Still sold on Bajakian?

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#27
There won't be any coaching changes. Butch is too invested in his coaches and his system. He won't take advantage of chances to upgrade, and we will see more of the same next year. He may recruit the players to make his system work here eventually, but by then fans will be sick of "the process" and want him gone.
 
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Looked to me like the defensive philosophy of Jancek- passive punching bag, no QB pressure, play soft and don't give up the big one- was shifted to offense as well. Don't throw anything over 2 yards, don't mess up. Punt.

Couple of things to get off my mind: if you can't get any pressure with 4, then why not rush 2 or 3? The LB's and DB's are way off the LOS so the opposing QB knows there will be all day to find a receiver. Either blitz- which they never do because punching bags don't hit back- or drop 8 or 9 into coverage. To keep rushing 4 with absolutely no results is kinda dumb.

Quit lining up in the I on 3rd and short- I swear they never made 2 yards on 3rd and short from that formation all year. Seriously, everybody stuffed them.

It's obvious Dobbs can run, so it's frustrating to watch no roll outs, no QB draws, etc. Just tell him to drop back and take off. Anything to use his feet, given he cannot currently throw downfield 5 yards from the LOS.

When you play not to lose, the margin is small.

Given they were coming off a bye week I was surprised the offense looked that terrible. I expected at least a little improvement, something that shows progress.

I am glad Butch can recruit.
 
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screenthis said:
Wait. Now Butch is not the answer? I'm just thankful your not in charge. Yes, a disappointing loss and first seasnon. But you can bet another quick coaching change will cement our place at the bottom for a long time. Changing coaches more often than you change shirts is not a good idea.
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we honestly can't afford another coaching change money wise. it just sucks we will have to sit through 3 or 4 more losing seasons before the powers to be realize that we hired a brian kelly wanna be. he could change my mind a little by making some changes with his staff, but i don't see that happening. honestly it maybe one of the worst staffs in the country.
 
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keckjm said:
I hear what you are saying, but dude the play calls don't make sense sometimes. This is the SEC. You have to be able to complete 3rd and 3. Running out of a shotgun is a disadvantage on short, third down plays IMO. It's especially a disadvantage to run shotgun in short yardage run plays when you have no threat of passing. Manziel and A&M run this same crap and amazingly they are 1-3 against Bama and LSU doing it. This crap doesn't work consistently in the SEC. I've said it the last five weeks and got flamed, but the SEC is made for power football and smart QB play. There's nothing wrong with running shotgun and spread formations, Bama, LSU, etc do it, but Bama, etc, also know in third and 2 situations they are going to go to two TE sets and a FB and they are going to make you stop them. When you can run off the center in a traditional I-Form or Strong set, it opens up the play action, and when you have play action it becomes hard to defend an offense.
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We ran the I last night and got stuffed. It's not coach Jake's fault if our oline can't get no push from a 3 pt. stance. I am starting to think Bray's quick releasing made them look better. Coach Jake's O is more prostyle than Chaney's spread it and throw deep.
 
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Burger said:
We ran the I last night and got stuffed. It's not coach Jake's fault if our oline can't get no push from a 3 pt. stance. I am starting to think Bray's quick releasing made them look better. Coach Jake's O is more prostyle than Chaney's spread it and throw deep.
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Dude it wasn't an O-line problem. It's predictable. When you line up in the I one time and it's 3rd and 2 it doesn't take a genius to figure out what we are doing. Also, if you missed it the TE that was used as the FB missed the block on the B gap and allowed the LB to make the play or we would have had a first down. It looked like something our coaches ran in practice one time and said that's enough. I'd also give a lot of money to have Chaney back, along with Sam Pittman.
 
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keckjm said:
Dude it wasn't an O-line problem. It's predictable. When you line up in the I one time and it's 3rd and 2 it doesn't take a genius to figure out what we are doing. Also, if you missed it the TE that was used as the FB missed the block on the B gap and allowed the LB to make the play or we would have had a first down. It looked like something our coaches ran in practice one time and said that's enough.
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The first two plays of the game we ran I. We didn't generate any push at all in those 2 plays. We never had a prostyle Oline.
 
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Burger said:
The first two plays of the game we ran I. We didn't generate any push at all in those 2 plays. We never had a prostyle Oline.
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This. The Oline we have is built to get in the way of defenders and pass block, not blow defenders off the ball.
 
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Burger said:
The first two plays of the game we ran I. We didn't generate any push at all in those 2 plays. We never had a prostyle Oline.
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We ran two strong sets with a walkon TE at FB. If rather see that then the read option up the middle every 1st and 10. This offense is so predictable that half of VolNation could defend it. We run the read option 60-70 percent of the time on 1st and 10. Our four wide sets look like a middle school team trying to throw the ball. The excuses at some point have to stop for our offense's lack of production. The spread offense doesn't work consistently in the SEC, and it never will as long as teams like LSU and Bama keep putting the defenses on the field that they have been the last 5-6 years.
 
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keckjm said:
We ran two strong sets with a walkon TE at FB. If rather see that then the read option up the middle every 1st and 10. This offense is so predictable that half of VolNation could defend it. We run the read option 60-70 percent of the time on 1st and 10. Our four wide sets look like a middle school team trying to throw the ball. The excuses at some point have to stop for our offense's lack of production. The spread offense doesn't work consistently in the SEC, and it never will as long as teams like LSU and Bama keep putting the defenses on the field that they have been the last 5-6 years.
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All I ask for on offense is a proper balance. Looks are all just looks. All plays work if executed correctly.
Considering our lack of coaching with Dooley, and our inexperience at many position would make any offense look like a high school offense. Mizzouri and Auburn are doing quite fine this year in the SEC. Offenses go as far as their players. To be well coached, it takes consistent coaching for multiple years in a row. We don't have that yet, and we won't until the end of 2014. Pinkel is the perfect example of well coached.
 
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We have a crappy version of the spread. UT hired a Big East staff and is getting Big East results.
 
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Wylo said:
We have a crappy version of the spread. UT hired a Big East staff and is getting Big East results.
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You're wrong. We hired a guy who has multiple 10 win seasons in multiple places. He's been pipelining players into the NFL for awhile. Football's fundamentals are the same at every level of football. We have poorly coached players because of the last staff. This takes times and is not for the instant gratification crowd.
 
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Burger said:
You're wrong. We hired a guy who has multiple 10 win seasons in multiple places. He's been pipelining players into the NFL for awhile. Football's fundamentals are the same at every level of football. We have poorly coached players because of the last staff. This takes times and is not for the instant gratification crowd.
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As of today, the results point to me being correct and you dreaming. Talk to me when the proof changes things.
 
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Wylo said:
As of today, the results point to me being correct and you dreaming. Talk to me when the proof changes things.
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Results haven't even had time to happen yet. You can't judge a coach off of his first season in almost any sport. I've had to watch rebuilds of various teams through out the year, and we are exactly in the range of where I'd think we'd be. We won't see tangible results next year, and most rational people know that.
 
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Q: What do Stanford's D, Oregon's O, and Baylor's O have in common?

A: They were all coached by good coaches for the last 4-6 years
 
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cd12 said:
I have yet to understand his play calling.
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Good luck. It's trash along with much of the front end prep and game plan design.

The longer he stays the long it takes us to get back and Butch has a candle on fire from both ends.
 
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