Starting line up for 06

#26
#26
Originally posted by OrangeUAVol?@Nov 21, 2005 5:30 PM
Great...

               UNLV:  10 of 17 for 118 yds.
             Florida:  16 of 24 for 192 yds.
            La Tech:  10 of 15 for 198 yds.
            Auburn:   17 of 35 for 173 yds. (4 INTs)
Georgia:  12 of 21 for 150 yds.    
           Ole Miss:  14 of 30 for 231 yds.
           Alabama: 10 of 22 for 132 yds.
                 S.C.:  9 of 16 for 109 yds.

All the Ainge supporters (including Ainge) have hung their hat on the fact that HE beat Georgia last year.  Given that our offense only managed 2 TD's, I'd have to give that win to our defense for holding Ga to only 14. 

I think I might be the only fan who was nervous about this year before it ever started, and a big reason for that nervousness was Ainge's inconsistancy during his Freshman year that everyone thought was so stellar.
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THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS! Good gracious I have had a hard time getting anywhere with this line of thinking. The revisionist history out there is a mile deep where Ainge is concerned.
 
#28
#28
Originally posted by mattvols@Nov 21, 2005 11:15 AM
I disagree at DT it will be McDaniel and McGlothlin, McGlothlin is the 3rd DT right now and is playing more than any of the other 2nd team guys, everyone is forgetting about him.
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Is McGlothlin still on the team?
I can't find him listed.
 
#29
#29
Originally posted by JPTurtle@Nov 21, 2005 10:53 AM
QB - Crompton
RB - Foster
FB - Holbert
TE - Brown
WR - Meachem, Swain, Smith
DE - Reynolds, Mitchell
DT - McBride, McDaniel
OLB - Mayo, McCoy
MLB - Karl
CB - Wade, Johnson
FS - Heffney
SS - Morley
KR - Taylor

This could be a good team. Just need to get hot early.  Crompton will be superstar!
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Harrell?
 
#30
#30
Isn't Antwan Stewart one of with Bill Battle's recruits?

Seems like he's been at UT longer than Teddy Gaines who retired a couple of years ago.
 
#32
#32
After seeing what happened to Jason Allen, I wouldn't blame anybody that thought they would be a mid-rounder for leaving.
 
#33
#33
Originally posted by OrangeUAVol?@Nov 21, 2005 5:30 PM
All the Ainge supporters (including Ainge) have hung their hat on the fact that HE beat Georgia last year.  Given that our offense only managed 2 TD's, I'd have to give that win to our defense for holding Ga to only 14. 

I think I might be the only fan who was nervous about this year before it ever started, and a big reason for that nervousness was Ainge's inconsistancy during his Freshman year that everyone thought was so stellar.  3 of the 8 games he played before his injury, his completion percentage was under 50%. 
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So you're telling me you'd expect more from someone walking into campus with no knowledge of the system, master it in its entirety, and then running up stats higher than this? You expect quite a lot from a freshman walking into a situation like that. Inconsistent? Flipping QBs like they did this year does wonders for overall stats as well. You gotta do a lot better and give a better example if you want to discredit someone. This is about the worst example in slamming a freshman QB I've seen.
 
#34
#34
Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 23, 2005 12:04 AM
So you're telling me you'd expect more from someone walking into campus with no knowledge of the system, master it in its entirety, and then running up stats higher than this? You expect quite a lot from a freshman walking into a situation like that. Inconsistent? Flipping QBs like they did this year does wonders for overall stats as well. You gotta do a lot better and give a better example if you want to discredit someone. This is about the worst example in slamming a freshman QB I've seen.
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Read- Brian Brohm, or John Navarre...

Yes, these days that can be expected.
 
#35
#35
Originally posted by rwemyss@Nov 23, 2005 12:06 AM
Read- Brian Brohm, or John Navarre...

Yes, these days that can be expected.
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Brohm's numbers were a lot less than Ainge's and Brohm had a weak conference and weak schedule.
 
#36
#36
He also played behind a senior QB all season.

He certainly hasn't had the sophomore slump of Ainge... although Navarre's numbers are down this year... they(Michigan) have also had a rough season, albeit not as bad as the Vols.
 
#37
#37
PASSING G Effic Att-Cmp-Int Pct Yds TD Lng
Navarre 10 147.24 77-40-1 51.9 583 8 58 Brohm 11 153.51 98-66-2 67.3 819 6
Ainge 9 135.89 198-109-9 55.1 1452 17 60
 
#38
#38
Originally posted by rwemyss@Nov 23, 2005 12:24 AM
He certainly hasn't had the sophomore slump of Ainge... although Navarre's numbers are down this year... they(Michigan) have also had a rough season, albeit not as bad as the Vols.
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This year? Navarre's already graduated. And in the pros. You mean Henne?
 
#39
#39
OH YEAH! That kid. Those yankee players from Michigan are all the same to me. My apologies. Henne is the one I'm talking about. Change every time I said Navarre to Henne.
 
#41
#41
Originally posted by rwemyss@Nov 23, 2005 12:30 AM
OH YEAH!  That kid.  Those yankee players from Michigan are all the same to me.  My apologies.  Henne is the one I'm talking about.  Change every time I said Navarre to Henne.
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I'd say Henne is alot more comparable to Ainge on freshman year than Brohm. Henne's stats are paced to be less than last year. Not exactly meltdown numbers but he's having a slump comparatively speaking. Look at the pros' stats. Look at Vicks and Favres. Everyone has meltdowns. But you can't pin poor performance all on Ainge either. Where was Riggs? Where were the WRs? You can try and pin the whole leadership role concept on Ainge but Clausen did just as poorly. it's the entire offense. Not just one player. Blaming Ainge and his meltdown for this awful season is denying the true problems that continue to exist without him on the field.
 
#42
#42
hehehe Funny named Michigan QB slipup... at least I didn't call the kid Brady or Henson...
 
#43
#43
Originally posted by tidwell@Nov 23, 2005 12:36 AM
:lol:

I kept reading this thinking, "Navarre?  Are we in a time warp here?"
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Take Navarre out of the discussion and I'd say we were....just on OUR season we're having. Didn't we lose five in a row at the beginning of Majors' last year? Role reversal with us losing this many at the END of this season?
 
#44
#44
I certainly agree that the entire offense is to blame for their poor play... I can't even count the number of balls that have been on Meachem's hands... but you can't give EA a free pass either and say that he'll grow out of it. Something is truly wrong with his mechanics.
 
#45
#45
Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 23, 2005 12:47 AM
Take Navarre out of the discussion and I'd say we were....just on OUR season we're having. Didn't we lose five in a row at the beginning of Majors' last year? Role reversal with us losing this many at the END of this season?
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Yeah, and they ran the table to end it, and took that momentum on to have a great year the next year. I thought we were supposed to have some sort of momentum after the Cotton Bowl last year too... that didn't quite pan out.

I don't even know anymore.
 
#46
#46
Originally posted by rwemyss@Nov 23, 2005 12:49 AM
I certainly agree that the entire offense is to blame for their poor play... I can't even count the number of balls that have been on Meachem's hands... but you can't give EA a free pass either and say that he'll grow out of it.  Something is truly wrong with his mechanics.
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Oh I'm not giving him a pass. He's played lousy and I've said that from the beginning. I just think the talent is there. he showed great skills last year all things considered. Obviously something's happened between the injury and the first game. I think with a good OC, he like so many other meltdown candidates can be redeemed. He may tank next year as well. But I will not write him off until I see a good OC come in here and train him right. Perhaps Peyton's conversations have messed him up. Big shoes to fill or something. Who knows.
 
#47
#47
Originally posted by rwemyss@Nov 23, 2005 12:52 AM
I don't even know anymore.
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That's been my thought. We can all speculate, prognosticate or any other -ate but at this point we've all been proven wrong and had high hopes dashed so many times, it's pointless to even say any more. :mf_surrender:
 
#48
#48
Its easier for me to put my hopes in JC because he hasn't even been on the field yet. He may be the next great pocket passer, and we just don't know it yet. EA OTOH has shown a completely different side than he showed last year.
 
#49
#49
Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 23, 2005 12:04 AM
So you're telling me you'd expect more from someone walking into campus with no knowledge of the system, master it in its entirety, and then running up stats higher than this? You expect quite a lot from a freshman walking into a situation like that. Inconsistent? Flipping QBs like they did this year does wonders for overall stats as well. You gotta do a lot better and give a better example if you want to discredit someone. This is about the worst example in slamming a freshman QB I've seen.
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I wasn't trying to discredit Ainge, so no, I don't need a better example. I think he did as well as a true freshman QB could. But in my opinion, because we (fans) weren't expecting a NC from last year's team, when we won a few of the games we didn't think we'd win, we decided EA was the second coming of Christ with football pads on, and built him up a little more than maybe he deserved.

So all I was trying to do was show that his stats were average - not fantastic, but I'm not ready to yank his scholarship. If you read the rest of my post, I simply said I hope the new OC can move him beyond the 2004 form that I feel has been mis-memorialized. :peace:
 
#50
#50
Originally posted by OrangeUAVol?@Nov 23, 2005 11:17 AM
I simply said I hope the new OC can move him beyond the 2004 form that I feel has been mis-memorialized.  :peace:
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Well the new OC will have his hands full. He will need quite a few capable assistants under him to make sure ALL areas are developed properly. Every aspect of the Offense needs serious attention. He'll have to focus on areas the assistants don't have covered.
 
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