Space Exploration

Are NASA's future missions and budget justified?

  • It's worth the time and expenditures

    Votes: 223 66.0%

  • Complete waste of money

    Votes: 41 12.1%

  • We need to explore, but not at the current cost

    Votes: 74 21.9%
  • Total voters
    338
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Matt2496 said:
The fact that SpaceX's crew dragon has been to the ISS and back multiple times without hiccup, on a budget nearly half of Boeing has to work with, makes this botched mission even more embarrassing.
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True but the human rated version of Dragon has only been once but that went off flawless.
 
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I think it's a cool logo. And not to be corny but space is the final frontier. We will have to beat china and russia to colonize and take advantage of the resources there...some of which we cannot even imagine. Gold for example is very prevalent from what I understand beyond earth. What elements are there that we havent even discovered yet? What tech can they fuel or make possible? How can we terraform other planets like mars etc? These will prove important to us over time.

If you ain't 1st you're last ...as the modern day prophet Ricky Bobby once said.
 
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I haven't seen much on here about the new Space Force logo (maybe it's hidden in a thread somewhere?). I will admit to laughing when I first saw it and thinking it was a cheap knockoff of Star Trek. One of my Air Force buds kindly set me straight and now I think it's a well-done but of craftsmanship. The graphic explains where the design elements came from.FB_IMG_1580051631434.jpg
 
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Also, one of his friends who knows people involved in the design tossed in some explanation and shows that there's historical significance behind it as well. From one Jeremy Martin, who I don't know but I could learn a lot from:
While the new USSF emblem takes its main design from an evolution of the Air Force Space Command emblem, they are all derived from this one. This was the emblem for the 36th Tactical Wing, used by the Army Air Forces during World War 2. We weren't exploring space yet, but the wings were a nod to air flight, and the Delta symbol (that triangular thing) was used because it pointed upward and was easy to manufacture. When Nasa was founded in 1958, they derived their logo from this one.

The AF Space Command emblem was created when that MAJCOM was established in 1982, and it was based on a combination of this one and the Nasa design.

When Star Trek was being created in 1964 (by Gene Roddenberry, who had been an Air Force B-17 pilot during WW2), the Starfleet logo was designed by costume designer Bill Theiss. He also choose the Delta symbol for the same reason as the Air Force and Nasa: because of its upward point. At the time, that part of the logo was all he created.

The extravagant Starfleet "seal" - the one that our new USSF emblem is being compared to - was designed by Star Trek's technical designer Mike Okuda, who has essentially designed everything technical for the show since the beginning of The Next Generation series. Mike designed that elaborate Starfleet seal LONG after AF Space Command had been established, and was actually consulted for the design of the Space Force emblem. Although he wasn't involved in the design, I spoke with him last night and he actually enjoys seeing the deal beat such a striking resemblance, even though it is an evolution of existing designs.

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AshG said:
I haven't seen much on here about the new Space Force logo (maybe it's hidden in a thread somewhere?). I will admit to laughing when I first saw it and thinking it was a cheap knockoff of Star Trek. One of my Air Force buds kindly set me straight and now I think it's a well-done but of craftsmanship. The graphic explains where the design elements came from.View attachment 256664
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I'm glad the US will be going to Space big time once again:cool:
 
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AshG said:
I haven't seen much on here about the new Space Force logo (maybe it's hidden in a thread somewhere?). I will admit to laughing when I first saw it and thinking it was a cheap knockoff of Star Trek. One of my Air Force buds kindly set me straight and now I think it's a well-done but of craftsmanship. The graphic explains where the design elements came from.View attachment 256664
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Article Link: SpaceX requests permission to fly new Starship rocket on 12-mile-high test flight

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SpaceX requests permission to fly new Starship rocket on 12-mile-high test flight

The company wants the ability to fly as soon as March

SpaceX is already planning the next big test flight of its future Starship rocket out of southern Texas. As early as mid-March, the company is hoping to fly a test version of the vehicle to a super high altitude and then land it upright on solid ground, proving the rocket can be reused and potentially touch down on other worlds.

The upcoming test is detailed in new paperwork SpaceX filed with the Federal Communications Commission, which provides licensing to aerospace companies that are hoping to fly their vehicles to space. Specifically, the FCC allocates which radio frequencies companies can use to communicate with their vehicles during flight.

SpaceX notes in its filing that it wants special authority to communicate with its Starship rocket while the vehicle flies to an altitude of 12.4 miles or 20 kilometers — nearly halfway to the edge of space. Starship would take off from SpaceX’s test facility at Boca Chica, Texas, and the company would attempt to land the vehicle near the launch site using the rocket’s Raptor engines. SpaceX also plans to send data of the vehicle’s trajectory to both the Air Force and NASA............
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