Source: LSU DC Dave Aranda remains nation's top-paid assistant with new 4-year, $10M

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05_never_again said:
Whatever man. Jimbo had a losing record this year...he also had a national title and is 83-23 overall as a head coach. Looking at just this year is rather myopic.

As far as O's buyout, your figures aren't what I read. It'd cost you $8.5m to fire him this year. That's a rather hefty sum, especially for someone like Orgeron. And you'd still have Les's buyout to pay. Again, LSU was the only school interesting in hiring him. Why have such a big buyout?

For LSU fans calling for Ed Orgeron's head after loss to Troy, these are his contract details | LSU | theadvocate.com
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It was around $9m prior to the end of the year, its now next year. Its now $6m, and after this coming year it will be $3m.

Why have such a big buyout?

Because he was going to coach 2-4 years away, if they didn't give him a buyout... you would be first one to say he is going to be fired after every loss.... you could then get on ESPN. This is why discussion with fans who don't even understand this doesn't go anywhere and is one of the prime reasons UT had a hard time.

I think overall Coach O has done well, not great, he's 1.5 years in. LOL If I were to go off your statements a person would have thought LSU went 0-8 this year in the SEC.

I don't pretend to believe Coach O will be the greatest thing since apple pie but he is doing okay. I can say he has made changes when changes needed to be made.... he had done a great super job of getting DL/OL at LSU... that actually started last year.... I think it will be noticeable by next year. I would give Coach O a solid B at this point, the team is going to have to get better next year or the heat will start coming.

The problem is your lack of logic. You say the AD is the worst, I think for hiring Aranda for $2.5m.... but paying Jimbo $100m+ and then hiring Aranda for possibly even more money is good?

Literally, if I looked at your statement, you would think LSU was Tennessee this past season.... clearly their were deficiencies but no the wheels didn't fall off the bus. If you are going to blame people for losses, you have to acknowledge them for the wins... or the discussion goes into the pit of hate. You want a desired outcome.... and mean, we are not talking about where they are at... its where you want them to be.

So.... what we have is Coach O wins its someone else's win, if he loses well that is on him. You want a desired outcome. Les had to go, and yes, I think Coach O is/was an improvement. There is a reason why UT went through all this - the firing is the easy part.
 
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#27
#27
No way Coach, yaw, Yaw, yaw is the man to take them to the promised land.

The interview at the half of the bowl game was classic.

Coach yaw, yaw your team struggled a bit.
Yeah, we'll be better in the second half. Need to give Guice the ball more. We'll play better
 
#28
#28
LSU-SIU said:
It was around $9m prior to the end of the year, its now next year. Its now $6m, and after this coming year it will be $3m.

Why have such a big buyout?

Because he was going to coach 2-4 years away, if they didn't give him a buyout... you would be first one to say he is going to be fired after every loss.... you could then get on ESPN. This is why discussion with fans who don't even understand this doesn't go anywhere and is one of the prime reasons UT had a hard time.

I think overall Coach O has done well, not great, he's 1.5 years in. LOL If I were to go off your statements a person would have thought LSU went 0-8 this year in the SEC.

I don't pretend to believe Coach O will be the greatest thing since apple pie but he is doing okay. I can say he has made changes when changes needed to be made.... he had done a great super job of getting DL/OL at LSU... that actually started last year.... I think it will be noticeable by next year. I would give Coach O a solid B at this point, the team is going to have to get better next year or the heat will start coming.

The problem is your lack of logic. You say the AD is the worst, I think for hiring Aranda for $2.5m.... but paying Jimbo $100m+ and then hiring Aranda for possibly even more money is good?

Literally, if I looked at your statement, you would think LSU was Tennessee this past season.... clearly their were deficiencies but no the wheels didn't fall off the bus. If you are going to blame people for losses, you have to acknowledge them for the wins... or the discussion goes into the pit of hate. You want a desired outcome.... and mean, we are not talking about where they are at... its where you want them to be.

So.... what we have is Coach O wins its someone else's win, if he loses well that is on him. You want a desired outcome. Les had to go, and yes, I think Coach O is/was an improvement. There is a reason why UT went through all this - the firing is the easy part.
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it should still be 9 million this year (2018). 12 million was the first year (2017), after the contract was signed. this was his first season as head coach. it hasn't had a chance to drop twice. unless you are saying your AD put a 12 million buyout clause on an interim head coach while he was interim (2016), and that would so incredibly dumb that it wouldn't help with the dumbest AD contest.
 
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LouderVol said:
it should still be 9 million this year (2018). 12 million was the first year (2017), after the contract was signed. this was his first season as head coach. it hasn't had a chance to drop twice. unless you are saying your AD put a 12 million buyout clause on an interim head coach while he was interim (2016), and that would so incredibly dumb that it wouldn't help with the dumbest AD contest.
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My mistake:hi:, either way he is going to be there for few years. Literally his whole buyout would not have been even 1 year of Jimbo's buyout when it was created. Pretty small, TAM owes $10m in one check to Sumlin and he was already years into his contract. :) So, after year one LSU owes a lower buyout than TAM will be paying for Sumlin, oh and the rest of the coaching staff :)

Now if you want a discussion on high salaries and buyouts.... well, I don't condone any of this, but in the big scheme of things... its not a big buyout, meaning by the time he is 3-4 years into the contract it doesn't matter. Coach O's buyout will be less then what LSU owe Les Miles by next year or close to it.

Most of this is irrelevant as Coach O probably isn't going anywhere anyhow, as he done a decent job.

If you want to talk about costs you should be picking on TAM. LOL

I have no grand delusions that LSU is going to win Natty after Natty, but on the other hand... I haven't seen anything terrible... they need to get better... Coach O will have heat if there isn't a little more improvement this next year. I'm sure LSU would be happy if Les gets the Arizona job, either way Coach Orgeron and Aranda, I am fine with Canada but I could see that not working out based on what I know.

LSU needs to get better, but they weren't horrible all year although the season began on very shaky ground. I think Coach O has done a solid job, not sure what all the problem is about.

Jimbo's FSU contract was the definition of big buyout.... $50-60m at the beginning, if I remember correctly.

No way to Jimbo's crap.... rather lose with Coach O to be honest. LOL
 
#30
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LSU-SIU said:
My mistake:hi:, either way he is going to be there for few years. Literally his whole buyout would not have been even 1 year of Jimbo's buyout when it was created. Pretty small, TAM owes $10m in one check to Sumlin and he was already years into his contract. :) So, after year one LSU owes a lower buyout than TAM will be paying for Sumlin, oh and the rest of the coaching staff :)

Now if you want a discussion on high salaries and buyouts.... well, I don't condone any of this, but in the big scheme of things... its not a big buyout, meaning by the time he is 3-4 years into the contract it doesn't matter. Coach O's buyout will be less then what LSU owe Les Miles by next year or close to it.

Most of this is irrelevant as Coach O probably isn't going anywhere anyhow, as he done a decent job.

If you want to talk about costs you should be picking on TAM. LOL

I have no grand delusions that LSU is going to win Natty after Natty, but on the other hand... I haven't seen anything terrible... they need to get better... Coach O will have heat if there isn't a little more improvement this next year. I'm sure LSU would be happy if Les gets the Arizona job, either way Coach Orgeron and Aranda, I am fine with Canada but I could see that not working out based on what I know.

LSU needs to get better, but they weren't horrible all year although the season began on very shaky ground. I think Coach O has done a solid job, not sure what all the problem is about.

Jimbo's FSU contract was the definition of big buyout.... $50-60m at the beginning, if I remember correctly.

No way to Jimbo's crap.... rather lose with Coach O to be honest. LOL
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A&M is a private school with tons of money -- they can afford to spend on Fisher
 
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#34
LSU-SIU said:
My mistake:hi:, either way he is going to be there for few years. Literally his whole buyout would not have been even 1 year of Jimbo's buyout when it was created. Pretty small, TAM owes $10m in one check to Sumlin and he was already years into his contract. :) So, after year one LSU owes a lower buyout than TAM will be paying for Sumlin, oh and the rest of the coaching staff :)

Now if you want a discussion on high salaries and buyouts.... well, I don't condone any of this, but in the big scheme of things... its not a big buyout, meaning by the time he is 3-4 years into the contract it doesn't matter. Coach O's buyout will be less then what LSU owe Les Miles by next year or close to it.

Most of this is irrelevant as Coach O probably isn't going anywhere anyhow, as he done a decent job.

If you want to talk about costs you should be picking on TAM. LOL

I have no grand delusions that LSU is going to win Natty after Natty, but on the other hand... I haven't seen anything terrible... they need to get better... Coach O will have heat if there isn't a little more improvement this next year. I'm sure LSU would be happy if Les gets the Arizona job, either way Coach Orgeron and Aranda, I am fine with Canada but I could see that not working out based on what I know.

LSU needs to get better, but they weren't horrible all year although the season began on very shaky ground. I think Coach O has done a solid job, not sure what all the problem is about.

Jimbo's FSU contract was the definition of big buyout.... $50-60m at the beginning, if I remember correctly.

No way to Jimbo's crap.... rather lose with Coach O to be honest. LOL
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You don't remember correctly.

The large buyout was if FSU fired him without cause.

His actual buyout was the total amount of his assistants salaries.

The 2 amounts aren't even close to the same.
 
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