and be done with it. Kind of made a movie seem far-fetched at this point.

Thinking that'll be it, just ending it and letting everyone draw their own conclusions.
 
#257
#257
tidwell said:
I was reading an article/interview with Gandolfini a few days ago and he was talking about how happy he was going to be to shed the character and be done with it. Kind of made a movie seem far-fetched at this point.
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Didn't hear that.
 
#258
#258
tidwell said:
Thinking that'll be it, just ending it and letting everyone draw their own conclusions.
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Exactly...as i sit here i thinking about the possible conclusions. Maybe that guy was a suicide bomber and the screen cut out as he went off or maybe it was just some guy who recognized him and went to take a piss.
 
#259
#259
The Sopranos Television show - The Sopranos TV Show - Yahoo! TV

Now there's only one piece of unfinished business. The finale, which airs Sunday at 9 p.m. EDT, will bring to a close a saga as powerful and oddly relatable as anything ever seen on TV. This conclusion, however satisfying or disappointing, will surely leave "Sopranos" fans wanting more.

But not Gandolfini.

"The character has been with me for so long," he says, "it's a relief to let him go."
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#260
#260
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#261
#261
i was pissed last night when it ended.

crew and Tid, i agree with you guys. i think chase just basically knew that he couldn't clean up everything and make everyone happy, so, the result: no one gets an ending.

and while i do think that's fairly clever, and ballsy, it still sucked.........i need closure!
 
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#262
jakez4ut said:
i was pissed last night when it ended.

crew and Tid, i agree with you guys. i think chase just basically knew that he couldn't clean up everything and make everyone happy, so, the result: no one gets an ending.

and while i do think that's fairly clever, and ballsy, it still sucked.........i need closure!
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Last weeks episode was really the climax. This was simply the clean up, but it really fits the series well. They never have been ashamed to leave plot lines, or allow the viewer to come to their own conclusions.

For a final episode it really wasn't that interesting. The entire point seemed to be that life goes on, and that each character in the show will remained unchanged and consistent to their nature regardless of what is happening around them.

Carmella, AJ and Meadow all reveal their true colors, and drop any idealism that previous adversity had sparked. Tony is still a sociopath (even if he is loveable). I must admit that the final shot with Paulie sunning while the obsessed cat walks by was classic.
 
#263
#263
The ending really ticked me off. Since I've moved, I've had nothing but problems with my Comcast cable. The Comcast people have been up here about 20 times. So when the TV just blacked out at the end, let's just say I had a few choice words for Comcast until I figured it out.
 
#264
#264
Paulie's facial expressions after talking with Tony in his last two scenes leads me to think something was up with him. Something either with the Feds or the New York family. Another open ended story line for me.
 
#265
#265
hohenfelsvol said:
Paulie's facial expressions after talking with Tony in his last two scenes leads me to think something was up with him. Something either with the Feds or the New York family. Another open ended story line for me.
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Perhaps he deserves more sympathy than any character on the showI think that Paulie's character is blindly loyal. That was the point that was being made with his final interaction with Tony. All Paulie ever wanted was to be Tony's top captain. That is why he always despised Christopher.

Tony finally comes to him with the big deal because he is completely out of options, and being the superstitious hypochodriac that he is,Paulie now fears the opportunity and feels like he is past his prime. It would be like the Dolphins coming to Dan Marino right now and saying "You are our man".
 
#266
#266
Not sure I agree Lex. Think you may be right but that's what the final episdoe has created. Lots of theories.
 
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#267
Lexvol said:
Last weeks episode was really the climax. This was simply the clean up, but it really fits the series well. They never have been ashamed to leave plot lines, or allow the viewer to come to their own conclusions.

For a final episode it really wasn't that interesting. The entire point seemed to be that life goes on, and that each character in the show will remained unchanged and consistent to their nature regardless of what is happening around them.

Carmella, AJ and Meadow all reveal their true colors, and drop any idealism that previous adversity had sparked. Tony is still a sociopath (even if he is loveable). I must admit that the final shot with Paulie sunning while the obsessed cat walks by was classic.
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Lexvol said:
Perhaps he deserves more sympathy than any character on the showI think that Paulie's character is blindly loyal. That was the point that was being made with his final interaction with Tony. All Paulie ever wanted was to be Tony's top captain. That is why he always despised Christopher.

Tony finally comes to him with the big deal because he is completely out of options, and being the superstitious hypochodriac that he is,Paulie now fears the opportunity and feels like he is past his prime. It would be like the Dolphins coming to Dan Marino right now and saying "You are our man".
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DAvid Chase, is that you?:p

seriously, that's fair, and all good points...and in merit, you are probably correct...i admit, kind of thought the same thing about "life just keeps going, regardless" for those characters.

i admit thouth, i was with hohen about Paulie. he's always had this weird disdain for Tony for not sympathizing more or whatever, but when he turned down the job offer, i knew nothing was up with him, and i agree about the paranoid tendancies he displayed thru out the series.

but, at the end of the day, i like my series finales to wrap up all the stories....and end with some sort of closure.

the best part of it for me though was the FBI agent....this guy turned out to be very dirty and he definitely picked sides in the end.

and the way phil went out was priceless...so kudos for that.
 
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#268
jakez4ut said:
DAvid Chase, is that you?:p

seriously, that's fair, and all good points...and in merit, you are probably correct...i admit, kind of thought the same thing about "life just keeps going, regardless" for those characters.

i admit thouth, i was with hohen about Paulie. he's always had this weird disdain for Tony for not sympathizing more or whatever, but when he turned down the job offer, i knew nothing was up with him, and i agree about the paranoid tendancies he displayed thru out the series.

but, at the end of the day, i like my series finales to wrap up all the stories....and end with some sort of closure.

the best part of it for me though was the FBI agent....this guy turned out to be very dirty and he definitely picked sides in the end.

and the way phil went out was priceless...so kudos for that.
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Mob movies always have closure through whacking, but that was never really the point of the series. The Sopranos was really a case study of a sociopath and his family. Just like pimpin' being a mobster is not easy.

The title of this episode should be "The More Things Change....." The point being made was that these characters will go to sleep right tonight completely unchanged. Each will continue to look out for their own self interest. Carm gets to go home, AJ gets to drive a beamer, and Meadow will go to law school and make bank.

The only unanswered question that I have is this: Is Uncle JR really senile. That continues to puzzle me.
 
#269
#269
hohenfelsvol said:
Not sure I agree Lex. Think you may be right but that's what the final episdoe has created. Lots of theories.
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Those same facial expressions tell me that he has never felt completely respected by Tony who he has unconditionally served and will do so up until his last breath.
 
#270
#270
Lexvol said:
Mob movies always have closure through whacking, but that was never really the point of the series. The Sopranos was really a case study of a sociopath and his family. Just like pimpin' being a mobster is not easy.

The title of this episode should be "The More Things Change....." The point being made was that these characters will go to sleep right tonight completely unchanged. Each will continue to look out for their own self interest. Carm gets to go home, AJ gets to drive a beamer, and Meadow will go to law school and make bank.

The only unanswered question that I have is this: Is Uncle JR really senile. That continues to puzzle me.
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i agree on all points. it's just that that doesn't make me feel any better.:)
 
#271
#271
I thought I would check in and see what you guys thought about that.

My personal opinion is that Chase was playing a huge joke on the viewers while at the same time giving a more indepth look at Tony's life than we could have seen any other way. Tension builds with Meadow trying to park the car, while people you can't immediately recognize walk in through the chiming door, and with people in the restaurant who might be FBI or hitmen eating and talking and disappearing into the bathroom. The audience is ready for a climactic moment, just like Tony has to be, and that is how he leaves us. I actually laughed when the credits started to roll.

He did clean up a lot of story lines. Phil, the immediate threat, is gone in a most satisfying manner, but nobody knows where the Sopranos stand with NY; AJ and Meadow are set up in new directions; the crew is rebalanced, but has some question marks; the Feds are still there in the background. Life goes on for the family.

I think I actually like the ending.
 
#272
#272
cotton said:
I thought I would check in and see what you guys thought about that.

My personal opinion is that Chase was playing a huge joke on the viewers while at the same time giving a more indepth look at Tony's life than we could have seen any other way. Tension builds with Meadow trying to park the car, while people you can't immediately recognize walk in through the chiming door, and with people in the restaurant who might be FBI or hitmen eating and talking and disappearing into the bathroom. The audience is ready for a climactic moment, just like Tony has to be, and that is how he leaves us. I actually laughed when the credits started to roll.

He did clean up a lot of story lines. Phil, the immediate threat, is gone in a most satisfying manner, but nobody knows where the Sopranos stand with NY; AJ and Meadow are set up in new directions; the crew is rebalanced, but has some question marks; the Feds are still there in the background. Life goes on for the family.

I think I actually like the ending.
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I agree Cotton. It is going to piss a lot of people off, but it was brilliant. I always thought it was weird in the earlier episodes that the writers chose to include all of Tony's mundane family crap. When in fact, that was what the show was essentially about. Even sociopathic monsters have bitchy wives and crazy children.
 
#273
#273
Lexvol said:
Those same facial expressions tell me that he has never felt completely respected by Tony who he has unconditionally served and will do so up until his last breath.
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Paulie was leaking information when he was in Prison to the New York family. Makes me wonder if he did it again. Not quoting this for truth but it something that has crossed my mind.
 
#274
#274
ok, after more deliberation, i'm on the side that the ending was just about perfect...for this show.....i'm with you Lex.....it stayed true to the show and characters.......so i can't be too upset.

just on selfish level, i wanted more....
 
#275
#275
jakez4ut said:
ok, after more deliberation, i'm on the side that the ending was just about perfect...for this show.....i'm with you Lex.....it stayed true to the show and characters.......so i can't be too upset.

just on selfish level, i wanted more....
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:eek:k:
 
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