Stokes' Pro Potential?

#51
#51
Midfielder10 said:
He will play his junior season. Maybe even senior. Needs to develop an outside shot if he doesnt grow
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Sully expanded his game nicely, added the outside shot, very similar measurables as stokes. If he can hit the 15-18 footer consistently and have the ability to hit an open 3 that'll be enough to go top 20 this year IMO.

I think he may return though as well for junior season, especially if Nichols is coming.
 
#52
#52
Zach Randolph is a decent comparison I think just based on body type and some of the things we saw Jarnell do. Not saying he'll be that successful but I know we'd all be pumped if he turned into that kind of player.
 
#54
#54
Chris4Vols22 said:
I thought Randolph was considerably bigger?
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6'9" 260lbs for Randolph, basically the exact same as stokes.

Randolph can step out and hit that J though, I think stokes ceiling will have a lot to do with the progression of his J. Unless of course he was to grow another couple of inches.
 
#55
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bleedingTNorange said:
6'9" 260lbs for Randolph, basically the exact same as stokes.

Randolph can step out and hit that J though, I think stokes ceiling will have a lot to do with the progression of his J. Unless of course he was to grow another couple of inches.
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Oh ok. Thanks for clarifying.

Was at work before I posted that. Otherwise I would have looked it up myself.
 
#56
#56
bleedingTNorange said:
6'9" 260lbs for Randolph, basically the exact same as stokes.

Randolph can step out and hit that J though, I think stokes ceiling will have a lot to do with the progression of his J. Unless of course he was to grow another couple of inches.
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Totally agree about the jump shot, he did show flashes of that last season and I hope to see him improve.
 
#59
#59
he needs a good 3-4 inch growth spurt, completely possible, give him a chance to grow into his feet lol
 
#61
#61
bleedingTNorange said:
Sully expanded his game nicely, added the outside shot, very similar measurables as stokes. If he can hit the 15-18 footer consistently and have the ability to hit an open 3 that'll be enough to go top 20 this year IMO.

I think he may return though as well for junior season, especially if Nichols is coming.
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Sully is gonna be a stud:) No bias from a Boston fan.
 
#62
#62
colvol said:
Sully is gonna be a stud:) No bias from a Boston fan.
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It was a risk move, but the reward far out weighs the risk.

Rondo, KG, terry, pierce, Bradley, Melo and sully is a pretty good return for a team many expected to really split up.
 
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#63
#63
bleedingTNorange said:
6'9" 260lbs for Randolph, basically the exact same as stokes.

Randolph can step out and hit that J though, I think stokes ceiling will have a lot to do with the progression of his J. Unless of course he was to grow another couple of inches.
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I'd like to see what Randolph's wingspan looks like. Stokes is much longer than I thought because he doesn't look what he measures IMO. Randolph's reach looks long. I could see him turning into that type of gritty, below the rim player. It will be interesting to see how he wants to develop his game since he's said in the past he models his after Carmelo.
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#64
#64
jknox33 said:
I'd like to see what Randolph's wingspan looks like. Stokes is much longer than I thought because he doesn't look what he measures IMO. Randolph's reach looks long. I could see him turning into that type of gritty, below the rim player. It will be interesting to see how he wants to develop his game since he's said in the past he models his after Carmelo.
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Jarnell has a 7'1" wingspan Randolph has a 7'5" wingspan
 
#65
#65
A 4" reach doesn't seem like much to me, but it may in the eyes of every NBA scout. I'd like to know what a pro scout's assessment of Jarnell is and what type of player they project him to be. It may not be different, but I see college scouts and pro scouts with different ideologies in what they look for and how they project a player to be.

Obviously, one doesn't have to be a great college player to be an NBA player (see Drummond, Andre) and a great college player sometimes doesn't make it to the NBA (see Lofton, Chris). To me, a ball player can play ball regardless of the stereotype, IMO. Guess that's why I'm doing the job I'm doing and am not an NBA scout...
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#66
#66
jknox33 said:
A 4" reach doesn't seem like much to me, but it may in the eyes of every NBA scout. I'd like to know what a pro scout's assessment of Jarnell is and what type of player they project him to be. It may not be different, but I see college scouts and pro scouts with different ideologies in what they look for and how they project a player to be.

Obviously, one doesn't have to be a great college player to be an NBA player (see Drummond, Andre) and a great college player sometimes doesn't make it to the NBA (see Lofton, Chris). To me, a ball player can play ball regardless of the stereotype, IMO. Guess that's why I'm doing the job I'm doing and am not an NBA scout...
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4" is definitely a lot in the eyes of scouts that's for sure. Sully and Stokes measurables are almost identical and stokes went 20th with a huge red flag, he was definitely top 10 if healthy. If stokes produces he's big enough to go as a lottery pick, no doubt IMO, it'll just be about his production.
 
#67
#67
Cuonzo's TV interview with Geoff Calkins of the Memphis Commercial appeal:

Sports Files with Geoff Calkins

One of the more interesting tidbits: Cuonzo says Jarnell is probably gone after this season if he takes the right steps and progresses like he expects.
 
#70
#70
MannyD said:
I guess so. Still think it's interesting. Never heard Cuonzo's stance on this.
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I think Counzo understands that in today's college basketball world, if you have a great player, it's more beneficial to be positive about their going pro than be portrayed as negative. Most 5 star guys are looking for a stepping stone to the NBA, not a place to develop. Stokes may turn out to be different, but we saw this year, it's best to go when you are considered a hot item.
 
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