Spring Meetings

#27
#27
This came up today on twitter from Sporting News's Matt Hayes; not sure the full (if any) validity of it yet though:

Matt Hayes ‏@Matt_HayesSN 7h
Look for SEC to bridge with 2014 schedule of 8, and move toward 9 games beginning 2015.
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#29
#29
We have Sooners and USC in the future.....we don't need a 9 game SEC schedule. The SEC already has some of the toughest schedules in the country, why make it harder?

While Ohio St. and other teams will go undefeated while playing 2-3 tough games all year.
 
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#30
#30
We all know that if you add a 9th game>>for teams rebuilding its a long rebuild>>Look at UT and the loss of CLK good bad or ugly it started a down slide in our coaching ranks and recruiting, you just cant miss that many years and recover..
 
#31
#31
volnpowell said:
Anything interesting mentioned yet? I did not get to hear what Jimmy Hyams said. I figured Jimmy is not good for most info, but he should be able to relay what was told at meeting. :)
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Yes, it is interesting that in 2015, we will go to a 9 game S.E.C. schedule. Which means that we will drop a powder puff, non conference game from our schedule.

So, we could see our schedule get more difficult. Hell, even an 8 win season would be hard to accomplish
 
#32
#32
Guys the times - free press has an article on the meetings, like I always say , check that paper daily ! :hi:
lord saban has spoken, he's for the nine game SEC schedule.
 
#33
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ItsAllVols said:
We all know that if you add a 9th game>>for teams rebuilding its a long rebuild>>Look at UT and the loss of CLK good bad or ugly it started a down slide in our coaching ranks and recruiting, you just cant miss that many years and recover..
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So are you saying Tennessee can't become a strong program again?:censored::finger3::whatever:
 
#34
#34
So apparently, according to this article from MrSEC, Slive has already come out and said 2014 will be an 8-game, bridge schedule setup (which of course, was almost certainly expected) and that 2015 will "probably" be an 8 game schedule as well.

Also while Saban is clearly the largest proponent among the coaches for such, James Franklin is apparently its staunchest/most verbal opponent.

SEC To Stay With 8-Game Schedule In 2014, “Probably” In 2015 Too

SEC commissioner Mike Slive announced yesterday what everyone expected to him to announced — that his league would head into 2014 with an eight-game conference schedule and a 6-1-1 format. He also said that the 2015 season will “probably” use the same plan.

“Probably” being the key word.

As we’ve noted on numerous occasions, if SEC officials find themselves being snubbed by the College Football Playoff selection committee for strength of schedule reasons, they’ll vote to go to nine games ASAP. If SEC officials see an opportunity to improve attendance and/or make more money by going to nine games, again, they’ll do it.

As for Slive, he says nothing will happen until Friday at the earliest:



“I do want to tell you in capital letters that the First Amendment is alive and well… I just came out of the football coaches’ meeting and we had a healthy discussion there. They’re gonna continue that discussion tomorrow. We had a discussion with our ADs and we’ll continue to have discussions throughout the week. I certainly don’t believe we’ll come to any closure here, but my hope is that everybody will weigh in on the discussion. We’ll see where we are by Friday as to what the next step is.”



There is little chance of a nine-game schedule passing for 2015, 2016 or any other year by Friday. But that didn’t keep a pair of coaches from sounding off on the league’s scheduling issues yesterday.

Alabama’s Nick Saban got plenty of national publicity for once again pushing the SEC toward a nine-game SEC slate:



“You talk about trying to create some kind of strength of schedule (component). That’s difficult to do when we have six teams at the end of the season last year in the top 10 and other teams that are vying to get into the (BCS) championship game. Then to think the team that loses (the SEC) championship game wouldn’t have gotten in the final four if we had one. That’s not taking strength of schedule into consideration at all. It’s taking how many games you lose into consideration. But I think if we all played more good opponents, you could lost more games and still have a chance to get recognized as being a good team.”



While Saban has been the most vocal proponent of a nine-game conference schedule, Vanderbilt’s James Franklin has been the loudest opponent. That was true yesterday as well:



“Every coach, every administration wants the best out-of-conference schedule they possibly can have. But why should somebody else dictate to us what that is? Nobody knows what’s in the best interest of Vanderbilt, and I would argue what’s in the best interest of Vanderbilt is in the best interest of the SEC and so on and so forth…

We’ll go to nine and people will say, ‘We don’t have enough sexy out-of-conference games anymore so you’re going to have to play nine and another.’ When’s it going to stop? Two years from now they’re going to say, ‘You know, we probably ought to schedule an NFL team. You’re probably going to have to play the Jets. You’re going to have to play the Falcons.’ Now we’re going to play nine games and an NFL team. When’s it going to end?”



Amazingly that wasn’t even Franklin’s biggest spin of the day. He also suggested that an extra conference game would be bad for players’ health:



“It’s funny that we’re also talking about player welfare and health. Well, now you’re going to play another game like that a year. Couldn’t you bring up player health and safety for those games?… I think you just have to be careful that the things we’re saying are consistent.”



Now that’s a spin cycle.

For the time being, expect to see SEC teams playing an eight-game schedule in 2014 and 2015. After that, we suspect the league will move to a nine-game format. Whether the league’s teams will be forced to play the Jets or Falcons remains to be seen.
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#37
#37
99gator said:
coaches voted 13-1 to keep 8 game schedule
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Final vote is with the presidents though; this is more of a straw poll (this was mentioned in another thread)

However it's felt that the presidents don't have enough votes for it (supposedly 5 for, 5 against, 4 undecided), so they most likely won't call for a vote on it at this year's meetings.
 
#38
#38
the ironic thing is that les miles obviously voted against this and a 9 game schedule gives you better odds that schedules are more evenly balanced.
 
#39
#39
I look at this way> Sabens view is really thru recruiting more than anything< He recruits or as CDD said "he drafts" and gets the first 25 picks of the draft, if the SEC went to 9 game schedule then the only thing is left is coaching ability and players > Were as he knows that there is still a talent pool that goes to the likes of Michigan, Ohio State, Oregon, Norte Dame, and the few teams he is looking at scheduling because of the 8 game SEC. The win vs loss is going to effect the playoff for the sec, if Bama plays outside the SEC and looses then they could miss the playoff game > Believe me the 9 game SEC is only good for Bama or Nicky wouldn't be pushing it, the bad part of the 9 game SEC schedule will hurt teams that goes thru a coach change and a rebuilding process. CNS is not worried about anyone but CNS, sure the Fans would benefit but CNS could also loose a chance at the SEC payoff and NC. DONT BE FOOLED
 
#40
#40
SEC presidents vote to keep schedule at 8 games for 2 more years; will then review future scheduling starting in 2016

To nobody's surprise, the SEC has decided to stick with eight conference games for 2014 and 2015, but the presidents and chancellors will then review future scheduling beginning in 2016.

The translation: By 2016, the SEC will be playing nine conference games.

That was the vibe all week at the SEC spring meetings in talking with coaches and athletic directors, and it's clear that SEC commissioner Mike Slive wants to see schools upgrade their schedules. Slive was careful not to come out and say it, but most in and around the league agree that he's in favor of going to nine conference games.

And, typically, what Slive wants, he gets.

He was on the record this week as saying that he's communicated very clearly to SEC schools that he wants to see them schedule more attractive nonconference games. Down the road, what you're probably going to see is SEC schools playing nine conference games and then one marquee game out of conference.

Or as Alabama athletic director Bill Battle said, "Ten good games."

But in the short term, what's it all mean in terms of who will play whom?

The format will remain 6-1-1. Schools will play everybody in their division, one permanent cross-divisional opponent and one rotating cross-divisional opponent.

A few of the permanent opponents will change. For example, South Carolina and Texas A&M will be paired up, while Arkansas and Missouri will be paired up. In the past, Arkansas and South Carolina were permanent cross-divisional foes.

At least through 2015, LSU and Florida will continue to play every year as permanent cross-divisional foes. LSU has been pushing to do away with permanent cross-divisional opponents and wants to see everybody play two rotating opponents from the other division. LSU coach Les Miles argues that doing it that way makes the schedule more balanced for everybody in the league.

To his point, in their last 10 meetings, both Florida and LSU were ranked in the top 25 of the coaches' poll nine times.

Slive said the 2014 schedule would be released in a matter of weeks.

The league had already approved a rotation based on a 6-1-1 format through 2026. As part of that rotation, Alabama is scheduled to face Georgia in 2014 and Florida in 2015.

Also, the Alabama versus Tennessee and Auburn versus Georgia rivalries will continue to be played on a yearly basis, at least until the league reassesses its scheduling beginning in 2016.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/64897/sec-staying-at-eight-for-two-more-years
 
#41
#41
“They’ve got a good coach now,” Saban said of Butch Jones, which should make former Saban assistant Derrick Dooley feel three feet tall. “They’ve got great tradition. They’re going to be good again.”

Saban gets it.
 
#42
#42
99gator said:
the ironic thing is that les miles obviously voted against this and a 9 game schedule gives you better odds that schedules are more evenly balanced.
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Because that's not his actual complaint; Les's real issue is that they have to play Florida each year, a team he's been having trouble being successful against (he's 4-4 against them in his 8 years at LSU)

October 15, 2005 Baton Rouge, LA LSU 21–17
October 7, 2006 Gainesville, FL Florida 23–10
October 6, 2007 Baton Rouge, LA LSU 28–24
October 11, 2008 Gainesville, FL Florida 51–21
October 10, 2009 Baton Rouge, LA Florida 13–3
October 9, 2010 Gainesville, FL LSU 33–29
October 8, 2011 Baton Rouge, LA LSU 41–11
October 6, 2012 Gainesville, FL Florida 14–6
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#43
#43
TrueOrange said:
Because that's not his actual complaint; Les's real issue is that they have to play Florida each year, a team he's been having trouble being successful against (he's 4-4 against them in his 8 years at LSU)
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Les needs to get over it, last time I checked we played Bama and UF every year as well...
 
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