Spike Rule

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I was watching the replay of the game and the announcers were talking about a new rule that you can't spike the ball if there are under three seconds on the play clock. Does anyone know anything about this? I'm not sure if it applies to a running play clock, stopped one, or both. We had three seconds left when Worley spiked it. :good!:
 
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Thats only if the clock was stopped prior to the spike.


You can spike on a running clock all the way to 1 second left
 
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Not if there were over 3 seconds when the clock began. Say, for example 10 second when the clock began then you can spike the 'ball @ 1 sec
 
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If the play clock is stopped at 2 seconds and your next play is a spike, you will have no time on the clock. They are saying that the spike play takes three seconds to run.

4 seconds on a stopped clock, then a spike play = 1 second remaining on the clock.
 
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Another point is that if Tennessee had committed a penalty on the spike (ie false start) then there would have been a 10 second run off and the game would have been over.
 
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My understanding of the rule is that you can't spike if the ball is "put into play by the refs" with less than 3 secs.

For example, the runner attempts to reach the sideline but is tackled inbounds with 8 seconds left. The ref runs the ball to the hash, places it and steps away with 2.5 seconds left. You better run a play because a spike attempt results in the game ending as a result of this rule.

It also applies to any situation where the clock is stopped with under 3 secs but the ref is going to whistle it back into motion. By rule, there is not time to run the spike play after the ref whistles the clock.

Neither of these is what Worley did. We're good by the rule.

AV
 
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Ainge explained this in detail on his show this morning... it is basically like calling a timeout at a certain time. If your standing next to the ref and say i want to call timeout at 2 seconds left.. then that's what you get...

Same thing with this play if they see you are standing there looking at the clock to spike it they are going to give it to you at the three seconds.. as long as everything goes right. If you fumble the snap or have some other problem at it, and it puts you under three seconds... then the rest of the time will run off and you will not get the kick opportunity.

Coaches know this rule and would have had worley prepped. its a good thing we didn't fumble snap or have a false start penalty etc.. or else we would have lost the game
 
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Hyams said on the post game that the ball cannot be spiked with 3 seconds or less on the clock. The ball was snapped with 4 maybe 5 seconds left and the clock ran down to 3. He said it was a new rule this year. Could have been bad though. I would have jumped from the upper deck to end it all
 
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Ainge explained this in detail on his show this morning... it is basically like calling a timeout at a certain time. If your standing next to the ref and say i want to call timeout at 2 seconds left.. then that's what you get...

Same thing with this play if they see you are standing there looking at the clock to spike it they are going to give it to you at the three seconds.. as long as everything goes right. If you fumble the snap or have some other problem at it, and it puts you under three seconds... then the rest of the time will run off and you will not get the kick opportunity.

Coaches know this rule and would have had worley prepped. its a good thing we didn't fumble snap or have a false start penalty etc.. or else we would have lost the game

Ainge is wrong. Count in this thread is correct
 
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Another point is that if Tennessee had committed a penalty on the spike (ie false start) then there would have been a 10 second run off and the game would have been over.

That would have happened to us last year or the previous 2 years! THOSE DAYS ARE GONE! Glory!
 
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Hyams said on the post game that the ball cannot be spiked with 3 seconds or less on the clock. The ball was snapped with 4 maybe 5 seconds left and the clock ran down to 3. Could have been bad though. I would have jumped from the upper deck to end it all

Hyams acknowledged his mistake today on his show.
 
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Another point is that if Tennessee had committed a penalty on the spike (ie false start) then there would have been a 10 second run off and the game would have been over.

For this very reason, all last minute field goals should have the ball snapped at 15sec on the clock. NOT 3sec! One player accidentally false starts or lines up wrong and the game is automatically over. Who cares if you have to follow it up with a kickoff.
 
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For this very reason, all last minute field goals should have the ball snapped at 15sec on the clock. NOT 3sec! One player accidentally false starts or lines up wrong and the game is automatically over. Who cares if you have to follow it up with a kickoff.

Yea, who cares that the other team gets a chance to score. Lighten up Francis. If this team can't even sit still to burn clock, bring Dooley back. I can't believe so many of yall are worked up over this. I thought Neyland stadium was going to collectively have a heart attack over the team doing the only logical play.
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Yea, who cares that the other team gets a chance to score. Lighten up Francis. If this team can't even sit still to burn clock, bring Dooley back. I can't believe so many of yall are worked up over this. I thought Neyland stadium was going to collectively have a heart attack over the team doing the only logical play.
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15 second field goal attempt, runs off about 5 seconds, kick the ball out of the endzone, give them the ball on the 25, and they basically get 1 hail mary...
 
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15 second field goal attempt, runs off about 5 seconds, kick the ball out of the endzone, give them the ball on the 25, and they basically get 1 hail mary...

yeah but things can happen....look at 2002 LSU vs Kentucky....UK had that game won, except on that last throw....take as much time off the clock as possible. If the team isn't mentally sound not to false start or cause a penalty..then they dont deserve to win
 
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15 second field goal attempt, runs off about 5 seconds, kick the ball out of the endzone, give them the ball on the 25, and they basically get 1 hail mary...


Depending on time outs, they might get in three plays...which could possibly lead to a FG.

So spike the ball at 11 seconds....then what you say is probably true.
 
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For this very reason, all last minute field goals should have the ball snapped at 15sec on the clock. NOT 3sec! One player accidentally false starts or lines up wrong and the game is automatically over. Who cares if you have to follow it up with a kickoff.

What about 11 seconds?

Only 10 seconds can be run off the clock on a penalty. That leaves 1 sec left
 
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I laugh at the guys second guessing a coaches decision that won us the game

Its like complaining you only got to bang Kate Upton one time
 
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I laugh at the guys second guessing a coaches decision that won us the game

Its like complaining you only got to bang Kate Upton one time

We have just forgotten what it's like to not need to complain about the coaching. It's a hard habit to break.
 
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On this sort of note.....

Did anyone else pause for a few seconds after the field goal went thru just to make sure we had actually won? To many bad last second debacles over the past few years made me hesitate!!!

GO VOLS!
 
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On this sort of note.....

Did anyone else pause for a few seconds after the field goal went thru just to make sure we had actually won? To many bad last second debacles over the past few years made me hesitate!!!

GO VOLS!

I was looking for a flag for about 10 seconds. Even when the bench was cleared and people were celebrating, I still thought one might get thrown.
 
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I thought they changed it because UNC spiked it with 19 guys on the field & nobody was remotely set & the penalty gave them a free kick.
 
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I was looking for a flag for about 10 seconds. Even when the bench was cleared and people were celebrating, I still thought one might get thrown.

If this would have happened, we would have had to come up with bail money for CBJ. He woulda killed a ref.
 

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