Stupid ESPN Comment...

#27
#27
VolBuck24 said:
Pryor is the best player on the team and the one they can't afford to lose most.
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Pryor's also the one most likely to screw up a a game this year. Unless Pryor improves dramatically, he shouldn't win the Heisman. I'm not sure I've ever seen a QB just throw so many balls up for grabs. He's very talented, but he's not Heisman material, and he's certainly not the best player in college football.
 
#29
#29
tvolsfan said:
Pryor's also the one most likely to screw up a a game this year. Unless Pryor improves dramatically, he shouldn't win the Heisman. I'm not sure I've ever seen a QB just throw so many balls up for grabs. He's very talented, but he's not Heisman material, and he's certainly not the best player in college football.
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But like it was said earlier, how often is the Heisman winner really the best overall player in college football. If Pryor is playing well and OSU is in a BCS bowl or the NC he will most likely be a finalist and i wouldn't argue it.
 
#30
#30
SteelVol89 said:
The same commentator that said James Madison beating Virginia Tech was "the first great upset of this college football season." Hello? Did somebody not see the Jacksonville State miracle?
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Ole Miss isn't as good as VT. Or wasn't supposed to be, anyway.
 
#31
#31
VolBuck24 said:
But like it was said earlier, how often is the Heisman winner really the best overall player in college football. If Pryor is playing well and OSU is in a BCS bowl or the NC he will most likely be a finalist and i wouldn't argue it.
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Not the same situation at all. All the finalists in recent memory have played considerably better than Pryor has. I didn't watch Eric Crouch play, but he may be an exception to that. Pryor completed 40 percent of his passes in the last game. That's Reggie Ball awful. If Ohio State could win out, but that's because the solid defense and lack of opponents with comparable talent.
 
#32
#32
tvolsfan said:
Not the same situation at all. All the finalists in recent memory have played considerably better than Pryor has. I didn't watch Eric Crouch play, but he may be an exception to that. Pryor completed 40 percent of his passes in the last game. That's Reggie Ball awful. If Ohio State could win out, but that's because the solid defense and lack of opponents with comparable talent.
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He also had 200+ passing and 100+ rushing with 2 tds and no turnovers against the #12 team in the nation. There's no way that team walks into Wisconsin or Iowa and wins with Joe Bauserman instead of Pryor. It's only 2 games into the season and i admit he needs to improve I just don't think it's as drastic as you do. He has played well so maybe he can keep it up.
 
#33
#33
VolBuck24 said:
He also had 200+ passing and 100+ rushing with 2 tds and no turnovers against the #12 team in the nation. There's no way that team walks into Wisconsin or Iowa and wins with Joe Bauserman instead of Pryor. It's only 2 games into the season and i admit he needs to improve I just don't think it's as drastic as you do. He has played well so maybe he can keep it up.
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He had a solid last drive against Miami, and a couple of nice throws to Posey. He still threw about 7 balls up for grabs and it was lucky that no one happened to be there. He screwed up the Purdue game last year, badly. I hope he doesn't do it again, but he needs to learn that sometimes it's better to take a sack then just randomly throw the ball somewhere. The Heisman is generally about rewarding one of the best known players on one of the best teams, so he could win. I'm just saying that, barring drastic improvement, he'd probably be the worst to win in the award post Crouch.
 
#34
#34
tvolsfan said:
He had a solid last drive against Miami, and a couple of nice throws to Posey. He still threw about 7 balls up for grabs and it was lucky that no one happened to be there. He screwed up the Purdue game last year, badly. I hope he doesn't do it again, but he needs to learn that sometimes it's better to take a sack then just randomly throw the ball somewhere. The Heisman is generally about rewarding one of the best known players on one of the best teams, so he could win. I'm just saying that, barring drastic improvement, he'd probably be the worst to win in the award post Crouch.
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He did screw up Purdue, but the Oline was awful that game as well. If he does win it I don't think he would be a bad pick because for all we know he could play lights out the rest of the season. Also Crouch was very deserving of his Heisman, Palmer on the other hand wasn't IMO.
 
#35
#35
VolBuck24 said:
He did screw up Purdue, but the Oline was awful that game as well. If he does win it I don't think he would be a bad pick because for all we know he could play lights out the rest of the season. Also Crouch was very deserving of his Heisman, Palmer on the other hand wasn't IMO.
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As far as the bold, I'd agree that he could turn things around and do well. I was just saying his performance the last two games doesn't really scream 'Most Outstanding Player.' I didn't watch Crouch or Palmer much, so I'll reserve judgment on those two.
 
#36
#36
tvolsfan said:
As far as the bold, I'd agree that he could turn things around and do well. I was just saying his performance the last two games doesn't really scream 'Most Outstanding Player.' I didn't watch Crouch or Palmer much, so I'll reserve judgment on those two.
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That's fair. I do think that at some point in the season, Pryor will have to go out and win a game or two. I think he will be judged there the most. I think Crouch deserved it solely because he passed and rushed for over 1,000 yards. You could make a case for Grossman that year as well. Palmer had pretty good numbers, but I thought Banks had it wrapped up.
 
#39
#39
If he runs under a 4.5 at the combine I'll pay VolBuck 10 bucks for ever tenth of a second he's under.
 
#46
#46
Pryor has one of the more painful to watch throwing motions i've ever seen. So many fan bases dislike the guy, too.
 
#50
#50
VolBuck24 said:
Ted Ginn can fly as well. It would be closer than what you think IMO.
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It wouldn't be a blowout or anything. Make ted ginn catch a football first and he'd be all off his game.

basically, I don't think Ted Ginn is the 2nd fastest player in the NFL at all. But he was brought up because of tOSU fan stuff i know.
 
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