supreme court struck down law for child rape

#27
#27
Castration might make for a fitting punishment.
 
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#29
Oddly enough there was a Boston Legal on this very topic not too long ago. Now, I know citing a TV show isn't a very credible source, so don't accuse me of thinking this is 100% correct. However, the subject of debate on the show was a case something like this: An 18 year old man had consensual sex with a 16 year old girl. Under Louisiana law this was defined as child rape and the man was given the death penalty. So, uh, I'm not sure if that's really how things work down in the Bayou, but surely everyone can see the injustice in that. Again, I'm not really sure if that's how things work in the real world.

Anyway, I can only trust William Shatner so much. Perhaps a real lawyer could comment.
 
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allvol123 said:
So we equate justice as preventing future crimes from being committed by the perp and babysitting the criminals for the remainder of their lives?
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I'm pretty sure child molesters get the worst treatment possible in prison. It's a crime that's frowned upon by inmates.
 
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kptvol said:
I'm pretty sure child molesters get the worst treatment possible in prison. It's a crime that's frowned upon by inmates.
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Sure they do. Not sure if I consider that as justice served. I doubt they are subjected to a lifetime of daily beatings for their entire prison sentence.
 
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allvol123 said:
So we equate justice as preventing future crimes from being committed by the perp and babysitting the criminals for the remainder of their lives?
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I would imagine there's some punishment involved as well in being locked up for the rest of your life.

I'm not sure killing someone qualifies as justice either. If it's "eye for an eye", maybe the state should rape the molester or the molester's kid? :p
 
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volinbham said:
I would imagine there's some punishment involved as well in being locked up for the rest of your life.
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1) I am sure there is, but have already established a person of this nature does not view the world in the same way as most of us do.
2) I don't think punishment and justice necessarily are the same thing.
 
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allvol123 said:
1) I am sure there is, but have already established a person of this nature does not view the world in the same way as most of us do.
2) I don't think punishment and justice necessarily are the same thing.
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What if the perp wants the death penalty? Since we don't know his/her mind why assume the death penalty would be justice or punishment?

The ruling is based on crimes against individuals and appropriate punishment (per Constitution). Rape and murder are both heinous but quite different with the difference being rape victims are still alive - some suffer terribly and some suffer mildly. There are other non-murder crimes where long-term suffering occurs - should those also be subject to the death penalty?

A 5-4 decision indicates considerable debate on the issue. All I'm saying is that I'm not uncomfortable with the ruling as it came down. If it were reversed, I'd feel about the same.
 
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#36
Maybe we should rename it the Criminal Punishment System. Beyond the types of crimes we have talked about so far, what about crimes like theft? If someone steals my car and is caught and convicted, what does him serving time do for me? Is he responsible for paying me back for my car if he wrecked it or trashed it?
 
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#39
I defend civil cases brought by inmates against sheriffs for incidents and conditions in jail. I can tell you that in the local jails the biggest problem we have by far is that they are used to warehouse the mentally ill, particularly drug-addicted folks. It is an incredible waste of resources, but no one can run and win on a platform of raising local taxes to take care of crackheads. People don't undersztand that it costs them more in crime and corrections, but since when is short-sightedness a virtue in our system, right?
 
#40
#40
Hey, I say we just let these people go.*

*At a time and place disclosed to the family of the victim.
 
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