stock market was up today...

All on the table, if we get that low it’ll be a hard recovery. Massive layoffs
20k would be an almost Armageddon that would be a pullback of over 45% from recent peak. But I don’t think it’s unprecedented. However I really would think it would find support way before that level. Once you filter out the emotional noise the market will price out by forward looking PnE and earnings projections.
 
Pretty sure that Warren Buffets formula indicates that stocks themselves are still 150% over valued right now, even with the market hitting bear territory.

They might be but the fed will do QE long before that price is discounted. Remember 2008, the S&P was seeking but they wouldn't take the pain and did QE. Nobody knows the value.
 
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This thread doesn't get much action anymore, since the potato head has decimated everyone's investments. Some "experts" are now saying it's time to "buy the dip". Now that these experts are telling me to buy, I'm planning for a major road trip down town in the market.
US stock market is tanking, but some experts say it's time to buy the dip

You could buy now and still end up ok in the long run, but more things have to happen IMO. I'll wait and buy stocks cheaper.
 
This thread doesn't get much action anymore, since the potato head has decimated everyone's investments. Some "experts" are now saying it's time to "buy the dip". Now that these experts are telling me to buy, I'm planning for a major road trip down town in the market.
US stock market is tanking, but some experts say it's time to buy the dip
I start dollar cost averaging back in at the start of November. Will take me a few months two get all the way back in and I’ll be 70/30 equities/bonds. We’ve got 3 more CPI reports and two more FOMC rate hikes to go this year and the market has taken a dump after each occasion all year long. I think the analysts are finally starting to remember “don’t fight the Fed” because that’s exactly what they’ve been doing all year long.
 
I start dollar cost averaging back in at the start of November. Will take me a few months two get all the way back in and I’ll be 70/30 equities/bonds. We’ve got 3 more CPI reports and two more FOMC rate hikes to go this year and the market has taken a dump after each occasion all year long. I think the analysts are finally starting to remember “don’t fight the Fed” because that’s exactly what they’ve been doing all year long.

I didn't think you did your own investing? For some reason, I thought you had a "guy" that did it all for you.
Personally, I don't trust the sleazy ass bastards that work for brokerage houses. I'd rather buy index funds and beat most of them 19/20 years.
 
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I didn't think you did your own investing? For some reason, I thought you had a "guy" that did it all for you.
Personally, I don't trust the sleazy ass bastards that work for brokerage houses. I'd rather buy index funds and beat most of them 19/20 years.
I do. It’s actually a gal. And not a brokerage house it’s a wealth management company. That is a summary of the plan we put together yesterday at a meeting she’s been beating me up to have. Consensus is the market still has farther down to go but how much and for how long who knows. But there is plenty of ground given up to make a plan and get ready to get back in which is what we did.
 
So the market is down 20% plus this year, and the housing market hasnt tanked yet...but everyone knows it has to, because a $200k house is valued at $300k due to the artificially low interest rates when they were purchased etc. If/when we get to 30% down, if at least some of the inevitable dominoes have fallen, I am thinking I will jump back in the market. I ate the 1st 10% of losses but if i manage to duck the other 20% I will be happy to keep my meager savings and hopefully we see quick and substantial growth sooner rather than later.
 
So the market is down 20% plus this year, and the housing market hasnt tanked yet...but everyone knows it has to, because a $200k house is valued at $300k due to the artificially low interest rates when they were purchased etc. If/when we get to 30% down, if at least some of the inevitable dominoes have fallen, I am thinking I will jump back in the market. I ate the 1st 10% of losses but if i manage to duck the other 20% I will be happy to keep my meager savings and hopefully we see quick and substantial growth sooner rather than later.
Don't wait too long Marcus, I'd hate to see you miss out on any big gains. You're young enough that you know it will rebound in the next couple of years. Hopefully you're still buying into the market as it's going down, that's the best way to make a fortune when it goes back up.
 
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So the market is down 20% plus this year, and the housing market hasnt tanked yet...but everyone knows it has to, because a $200k house is valued at $300k due to the artificially low interest rates when they were purchased etc. If/when we get to 30% down, if at least some of the inevitable dominoes have fallen, I am thinking I will jump back in the market. I ate the 1st 10% of losses but if i manage to duck the other 20% I will be happy to keep my meager savings and hopefully we see quick and substantial growth sooner rather than later.
Biden and the gang are in office until 2024. And whoever comes in after them will not right the ship overnight. You buying back in even at 30% would be buying at a premium. This thing is going down much lower with the clowns we have running this circus.
 
Don't wait too long Marcus, I'd hate to see you miss out on any big gains. You're young enough that you know it will rebound in the next couple of years. Hopefully you're still buying into the market as it's going down, that's the best way to make a fortune when it goes back up.
None of us have lived through a true bear market/depression. Buying the dips right now is like catching a falling knife. The old paradigm is being broken in front of your eyes. Things will not be the same as they used to be. Biden and his handlers will make sure of that.
 
None of us have lived through a true bear market/depression. Buying the dips right now is like catching a falling knife. The old paradigm is being broken in front of your eyes. Things will not be the same as they used to be. Biden and his handlers will make sure of that.
Let me guess--time to buy gold again?
 
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None of us have lived through a true bear market/depression. Buying the dips right now is like catching a falling knife. The old paradigm is being broken in front of your eyes. Things will not be the same as they used to be. Biden and his handlers will make sure of that.
I’m buying things I never touched before to bolster my portfolio hopefully 2-3 years down the road.
 
I’m buying things I never touched before to bolster my portfolio hopefully 2-3 years down the road.

I'm kicking my self for not buying BTU in 2020 when I had a gut instict that coal was going to make a resurgence. Outside of missing out on that trade, I'm satisfied with the other counter-inteuitive moves I've made. Buying cheap when sentiment is low and just sitting back and waiting for the big commodities push to come to the US. We're already seeing signs of it in Europe. The US is at most18 months behind.
 
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I'm kicking my self for not buying BTU in 2020 when I had a gut instict that coal was going to make a resurgence. Outside of missing out on that trade, I'm satisfied with the other counter-inteuitive moves I've made. Buying cheap when sentiment is low and just sitting back and waiting for the big commodities push to come to the US. We're already seeing signs of it in Europe. The US is at most18 months behind.
Felt that way with Moderna and Crisper therapeutics around the same time.
 
WSJ reporting that the UN is calling on a halt to rate hikes by our FED. Amazing and ridiculous. Something is about to break or this could be the excuse to ease.
 
Debt denominated in USD gets more expensive as rates go higher. And, these other currencies are falling against the USD. The pound and euro are soon going to be trading like the peso against the dollar if things keep up.

It is amazing to watch this geopolitics. Like the US just emasculated the EU
 
WSJ reporting that the UN is calling on a halt to rate hikes by our FED. Amazing and ridiculous. Something is about to break or this could be the excuse to ease.
I don’t remember Jay Powell pointing to the feelings of the UN when gauging rate policy only CPI 🤷‍♂️

Will be interesting if puddinhead starts grumbling too instead of continuing the All is Well BS
 

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