Source: LSU DC Dave Aranda remains nation's top-paid assistant with new 4-year, $10M

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Figured they’d fire yaw yaw after losing to ND. I don’t think they’re much better than 9-4 or 8-5
 
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I’ll tell you why they paid him so much Texas A&M was coming and they would have paid him that much if LSU didn’t

Plus they’re losing Canada and it would look horrible to lose Aranda too after Orgeron’s first year. Not to mentioning losing him to A&M

It is a ridiculous amount of money for a DC tho
 
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Boston Vol said:
He has a $12 million buyout
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Actually its $9m now, I wouldn't expect Orgeron to be gone anytime soon unless he runs butt nekkid over the Tiger Eye during the middle of the game. He has done decent (most SEC wins since 2012), it would have been nice to see them close out Notre Dame. Aranda has always been LSU's target, and most important person on the staff. imo

When LSU refused to hit the $100m Jimbo randsom back in 2016, it was well known what direction they were going to take - pay the coordinators. Now what happens to Canada is a different story.
 
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vol-un-tear said:
Figured they’d fire yaw yaw after losing to ND. I don’t think they’re much better than 9-4 or 8-5
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They had an incredibly easy schedule this year

At least 4 or 5 teams they played fired their coach plus a really easy non conference schedule

Next year they gotta open with Miami lose that and they will be lucky as hell to win 9 again
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Actually its $9m now, I wouldn't expect Orgeron to be gone anytime soon unless he runs butt nekkid over the Tiger Eye during the middle of the game.
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If he beats Alabama, they'd let him get by with that.
 
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Holy cow. I'm a fan of Aranda and think he does a great job (plus I just like the demeanor he has) but that is an insane amount of money.

When they fire Yaw Yaw in a couple years, I bet they just promote Aranda.
 
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With Currie gone -- LSUs AD regains the top spot of the dumbest AD in Power 5
 
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508mikey said:
With Currie gone -- LSUs AD regains the top spot of the dumbest AD in Power 5
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Totally accurate. He's way out of his league coming from Duke and their athletic programs. He also controversially forced out their lacrosse coach during that huge scandal.
 
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508mikey said:
With Currie gone -- LSUs AD regains the top spot of the dumbest AD in Power 5
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Hm. I would think the dumbest AD/school would probably go to the one that allowed their fans to get mixed into the hiring process. If you don't know which one I am talking about, think harder. Basically paying Aranda is an extension of the path taken last year, which I thought made about as much sense as anything else considering the other price tags involved.

Texas A&M just spend bucket of cash on a coach that had a losing record at a major Florida school and they will probably willing to pay Aranda even more than what LSU gave him. For the record, I think all of these salaries are obscene for what is suppose to be a school activity.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Hm. I would think the dumbest AD/school would probably go to the one that allowed their fans to get mixed into the hiring process. If you don't know which one I am talking about, think harder. Basically paying Aranda is an extension of the path taken last year, which I thought made about as much sense as anything else considering the other price tags involved.

Texas A&M just spend bucket of cash on a coach that had a losing record at a major Florida school and they will probably willing to pay Aranda even more than what LSU gave him. For the record, I think all of these salaries are obscene for what is suppose to be a school activity.
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He said "with Currie gone." He isn't our AD anymore, allowing Alleva to go back to the top of the list of worst ADs.
 
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05_never_again said:
He said "with Currie gone." He isn't our AD anymore, allowing Alleva to go back to the top of the list of worst ADs.
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How did you reach this conclusion, based on....

What was not going to happen was hiring Jimbo for $100m and still paying $3m to Aranda, which is what TAM is doing or attempting to do. Canada hasn't proven his worth yet, good chance he is not back - time will tell. Same game plan, pay down for head coach because none really better considering costs and pay for the assistants that produce.

Literally its the same thing every year, fans actually think they know.... but clearly don't. Proof of this, watching this forum during the UT hiring process.

I can say... this LSU team this year would have been a freaking disaster with Les and Cameron, the personnel was not where it needs to be... they did more with less this year, probably less than what has been there since the 90s. Personnel in theory should have a jump this year (minus at RB), so this is where Orgeron needs to get to 10/11 wins and compete at the next level. LSU has to get better to compete at the next level.

Aranda has always been LSU's priority, whether it works out is yet to be seen but I really don't see a better plan on the table.... if you have one, I am all ears. Canada is a different story, most probably on the way out. I have heard two different directions they might go, one might be back to Coach E, the other might be a big target.

I think Jimbo is a good coach, it made sense for LSU to go after him but not $100m+ and then hiring the same coordinators for more money. I would not be surprised by Jimbo struggling at TAM - the personnel is not what he is use to at FSU.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
How did you reach this conclusion, based on....

What was not going to happen was hiring Jimbo for $100m and still paying $3m to Aranda, which is what TAM is doing or attempting to do. Canada hasn't proven his worth yet, good chance he is not back - time will tell. Same game plan, pay down for head coach because none really better considering costs and pay for the assistants that produce.

Literally its the same thing every year, fans actually think they know.... but clearly don't. Proof of this, watching this forum during the UT hiring process.

I can say... this LSU team this year would have been a freaking disaster with Les and Cameron, the personnel was not where it needs to be... they did more with less this year, probably less than what has been there since the 90s.
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1. How Alleva handled Duke lacrosse (I know that occurred while not at LSU, but it's a huge mark on his tenure as an AD)
2. Total botching of the handling of the Les Miles situation at the end of the 2015 season
3. After firing Miles, he went all in on Herman/Jimbo and didn't conduct a proper coaching search (sound familiar to Currie?). When his targets fell through, he panicked and fell back to Coach O
4. Gives Coach O a huge buyout despite no other school wanting him for a HC position

It's interesting that you think LSU did more with less this year when they have two losses (Troy and Notre Dame) that look really bad. The score of the Miss St game looks really bad too, but I understand a loss to them. The come from behind win against Auburn was a huge one for you guys, so that cancels out the Notre Dame loss I suppose. Ultimately, of Coach O isn't able to get to Atlanta within the next year or two, you'll be looking for a new coach again.
 
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05_never_again said:
2. Total botching of the handling of the Les Miles situation at the end of the 2015 season
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(why I don't pay for ESPN's stupid crap, look very closely at this amount of made up BS)

What did he botch? Les was under contract. LOL Its called ESPN, making waves. I guess that is what you are talking about. It was getting time for Les to go, if they could have gotten Jimbo for a reasonable price by the end of 2015... I was fine with it.... it was very apparent by game 1 in 2016 that Les had to go.

3. After firing Miles, he went all in on Herman/Jimbo and didn't conduct a proper coaching search (sound familiar to Currie?). When his targets fell through, he panicked and fell back to Coach O
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Coach O was the #3 choice, so....

Coach O actually has a much better record than all the target coaches including Jimbo, who had a losing record. Whether Coach O is the right hire is yet to be determined, but you haven't mentioned on or the price tag... you fans have no idea.

4. Gives Coach O a huge buyout despite no other school wanting him for a HC position
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Actually compared to other coaches its not a huge buyout... it was still actually quite small. Lets just put this in perspective, Jimbo even after this year had a $40m buyout. LOL TAM just paid Sumlin well into his contract a $10m, not year 1.

Coach O's buyout is now $6m, and will be $3m after next year. There is nothing super high about this, TAM just threw the bank at a coach with a losing record last year, I don't like the money involved but in that context... no not high at all.

It's interesting that you think LSU did more with less this year when they have two losses (Troy and Notre Dame) that look really bad.
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The Troy game happened, eventually that happens to every coach, and they played much better after. What does that have to do with the AD? LOL

Notre Dame is not a bad team, you are insane, they were ranked #14 for a reason.... bad is Tennessee football that is bad. Bad would have been if LSU lost to Tennessee.

The score of the Miss St game looks really bad too, but I understand a loss to them. The come from behind win against Auburn was a huge one for you guys, so that cancels out the Notre Dame loss I suppose. Ultimately, of Coach O isn't able to get to Atlanta within the next year or two, you'll be looking for a new coach again.
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Mississippi State was the game where personnel deficiencies were exposed. Unless Coach O could import 10+ defensive/offensive linemen during the 2017 off season - exactly what could he do? What can the AD? Oh, magic.

I don't know whether Coach O will work out, or the plan will work out... I feel without this coaching staff... this team would have been in some very serious trouble and probably not bowl eligible.

You are seriously in a rude awakening if you believe UT will magically turn everything around in one season, which is what you suggesting Coach O could do. It was very apparent against Mississippi State that is was going to be problem for LSU up front on both the OL/DL for the rest of the year.

Not exactly sure what Orgeron or the AD could do to be honest. Magic I guess.

There is no homerun hires, LSU did fairly well this year I thought, considered the lack of personnel up front - I don't know if Coach O will work out... but spending $100m+ for Jimbo and then still paying $3m for Aranda seems like the wrong direction, which is what TAM wanted/wants to do.

I'm fine with LSU losing, paying Jimbo money is insane. imo
 
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Geez whatever you say -- I hope the Chancellor gives Aviella a 10 year contract --- good luck
 
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508mikey said:
Geez whatever you say -- I hope the Chancellor gives Aviella a 10 year contract --- good luck
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I'm good with it. Wade looks like a good hire, but probably needs another year. Johnny Jones was not a good hire, but most of fans were on board at the time. Coach Oregron has a better record by quite a ways over the other people (Herman, Jimbo, and Fedora) who LSU was looking at. LSU has a good solid defensive coordinator, jury out on the offensive coordinator hire (Canada). My guess Canada will be gone, something I mentioned a few months ago. LSU doesn't have a special teams coach full-time, which probably needs to be remedied.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
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(why I don't pay for ESPN's stupid crap, look very closely at this amount of made up BS)

What did he botch? Les was under contract. LOL Its called ESPN, making waves. I guess that is what you are talking about. It was getting time for Les to go, if they could have gotten Jimbo for a reasonable price by the end of 2015... I was fine with it.... it was very apparent by game 1 in 2016 that Les had to go.



Coach O was the #3 choice, so....

Coach O actually has a much better record than all the target coaches including Jimbo, who had a losing record. Whether Coach O is the right hire is yet to be determined, but you haven't mentioned on or the price tag... you fans have no idea.



Actually compared to other coaches its not a huge buyout... it was still actually quite small. Lets just put this in perspective, Jimbo even after this year had a $40m buyout. LOL TAM just paid Sumlin well into his contract a $10m, not year 1.

Coach O's buyout is now $6m, and will be $3m after next year. There is nothing super high about this, TAM just threw the bank at a coach with a losing record last year, I don't like the money involved but in that context... no not high at all.



The Troy game happened, eventually that happens to every coach, and they played much better after. What does that have to do with the AD? LOL

Notre Dame is not a bad team, you are insane, they were ranked #14 for a reason.... bad is Tennessee football that is bad. Bad would have been if LSU lost to Tennessee.



Mississippi State was the game where personnel deficiencies were exposed. Unless Coach O could import 10+ defensive/offensive linemen during the 2017 off season - exactly what could he do? What can the AD? Oh, magic.

I don't know whether Coach O will work out, or the plan will work out... I feel without this coaching staff... this team would have been in some very serious trouble and probably not bowl eligible.

You are seriously in a rude awakening if you believe UT will magically turn everything around in one season, which is what you suggesting Coach O could do. It was very apparent against Mississippi State that is was going to be problem for LSU up front on both the OL/DL for the rest of the year.

Not exactly sure what Orgeron or the AD could do to be honest. Magic I guess.

There is no homerun hires, LSU did fairly well this year I thought, considered the lack of personnel up front - I don't know if Coach O will work out... but spending $100m+ for Jimbo and then still paying $3m for Aranda seems like the wrong direction, which is what TAM wanted/wants to do.

I'm fine with LSU losing, paying Jimbo money is insane. imo
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Whatever man. Jimbo had a losing record this year...he also had a national title and is 83-23 overall as a head coach. Looking at just this year is rather myopic.

As far as O's buyout, your figures aren't what I read. It'd cost you $8.5m to fire him this year. That's a rather hefty sum, especially for someone like Orgeron. And you'd still have Les's buyout to pay. Again, LSU was the only school interesting in hiring him. Why have such a big buyout?

For LSU fans calling for Ed Orgeron's head after loss to Troy, these are his contract details | LSU | theadvocate.com
 
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05_never_again said:
Whatever man. Jimbo had a losing record this year...he also had a national title and is 83-23 overall as a head coach. Looking at just this year is rather myopic.

As far as O's buyout, your figures aren't what I read. It'd cost you $8.5m to fire him this year. That's a rather hefty sum, especially for someone like Orgeron. And you'd still have Les's buyout to pay. Again, LSU was the only school interesting in hiring him. Why have such a big buyout?

For LSU fans calling for Ed Orgeron's head after loss to Troy, these are his contract details | LSU | theadvocate.com
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I was going to say he was smoking crack if he thought O's record was better than Jimbos. O has 3 seasons worse than Jimbos worst.

and the rest of Jimbo's seasons were all better than O's best.

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LSU-SIU said:
Actually its $9m now, I wouldn't expect Orgeron to be gone anytime soon unless he runs butt nekkid over the Tiger Eye during the middle of the game.
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LSU-SIU said:
Coach O's buyout is now $6m, and will be $3m after next year. There is nothing super high about this, TAM just threw the bank at a coach with a losing record last year, I don't like the money involved but in that context... no not high at all.
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sooooo which one is it? unless you cajuns count in some weird way...
 
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Aleva is an undeniably ****ty AD not just for the dumb stuff he’s done at LSU. He threw those duke lacrosse players under the bus and threw away their championship season based on absolutely bull**** accusations with zero evidence

**** that guy
 
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