Staffs Recruiting Strength

[G-boro Vol]

Do we know which coach was the primary recruiter for each player committed this year? I know Garner is our strongest recruiter but how do the other coach's stack up? I think Mack may be our weakest on the staff. It is hard to grasp why we can't attract an elite RB with how much our offence actually runs the ball. I'm not saying Keith is not a good RB but if you are in Alabama and Bama nor Auburn recruit you hard then, no disrespect just fact. Whoever wins the recruiting wars/rankings normally wins the championships over the last 10+ years. Opinions Thoughts?

Garner, then Heupel, then????

 

[Brawlvol]

They all do very well, hence top 10 ranking

 

[BigALWiLson]

Sampson has the ability to be elite

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Do we know which coach was the primary recruiter for each player committed this year? I know Garner is our strongest recruiter but how do the other coach's stack up? I think Mack may be our weakest on the staff. It is hard to grasp why we can't attract an elite RB with how much our offence actually runs the ball. I'm not saying Keith is not a good RB but if you are in Alabama and Bama nor Auburn recruit you hard then, no disrespect just fact. Whoever wins the recruiting wars/rankings normally wins the championships over the last 10+ years. Opinions Thoughts?

Garner, then Heupel, then????

Going 10-2 appears to have helped.

 

[FlyFishnVol]

Do we know which coach was the primary recruiter for each player committed this year? I know Garner is our strongest recruiter but how do the other coach's stack up? I think Mack may be our weakest on the staff. It is hard to grasp why we can't attract an elite RB with how much our offence actually runs the ball. I'm not saying Keith is not a good RB but if you are in Alabama and Bama nor Auburn recruit you hard then, no disrespect just fact. Whoever wins the recruiting wars/rankings normally wins the championships over the last 10+ years. Opinions Thoughts?

Garner, then Heupel, then????

Consistency and Ws are the best-recruiting tools. I read an article a couple of years ago that claimed most recruits commit to their favorite teams. Tennessee's job of making our last 15 years disappear with performance and cultivating a fan base that supports the school. You can't just go from the Top 15 to the Top 5 in two seasons. Regardless of the coaching staff.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Consistency and Ws are the best-recruiting tools. I read an article a couple of years ago that claimed most recruits commit to their favorite teams. Tennessee's job of making our last 15 years disappear with performance and cultivating a fan base that supports the school. You can't just go from the Top 15 to the Top 5 in two seasons. Regardless of the coaching staff.

Is that trout pic in your avatar from the Clinch?

 

[VolNash17]

Consistency and Ws are the best-recruiting tools. I read an article a couple of years ago that claimed most recruits commit to their favorite teams. Tennessee's job of making our last 15 years disappear with performance and cultivating a fan base that supports the school. You can't just go from the Top 15 to the Top 5 in two seasons. Regardless of the coaching staff.

I would argue you could go get top 5 classes in two seasons. It’s been done at places with new staffs many times previously including recently. But I agree on much of what you said

 

[MarcoVol]

Do we know which coach was the primary recruiter for each player committed this year? I know Garner is our strongest recruiter but how do the other coach's stack up? I think Mack may be our weakest on the staff. It is hard to grasp why we can't attract an elite RB with how much our offence actually runs the ball. I'm not saying Keith is not a good RB but if you are in Alabama and Bama nor Auburn recruit you hard then, no disrespect just fact. Whoever wins the recruiting wars/rankings normally wins the championships over the last 10+ years. Opinions Thoughts?

Garner, then Heupel, then????

According to 247:

Nico - Halze
Herring - Ekeler
Leacock - Pope
Carter - BJM
Matthews - Martinez
Umarov - Elarbee
Gibson - Martinez
J. Smith - BJM
Robinson - Golesh, Garner (S)
Conyer - Martinez
Slaughter - Banks
Johnson - Elarbee
Telander - BJM
Lang - Elarbee
Luttrell - Martinez
Hobbs - Garner
Bradley - Ekeler
Seldon - Pope
Davis - Golesh, BJM (S)
Weathersby - Garner
Keith - Mack
Duncan - Elarbee
Bussell - Elarbee
Spilman - Pope
Bishop - Mack

If you go by 247 coaching recruiting rankings:

- Willie Martinez
- BJM
- Pope
- Elarbee
- Garner
- Ekeler
- Banks
- Mack

These rankings are based on total points (just like the class rankings) and not player avg rating.

 

[peaygolf]

Good people and NIL

 

[sjt18]

Do we know which coach was the primary recruiter for each player committed this year? I know Garner is our strongest recruiter but how do the other coach's stack up? I think Mack may be our weakest on the staff. It is hard to grasp why we can't attract an elite RB with how much our offence actually runs the ball. I'm not saying Keith is not a good RB but if you are in Alabama and Bama nor Auburn recruit you hard then, no disrespect just fact. Whoever wins the recruiting wars/rankings normally wins the championships over the last 10+ years. Opinions Thoughts?

Garner, then Heupel, then????

I've said in other places that this class depends on how good the 3* players are. This staff isn't "following". They took commits very early from guys the recruiting sites pretty much hate... and haven't wavered. So either they found some things others missed... or this class was a step in the wrong direction.

What can hardly be denied is that this staff isn't being swayed by the opinions of 247 or even other top programs. They really didn't seem to make a big effort to get in on the Manning derby. They targeted Nico and apparently believed that he was the best QB in the country.

As far as Keith is concerned, I'm somewhat confused as well as to why UT cannot attract highly rated RB's. It would seem that one look at the opportunity to put up huge numbers would have them standing in line.

OTOH, they liked Sampson and took Williams. Sampson is a star in the making. Williams somehow didn't "fit". Maybe their success profile and that used by the recruiting sites and others aren't the same?

 

[Vols410]

I've said in other places that this class depends on how good the 3* players are. This staff isn't "following". They took commits very early from guys the recruiting sites pretty much hate... and haven't wavered. So either they found some things others missed... or this class was a step in the wrong direction.

What can hardly be denied is that this staff isn't being swayed by the opinions of 247 or even other top programs. They really didn't seem to make a big effort to get in on the Manning derby. They targeted Nico and apparently believed that he was the best QB in the country.

As far as Keith is concerned, I'm somewhat confused as well as to why UT cannot attract highly rated RB's. It would seem that one look at the opportunity to put up huge numbers would have them standing in line.

OTOH, they liked Sampson and took Williams. Sampson is a star in the making. Williams somehow didn't "fit". Maybe their success profile and that used by the recruiting sites and others aren't the same?

I think there are definitely things they value in certain positions that a lot of teams (and the recruiting services especially) may put less of a premium on, largely due to the peculiarities of the offense. OL need to be smart/nimble where the services tend to prioritize big/strong since those show up in camps. They also seem to put a lot of emphasis on pass protection from the RB's. Don't expect to see lots of highly rated OL going forward but I have 0 worries regarding this staff's ability to find exactly what they're looking for to fit their scheme on that side of the ball.

Defensively, the services seem to agree and really like our class. Love the edge guys and DB's we have coming in, and both of those fit the staff's desire to bring havoc, force turnovers, and get more possessions on offense.

Overall, it's really good to see the staff recruit to fit the scheme. You need athletic ability and we're getting that too, but the system you put them in is important to, and they're working their butts off to find good scheme and culture fits.

 

[sjt18]

I think there are definitely things they value in certain positions that a lot of teams (and the recruiting services especially) may put less of a premium on, largely due to the peculiarities of the offense. OL need to be smart/nimble where the services tend to prioritize big/strong since those show up in camps. They also seem to put a lot of emphasis on pass protection from the RB's. Don't expect to see lots of highly rated OL going forward but I have 0 worries regarding this staff's ability to find exactly what they're looking for to fit their scheme on that side of the ball.

Defensively, the services seem to agree and really like our class. Love the edge guys and DB's we have coming in, and both of those fit the staff's desire to bring havoc, force turnovers, and get more possessions on offense.

Overall, it's really good to see the staff recruit to fit the scheme. You need athletic ability and we're getting that too, but the system you put them in is important to, and they're working their butts off to find good scheme and culture fits.

Agree generally but I was specifically thinking of D commits. Telander was a highly productive player on a very successful team in one of the most competitive divisions of HSFB in the country. They slapped him with 3*. Smith is similar with 247 finally showing him some respect though he was a tackle machine who won his region's player of the year award.

Robinson, Slaughter, Conyer, Luttrell, Lang, Duncan... all guys that will or may end up on D for the Vols that the recruiting sites didn't like much.

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

We have a top 10 class in year 2 and we have momentum. I expect we will do even better next year. Looking forward to seeing how this class develops. We did well on D I believe and also a top quarterback on some good O line prospects I believe. GBO

 

[MarcoVol]

Agree generally but I was specifically thinking of D commits. Telander was a highly productive player on a very successful team in one of the most competitive divisions of HSFB in the country. They slapped him with 3*. Smith is similar with 247 finally showing him some respect though he was a tackle machine who won his region's player of the year award.

Robinson, Slaughter, Conyer, Luttrell, Lang, Duncan... all guys that will or may end up on D for the Vols that the recruiting sites didn't like much.

Not trying to poo on the rest of your post but 247’s rankings did not give Smith love. 3* on there.

He was a 4* on their composite bc on Rivals he was a top 300 player and # 15 LB in the country.

 

[LittleVol]

Do we know which coach was the primary recruiter for each player committed this year? I know Garner is our strongest recruiter but how do the other coach's stack up? I think Mack may be our weakest on the staff. It is hard to grasp why we can't attract an elite RB with how much our offence actually runs the ball. I'm not saying Keith is not a good RB but if you are in Alabama and Bama nor Auburn recruit you hard then, no disrespect just fact. Whoever wins the recruiting wars/rankings normally wins the championships over the last 10+ years. Opinions Thoughts?

Garner, then Heupel, then????

Quinshun Judkins led the SEC in rushing as a freshman for Ole Miss. He was from Alabama. 3 star no Auburn or Bama offer.

What's up with that??

 

[TrippieRedd]

Quinshun Judkins led the SEC in rushing as a freshman for Ole Miss. He was from Alabama. 3 star no Auburn or Bama offer.

What's up with that??

brodie is a monstarrrr

 

[sjt18]

Not trying to poo on the rest of your post but 247’s rankings did not give Smith love. 3* on there.


He was a 4* on their composite bc on Rivals he was a top 300 player and # 15 LB in the country.

I think that's what I saw.

 

[NighthawkVol]

Quinshun Judkins led the SEC in rushing as a freshman for Ole Miss. He was from Alabama. 3 star no Auburn or Bama offer.

What's up with that??

Squirrel White isn’t a star yet, but he played as a freshman and should be very productive next year.

 

[Ratvol]

Coach Nil ChaChing $ recruited very well. Should at least get an assist.

Go VOLS

 

[FlyFishnVol]

Is that trout pic in your avatar from the Clinch?

Dream Stream, South Park CO.

 

[FlyFishnVol]

I would argue you could go get top 5 classes in two seasons. It’s been done at places with new staffs many times previously including recently. But I agree on much of what you said

Thank you, UT is on the right path.

 

[Hank Bukowski]

I would argue you could go get top 5 classes in two seasons. It’s been done at places with new staffs many times previously including recently. But I agree on much of what you said

Yeah, but Hugh Freeze got caught, didn’t he?

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

We have a top 10 class in year 2 and we have momentum. I expect we will do even better next year. Looking forward to seeing how this class develops. We did well on D I believe and also a top quarterback on some good O line prospects I believe. GBO

The next step is a top 5 class, hopefully to include a homerun threat @ tailback.

 

[keenobserver]

Sampson has the ability to be elite

^^^

Totally agree. Sampson should be RB1 next season. If Wright can eliminate fumbling, he'll be RB2 imo. Small is more solid in pass pro than both and I believe the staff trusts him more, which is a legit reason to give him more reps. I think its obvious with our own eyes who is more explosive and has more burst.

 

[G-boro Vol]

Squirrel White isn’t a star yet, but he played as a freshman and should be very productive next year.

I agree he has shown flashes and is super-fast but man it makes me nervous when he has the ball. Because he is not very big and if someone ever gets a good hit on him, will he survive.