Strong arming the "Best 4 teams" BCS games?

[bamawriter]

If a top four only had existed in 2006, both Michigan and Ohio State would have made it out of the Big Ten. So you're saying that would have been legitimate, even though we know they both got their asses handed to them in their bowl games?

And Florida and LSU would have both been in the tournament as well, and would have likely met for the title. It would have been a rematch, and who gives a crap?

 

[TUSKtimes]

If a top four only had existed in 2006, both Michigan and Ohio State would have made it out of the Big Ten. So you're saying that would have been legitimate, even though we know they both got their asses handed to them in their bowl games?

Bias is very much my biggest issue with this. All of it is towards the SEC right now, and perhaps rightly so. Using BCS standings (which is comprised of computers and two horribly flawed polls) or a selection committee is a terrible idea for determining four teams.

Again, conference champions are determined on the field 99% of the time, and at least showing preference to conference champs would be far more legitimate than just hand-picking four teams.

And it would cut down greatly on bull**** mulligan championships like Bama's last year.

Speaking of "bias," it can get real thick after 6 National championships in a row. The mandate of the BCS is to pick the two best teams. The fact that one happens to be wearing Crimson, may be more than you can emotionally get over, but rational minds tend to consider the long run. As you saw by the overwhelming result in the NC game, the BCS did pick the best team in the nation.

Now the mandate is just as simple. Pick the 4 best teams in the nation.

 

[GatorBill]

GatorBill, what is your problem with letting the Top 4 teams be in the playoffs, whether they are picked by a selection committee, or are just the Top 4 in the BCS standings after conference championship games are played?

How is your proposal of looking at W/L records of conference champions/conference runners-up more simple than just having the Top 4 teams in the playoffs?

Take the top 4 teams, and everything takes care of itself. Personally, I'm fine with keeping the BCS rankings and just using those, I'm not crazy about the politics involved in a selection committee.

The only thing my idea has that is much different than "top 4 teams" is that if there are 2 teams with equal records, and one of them won their conference and the other didnt, I think the conference winner should get the nod.

If two teams have an equal number of losses (one is 11-1 because it didnt win it's own division, like Bama, and the other is 12-1 because it won it's conference championship) then the team that won it's conference championship should get the nod.

All of this is just "wording" to keep people happy. It probably will come up about once every 20 years or so anyways.

 

[GatorBill]

As long as the regular season is over by mid October, you may be on to something.

If we end it all BEFORE october then they could start handing out that "September Heisman" that michigan quarterbacks have been winning for the past 5 years.

 

[GatorBill]

If a top four only had existed in 2006, both Michigan and Ohio State would have made it out of the Big Ten. So you're saying that would have been legitimate, even though we know they both got their asses handed to them in their bowl games?

Bias is very much my biggest issue with this. All of it is towards the SEC right now, and perhaps rightly so. Using BCS standings (which is comprised of computers and two horribly flawed polls) or a selection committee is a terrible idea for determining four teams.

Again, conference champions are determined on the field 99% of the time, and at least showing preference to conference champs would be far more legitimate than just hand-picking four teams.

And it would cut down greatly on bull**** mulligan championships like Bama's last year.

I would upvote this a jilly times if I could.

 

[GatorBill]

6-16 team SuperConferences
Each conference has four 4-team divisions.
Each conference then has a divisional championship game
Divisional Champs play for the Conference Championship
Conference Champions plus 2 at large teams make an 8 team playoff.

If Bama and LSU are still #1 and #2 coming out of that, then Bama is an at large team.

Screw everyone else. If you are #9 and think you got the shaft, too bad. You were not likely to win the dumb thing from the 9th spot anyways.

And Screw Notre Dame. If you want in on the "GatorBill National Championship Presented by Maxim", you have to be in a conference.

 

[bamawriter]

I can live with a system where every conference has the same number of people, and determine their champs with the same criteria, and only the champs play for the title. Until that happens, a conference champs only model isn't good enough.

 

[milohimself]

I can live with a system where every conference has the same number of people, and determine their champs with the same criteria, and only the champs play for the title. Until that happens, a conference champs only model isn't good enough.

Seems like that may well happen in the near future

 

[TuskALoosa]

Speaking of strong arming, who would win an arm wrestling contest between the 14 SEC coaches??? Muschamp prolly.

 

[GatorBill]

Speaking of strong arming, who would win an arm wrestling contest between the 14 SEC coaches??? Muschamp prolly.

Can les have his wife stand in for him? Cause that affects my answer.

 

[GatorBill]

I can live with a system where every conference has the same number of people, and determine their champs with the same criteria, and only the champs play for the title. Until that happens, a conference champs only model isn't good enough.

Im with you 100% on this. And like Milo, I believe this is where we are headed.