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#26
#26
mattvols said:
You take away his one run really long run and his stats were much less substantial. Especially for 30 carries. I'll admit he did have an amazing performance that day but he is not a good back. One performance doesnt make a player. He's slow has no moves and for his 220 size, is not that powerful. Coker is tiny but fast and cant block. Hardesty is still hurt so we dont know if he will be effective. None of our backs are anything special. Coker is our best runner but he has other issues such as his size and him leaving the QB running for his life.
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I never said one performance made him great. Saying any of the other runners are better at this point is ridiculous. Coker hasn't done any more against good competition. Foster also had 3 surgeries after the 2005 season. He'll be in better health next year and should look better. He'll be fast enough to play HB. They all are, Coker is just exceptionally fast.
 
#28
#28
kptvol said:
I never said one performance made him great. Saying any of the other runners are better at this point is ridiculous. Coker hasn't done any more against good competition. Foster also had 3 surgeries after the 2005 season. He'll be in better health next year and should look better. He'll be fast enough to play HB. They all are, Coker is just exceptionally fast.
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My only point was that our backfield is far from stacked as someone said earlier.
 
#29
#29
mattvols said:
Coker is tiny but fast and cant block.
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mattvols said:
Coker has lost 5-10 lbs which is scary because he was small last year. He cant block at all either.
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I don't know what your definition of "tiny" is...but Coker's size is just fine for a running back. He's 5-foot-11, and 200-205 lbs. There are plenty of recent college backs with similar size who had very good careers:

Reggie Bush: 5-11, 200lbs.
Kenny Irons...5-10, 194lbs.
Darius Walker...5-10, 208lbs.
Antonio Pittman...5-11, 195lbs.
Kenneth Darby...5-11, 205lbs.
Lorenzo Booker...5-11, 195lbs.
Maurice Drew...5-7, 205lbs.
Jerious Norwood...5-11, 210lbs.

and there are plenty of others...It's nice to have a bruising 230 pounder, but Coker's size is not a concern.
 
#30
#30
his size is a major concern when there is a defensive end coming off the end and you dont have a fullback in your system. Coker left the quarterback out to dry a number of times last year. He can't block at all, and thats one of the reasons his playing time was limited last year. According to Hubbs he is much small then listed, and is around 185-190 range. I never said he couldnt run the ball I said he is far and away our best runner. But he isnt the best at the position in our system due to his lack of blocking skills.
 
#31
#31
mattvols said:
his size is a major concern when there is a defensive end coming off the end and you dont have a fullback in your system. Coker left the quarterback out to dry a number of times last year. He can't block at all, and thats one of the reasons his playing time was limited last year. According to Hubbs he is much small then listed, and is around 185-190 range. I never said he couldnt run the ball I said he is far and away our best runner. But he isnt the best at the position in our system due to his lack of blocking skills.
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Fulmer doesn't like to play freshman backs because apparently they usually aren't able to master the blocking required of a HB in UT's offense. I'd say he'll be improved in that area next season.
 
#32
#32
Coker didnt block and losing weight cant help him. Him improved is still a poor blocking back, he was aweful at it last year. Fulmer played Foster early, Foster is a fine blocking back, as was Hardesty as a freshman. Coker is just particularly bad at that.
 
#33
#33
mattvols said:
Coker didnt block and losing weight cant help him. Him improved is still a poor blocking back, he was aweful at it last year. Fulmer played Foster early, Foster is a fine blocking back, as was Hardesty as a freshman. Coker is just particularly bad at that.
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Maybe we'll see Holbert on the field at FB when Coker is in the game. Maybe Coker will be split out wide a lot. Maybe he just won't be in the backfield on very many passing plays. I don't know. Anyway, I think Foster is going to be the starter.
 
#34
#34
What point are you trying to prove, or are you just trying to arguing with me? My point was that we dont have a stacked backfield as someone state earlier. What you stated above is very likely. Coker cant lineup at receiver every time we throw the ball though or its a dead giveaway.
 
#35
#35
mattvols said:
What point are you trying to prove, or are you just trying to arguing with me? My point was that we dont have a stacked backfield as someone state earlier. What you stated above is very likely. Coker cant lineup at receiver every time we throw the ball though or its a dead giveaway.
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I've never believed our backfield is stacked. I don't see the Coker blocking issue to be a huge problem. It sounds like the coaches are trying to find ways to use him other than the traditional HB role. That is probably due to his athleticism, and his blocking liability. I'm merely trying to downplay the issue. I don't think his blocking will be that big of a concern, because I don't think he'll be asked to do it very often.
 
#36
#36
I never said you said our backfield was stacked. The subtraction of a full time FB from our system actually makes the issue all the more relevant. He will be used more than the traditional RB but he will have problems when he is playing the traditional runningback system and not just running or lining up at receiver.
 
#37
#37
mattvols said:
I never said you said our backfield was stacked. The subtraction of a full time FB from our system actually makes the issue all the more relevant. He will be used more than the traditional RB but he will have problems when he is playing the traditional runningback system and not just running or lining up at receiver.
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We'll still have an H-Back in Chris Brown or David Holbert that can move back to the FB spot if Coker is back there and require help. Again, if Coker is too much of a liability back there, he won't see much time as a traditional halfback.
 
#38
#38
Not necessarily. In the shotgun their will hardly ever be an H-back back there to protect with him. Coker wont be an everydown back due to his size and blocking ability so he wont play a whole lot more than he did last year. If Foster though manages to break out and be better and a 3 yards a carry back then Coker will see less time at RB and a whole lot more in the slot catching the ball. I dont see us having to much of a better run game than last year. We lost our best lineman, and our 3 backs are barely even average in my opinion.
 
#39
#39
I can see Coker lineing up in the backfield then going out in motion to the slot using 2 TE sets to make up for the blocking.
 
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