Tailgate Generator Question

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I'm now seriously considering the Westinghouse igen2500. I like the 2200 running watts and the warranty. https://www.lowes.com/pd/Westinghou...Generator-with-Westinghouse-Engine/1000279493

I have a Lowe's coupon I've been needing to use also.
I have not had long but impressed at times it ran it... it is the WH2000ixlt look at reviews on Home Depot.com If you look at specs and compare its hard to beat. I got mine on my Home Depot card. Before buying was really considering buying wheelhorse 2000 watt generator at northern tool and Wen. Think you will be happy with Westinghouse . I know Honda is more popular but Westinghouse does it for me and extra $500 in bank.
 
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As to an inverter setup, many choose to go the cheap route and purchase a small inverter from their local walmart. The cheap ones do one thing, they take DC current, from a battery and convert it to AC current (household) that can run TVs, blenders, and such. They will typically use a technology called square wave. While square wave will work sometimes sensitive electronics don't like it. Real household current is sine wave current and works better. Many get along fine with squarewave though.



With this type of inverter, you still need some way of charging your battery when it gets depleted. Obviously, you wouldn't want your battery to die during your tailgate so you must size your battery appropriately. I'll get into batteries later. To charge your batteries, you can just purchase a battery charger and hook it up when you get home using alligator clips. The better solution is to purchase a battery charger that is permanently hooked up where you just plug your setup into a wall outlet and leave it so it will be ready to go when you need it.

These inverters are rated in wattage so you need to figure up what you want to be able to run simultaneously. All your items you want run will have a rated wattage so you need to just add up all the wattages. Some things will have a starting wattage which will be higher. I can't think of anything off the top of my head that has a high starting wattage that would be used for tailgating but you need to keep this in mind. Most inverters will allow for some over wattages for a brief amount of time, under one second. Again, starting loads typically are not found in a tailgate situation so I wouldn't worry too much about those. I do think it's important to over size the inverter slightly, like 10-20%. So if you add up everything you want to use and it comes to 500W, go ahead go with the 750W model.

Now to batteries. Remember that the batteries are your fuel tank. Just like in a generator your fuel will eventually run out. Obviously you can't pour fuel into the batteries like you can a generator's fuel tank. So, having enough battery (fuel) to last all day is crucial for a good setup. This can be calculated as well. Batteries have an amp/hr rating, (similar to gallons of fuel in a tank). Each appliance you want to hook up has an amp rating as well. There are formulas on the internet to help determine how much battery capacity you need. One 12V Marine deep cycle will probably not get it done. Most of the nicer setups use 6V golf cart battery setups wiring two golf cart batteries in series and then multiple pairs in parallel. I prefer AGM batteries because of their long life span and how well they perform with many charge/discharge cycles. They do cost a lot more though. My guess would be if you had four 6V golf cart batteries that would make for an adequate setup.

Another thing often overlooked is battery cable size. You have to use big wire. I would use #6 stranded wire at a minimum. I use 4/0 for most of my setups but the inverters I use are typically 3000W setups. Also, it is important to fuse the main battery leads. On my big setups I use 400AMP fuses. In a small setup 50AMP should be sufficient. You can purchase a 50AMP auto-resetting circuit breaker at most autoparts stores. It is also important to use crimp or solder on terminals on all your connections. Simply stripping the wire back and shoving it under a wingnut is not the way to do it. Alligator clips suck as well.

If you really want to do it right, you can purchase a inverter/charger. They are significantly more expensive but they do everything. You can just plug them in and they charge the batteries and maintain them as well when not in use. You can also get a remote panel to monitor the status of everything.

The secret to a good setup though is permanently mounting the whole system. Batteries should be strapped down in battery boxes. The charger and inverter should be screwed to a board or something. They can get warm during operation so ventilation is a key as well. I've seen some really good systems mounted to one of those baskets that slide into a receiver hitch on a car. While quite heavy it worked really well and was very portable.

I realize this is probably not as convenient as a generator but having a power source that is almost completely silent and not having to deal with gasoline is pretty cool. Anyone interested in putting a system together, I'll be happy to offer advice.
I got the most expensive Everstart deep cycle battery at Walmart it was ether 29 dc or 31 for $99.99 and it lasted 5 years. I got new one last year as well as new 900 watt converter and had step tool box that was wide enough to put battery in. They preformed well but only tailgated no more than 6 hrs... mainly tv and satellite receiver and occasionally a box fan. Last season done a major tailgate party at Bristol and I rented generator because I had surround sound, TV, satellite, slow cooker and fan for 12 hours. This season decided I wanted more big time tailgate parties and needed to get a generator and never have to worry about running out of juice with generator ... just add gas.
 
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The slow cooker would have killed the battery in no time. Unless you have a huge battery bank the generator is definitely the way to go. Inductive loads (heating loads) are huge power consumers.
 
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The slow cooker would have killed the battery in no time. Unless you have a huge battery bank the generator is definitely the way to go. Inductive loads (heating loads) are huge power consumers.
For tv and satellite this is the way to go because I done it for years off of a black and decker 750 watt inverter and deep cycle battery. Never had any electrical issues for an average tailgate for 4-6 hrs. You can't ask for something quieter and cheaper than this setup. I only paid $75 for inverter, $100 for deep cycle battery and $25 for 20" stack on step n store tool box... to store battery. Right at $200 set up but can have smaller battery and inverter is less than $50 now and could have setup for less than $150.
 
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Was about to pull the trigger on the Westinghouse igen2500 and everywhere is sold out now. In stock dates range from Sept 11-29. Pissed.
 
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I've heard good things about the predator from harbor freight.
Quite a bit louder than Westinghouse at 52db compaired to 66 and for same price. I loved my Honda EU2000i but wanted a good quality generator cheaper and as quiet especially tailgating you want to quietest generator that you can find. Also considered Wheelhorse Northern Tool best selling 2000 watt inverter generator sells for 579-599 just according when you can catch it on sale. I choose Westinghouse WH2000ixlt because it was 100+ cheaper and great reviews and had a Home Depot card lol.
 
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Quite a bit louder than Westinghouse at 52db compaired to 66 and for same price. I loved my Honda EU2000i but wanted a good quality generator cheaper and as quiet especially tailgating you want to quietest generator that you can find. Also considered Wheelhorse Northern Tool best selling 2000 watt inverter generator sells for 579-599 just according when you can catch it on sale. I choose Westinghouse WH2000ixlt because it was 100+ cheaper and great reviews and had a Home Depot card lol.

Yes but can you wait? :)
 
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Have you checked Amazon? There are a bunch of them of different brands.
Need an Amazon credit card lol. I normally do Amazon after Christmas because I always ask for Amazon gift cards. Home Depot loves me in summer because I got lawn service and put everything on my card but normally payoff bill when season ends.
 
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Need an Amazon credit card lol. I normally do Amazon after Christmas because I always ask for Amazon gift cards. Home Depot loves me in summer because I got lawn service and put everything on my card but normally payoff bill when season ends.
Saw this at Rural King this weekend. Seems it's as quiet as the Honda.
 

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Saw this at Rural King this weekend. Seems it's as quiet as the Honda.
Just compair specs. Nice Generator but would compare my Westinghouse WH2000ixlt to more of a Honda
Westinghouse is quieter 52 db to Champion 53db
Weight Westinghouse 43 lbs Champion 48 lbs
Starting watts Westinghouse 2200 Champion 2000
Continuous watts Westinghouse 1800 champion 1700
And Run time 50% power Westinghouse 13 hrs Champion 4.75

I love my Westinghouse... I don't know and doubt it will last as long as Honda EU2000i but I paid half the price and this it is a good generator.
 
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Just compair specs. Nice Generator but would compare my Westinghouse WH2000ixlt to more of a Honda
Westinghouse is quieter 52 db to Champion 53db
Weight Westinghouse 43 lbs Champion 48 lbs
Starting watts Westinghouse 2200 Champion 2000
Continuous watts Westinghouse 1800 champion 1700
And Run time 50% power Westinghouse 13 hrs Champion 4.75

I love my Westinghouse... I don't know and doubt it will last as long as Honda EU2000i but I paid half the price and this it is a good generator.

Oh, I was under the impression that you couldn't get the generator for a month or two. I was just throwing out options.
 
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Oh, I was under the impression that you couldn't get the generator for a month or two. I was just throwing out options.
Not in stock for Westinghouse igen2500 but plenty of WH2000ixlt. Actually the WH2000ixlt specs are better especially slightly quieter and $100 cheaper.
 

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