Steve Spurrier: "I'm not a very good coach now."

[volfanbill]

Not to mention its South freaking Carolina. Those top 15-20 classes are a miracle for that program.

Not really. South Carolina is LOADED with football talent as a state. Columbia isn't exactly glorious, but the Clemson area is awful.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

I hope you dont mind losing to tennessee then.

Do huh?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I hope you dont mind losing to tennessee then.

Yeah how many times has UT beaten Spurrier at UF?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

He's a straight shooter. I can't fault him for that.

I wish Butch was like that.

 

[volfanCLT]

Not really. South Carolina is LOADED with football talent as a state. Columbia isn't exactly glorious, but the Clemson area is awful.

It didn't seem to matter that South Carolina was loaded with football talent for the 100 or so years before Spurrier got there.

Having talent in the state and getting it to Columbia are two very, very different things.

 

[volfanbill]

It didn't seem to matter that South Carolina was loaded with football talent for the 100 or so years before Spurrier got there.

Having talent in the state and getting it to Columbia are two very, very different things.

It was also apparent that USC didn't care about winning until around 2000. Also, they were winning and had a great foundation before Spurrier got there

 

[TennesseeFan07]

I love Spurrier.

 

[YankeeVol]

It was also apparent that USC didn't care about winning until around 2000. Also, they were winning and had a great foundation before Spurrier got there

They were 497-504 all-time before Spurrier and had been to only 3 bowl games in the 15 years prior to Spurrier.

Holtz finished with a 33–37 overall record from 99-04.

I wouldn't call that winning.

 

[wildnkrazykat]

In reality he was just literally telling his players they were gonna have to man up n want to get better and want to win.

 

[ajvol01]

They were 497-504 all-time before Spurrier and had been to only 3 bowl games in the 15 years prior to Spurrier.

Holtz finished with a 33–37 overall record from 99-04.

I wouldn't call that winning.

1999 they went 0-11

2000-2001 they went 17-7 with 2 Outback Bowl wins over Ohio State

2002-2004 they went 16-19

Holtz turned it around. It was a train wreck when he got there. They went 1-10 in 1998 under Brad Scott. He just couldn't sustain it.

 

[salutethehill]

1999 they went 0-11

2000-2001 they went 17-7 with 2 Outback Bowl wins over Ohio State

2002-2004 they went 16-19

Holtz turned it around. It was a train wreck when he got there. They went 1-10 in 1998 under Brad Scott. He just couldn't sustain it.

They definitely got better under Holtz.
You could even say he turned it around.

"Great foundation" is pushing it.

 

[VOODOOVOL]

Joe Morrison is the best coach South Carolina has had.

 

[salutethehill]

Joe Morrison is the best coach South Carolina has had.

Negative. He was certainly a good coach, and could have gone on to be great, but time didn't allow him.

Spurrier definitely fits that title.

Paul Dietzel gets honorable mention for delivering SC their only conference championship.

 

[VOODOOVOL]

Negative. He was certainly a good coach, and could have gone on to be great, but time didn't allow him.

Spurrier definitely fits that title.

Paul Dietzel gets honorable mention for delivering SC their only conference championship.

Has Spurrier had them ranked higher than 2nd in the country?

 

[salutethehill]

Has Spurrier had them ranked higher than 2nd in the country?

Is that all it takes?

The highest Morrison ever finished in the AP is 11.
Spurrier's finished in the top 10 three times in a row, including a Top 5 finish last year, their highest finish ever.

Morrison didn't even have 3 winning seasons in a row.

Morrison didn't win a single bowl game at SC.
Spurrier's 4-4 in bowl games, and has won the last 3 in a row.

Morrison was 2-3-1 against Clemson, and never beat them back-to-back.
Spurrier's 6-3 against Clemson, and has won the last 5 in a row.

This isn't even a discussion.

 

[VOODOOVOL]

Is that all it takes?

The highest Morrison ever finished in the AP is 11.
Spurrier's finished in the top 10 three times in a row, including a Top 5 finish last year, their highest finish ever.

Morrison didn't even have 3 winning seasons in a row.

Morrison didn't win a single bowl game at SC.
Spurrier's 4-4 in bowl games, and has won the last 3 in a row.

Morrison was 2-3-1 against Clemson, and never beat them back-to-back.
Spurrier's 6-3 against Clemson, and has won the last 5 in a row.

This isn't even a discussion.

Didn't mean for you to go all Wikimanic.
You're right, it's not a discussion.