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AlumniChase said:
Wow we are in trouble at that position. Going to be a lot of quick throws, screens and misdirection runs...
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Based on what? Jury is very much still out. Can't make assumptions about how effective they'll be just by looking at one picture IMO.
 
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AlumniChase said:
Wow we are in trouble at that position. Going to be a lot of quick throws, screens and misdirection runs...
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Actually, I think quite the opposite. I think this group could be an unexpected surprise this season.

Also, keep in mind, missing from this picture is Blair. Wiesman is a future All-SEC lineman and Crowder should be solid at center. Jackson actually started games two season ago before redshirting last year. He's one of the strongest in the group.
 
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AV_12 said:
At RB, you either have it or you don't... You don't need to be a seasoned Vet to play.. And lol D Young isn't playing over Hurd
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It's pass protection that keeps freshmen from playing early. I'm not saying that Young will play over him, I'm saying that is one reason Hurd or any other frosh won't play early. However, Hurd being at school already should help him pick up the blocking schemes resulting in him getting early pt.
 
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smokey0625 said:
It's pass protection that keeps freshmen from playing early. I'm not saying that Young will play over him, I'm saying that is one reason Hurd or any other frosh won't play early. However, Hurd being at school already should help him pick up the blocking schemes resulting in him getting early pt.
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These aren't the days of Mark Levine starting over Jamal Lewis :ermm:
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butchna said:
These aren't the days of Mark Levine starting over Jamal Lewis :ermm:
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Marlin is a good back in his own right. Hurd does not need to take more than 40% of the snaps. I actually like Lane as a back. He always found a way to get +2.
 
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Burger said:
Marlin is a good back in his own right. Hurd does not need to take more than 40% of the snaps. I actually like Lane as a back. He always found a way to get +2.
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Lane is a good back...but IF Jalen is as special as we suspect...he starts by week three...Marlin will get plenty of carries though.
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butchna said:
Lane is a good back...but IF Jalen is as special as we suspect...he starts by week three...Marlin will get plenty of carries though.
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Very true, if he's that special, it'll be known next week.
 
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butchna said:
Lane is a good back...but IF Jalen is as special as we suspect...he starts by week three...Marlin will get plenty of carries though.
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I think it will come down to how well he's picked up the blocking schemes.
 
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walkenvol said:
If he is as special as VN suspects, then he's a hybrid of Bo, Hershal, and Barry Sanders.
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Bo-Herschel hybrid, maybe. Not Sanders. Sanders was a cross between an eel, an oil covered lynx, and Gale Sayers. Just something utterly different than there ever was before.
 
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smokey0625 said:
Want our qb hurt? You saw how many games we won with our back up last season right?
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Amazing that Peyton was still standing after Jamal took over...the electrifying runs and receptions were big smokescreens
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butchna said:
Amazing that Peyton was still standing after Jamal took over...the electrifying runs and receptions were big smokescreens
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Are you saying we have Peyton playing for us right now? You're an idiot if you are. You do know that Peyton tells every player what to do right? Even in college, he made sure people knew what to do. Now back to reality, where is Peyton on the Vols. He ain't there genius.
 
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smokey0625 said:
Are you saying we have Peyton playing for us right now? You're an idiot if you are. You do know that Peyton tells every player what to do right? Even in college, he made sure people knew what to do. Now back to reality, where is Peyton on the Vols. He ain't there genius.
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Touchy...quick on flashing the GENIUS card aren't we?...I'm sure you're just paying proper homage to the Mark Levine idol in your Mark Levine shrine...him being a legendary VFL blocker and all...So your point is because we don't have a senior year Peyton Manning...we need to replicate the Cutcliffe mistake that cost us the Florida game that year? That's gold analysis...why I stay glued to this board....let me type these nuggets so I can screenshot this beeyatch :good!:
 
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butchna said:
Touchy...quick on flashing the GENIUS card aren't we?...I'm sure you're just paying proper homage to the Mark Levine idol in your Mark Levine shrine...him being a legendary VFL blocker and all...So your point is because we don't have a senior year Peyton Manning...we need to replicate the Cutcliffe mistake that cost us the Florida game that year? That's gold analysis...why I stay glued to this board....let me type these nuggets so I can screenshot this beeyatch :good!:
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You just proved my point with your idiocy, genius. We don't have a qb that can do what Peyton did, heck there aren't any in the NFL either. So because of that he should start behind Lane until he shows he has the blocking schemes down. That was my original point as to why frosh RBs don't play early.

Lastly, your Cutcliffe reference has no bearing on the present situation because we don't have a future NFL hall of fame qb telling our freshmen what to do. And yes, Cutty made a mistake because even if Jamal didn't know who to block, Peyton would have told him.
 
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smokey0625 said:
You just proved my point with your idiocy, genius. We don't have a qb that can do what Peyton did, heck there aren't any in the NFL either. So because of that he should start behind Lane until he shows he has the blocking schemes down. That was my original point as to why frosh RBs don't play early.

Lastly, your Cutcliffe reference has no bearing on the present situation because we don't have a future NFL hall of fame qb telling our freshmen what to do. And yes, Cutty made a mistake because even if Jamal didn't know who to block, Peyton would have told him.
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So why didn't they give it a try Aristotle?...you keep accurately pointing out that Peyton was and is the best QB in history at getting players lined up and moved around before the snap...and he still wasn't allowed the weapon he needed to beat Florida...my example illustrated the fallacy of sacrificing talent for blocking...from the feature back position...it was true then and even more so now...where these kids camp out and drill football year round...your worry seems to stem from the misbegotten notion that if Hurd or Scott is lined up instead of Lane that whoever gets the nod at QB is going to test Obamacare...Lane will get the majority of carries early on, but Hurd and Scott will take more and more away by the third game...and they'll manage to throw a few blocks along the way :)
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butchna said:
So why didn't they give it a try Aristotle?...you keep accurately pointing out that Peyton was and is the best QB in history at getting players lined up and moved around before the snap...and he still wasn't allowed the weapon he needed to beat Florida...my example illustrated the fallacy of sacrificing talent for blocking...from the feature back position...it was true then and even more so now...where these kids camp out and drill football year round...your worry seems to stem from the misbegotten notion that if Hurd or Scott is lined up instead of Lane that whoever gets the nod at QB is going to test Obamacare...Lane will get the majority of carries early on, but Hurd and Scott will take more and more away by the third game...and they'll manage to throw a few blocks along the way :)
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The backs have to know how to block, but if either are that special, they will get carries. They will not get over 50% without knowing the book. You're correct with the path we will see. Hurd starts by Vandy is my gentleman's bet.

Ainge actually got hurt because of this, even though it was his mistake. The back made the wrong read.
 
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Burger said:
The backs have to know how to block, but if either are that special, they will get carries. They will not get over 50% without knowing the book. You're correct with the path we will see. Hurd starts by Vandy is my gentleman's bet.

Ainge actually got hurt because of this, even though it was his mistake. The back made the wrong read.
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Try again. Ainge got hurt vs ND in 2004 because backup center Chuck Prugh was playing instead of Jason Respert. Totally missed his block.
 
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butchna said:
So why didn't they give it a try Aristotle?...you keep accurately pointing out that Peyton was and is the best QB in history at getting players lined up and moved around before the snap...and he still wasn't allowed the weapon he needed to beat Florida...my example illustrated the fallacy of sacrificing talent for blocking...from the feature back position...it was true then and even more so now...where these kids camp out and drill football year round...your worry seems to stem from the misbegotten notion that if Hurd or Scott is lined up instead of Lane that whoever gets the nod at QB is going to test Obamacare...Lane will get the majority of carries early on, but Hurd and Scott will take more and more away by the third game...and they'll manage to throw a few blocks along the way :)
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Are you insinuating that we have a Peyton-esque qb on our roster? Even Dooley couldn't lie about that. I never said they wouldn't play Mr. Brain Surgeon, I said that freshmen tbs usually start behind the older guys because of pass protection. My next point was to the vitality of my first point and that is if our starter goes down due to blocking assignments then look at how good we were last year with our back up qb. Therefore, Lane will start and Hurd backs up unless Hurd demonstrates two things- 1) he's really the talent that we all think he is and 2) he can pass protect.
 
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butchna said:
So why didn't they give it a try Aristotle?...you keep accurately pointing out that Peyton was and is the best QB in history at getting players lined up and moved around before the snap...and he still wasn't allowed the weapon he needed to beat Florida...my example illustrated the fallacy of sacrificing talent for blocking...from the feature back position...it was true then and even more so now...where these kids camp out and drill football year round...your worry seems to stem from the misbegotten notion that if Hurd or Scott is lined up instead of Lane that whoever gets the nod at QB is going to test Obamacare...Lane will get the majority of carries early on, but Hurd and Scott will take more and more away by the third game...and they'll manage to throw a few blocks along the way :)
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I agreed with you on some of your points and you're still arguing. Still in high school?
 
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