Te'a cooper

[madtownvol]

Well none of that applies to me so take it on home where it belongs.

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Originally Posted by madtownvol View Post
So, Holly says that Te'a will miss the season due to a knee injury and you took it to mean that Cooper and her reps are contemplating a transfer. That is an interesting extrapolation..

Did you actually watch the interview ? I think not otherwise you would most probably have reached the same conclusion.

Alrighty then. But going home is a nice sentiment that has inspired many great songs, like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09dQmeB_NgU

 

[PineyBluff Vol]

First and foremost, get better Te'a.

Folks, classes start soon so we'll know if Cooper is enrolled or not. Holly is restricted by law on how much she can reveal concerning the injury.

I'm thinking this may actually be a good thing. Te'a and Diamond tend to forget their three other teammates when they're on the floor together. Holly will have one less option to overwhelm her on-court substituting frenzy. We need to stick to a solid rotation this year. I'm hoping Reynolds can breakout fully and reach her full potential.

This is going to be an interesting team. Much motivation with Pat's passing. Holly's future on the line. Diamond's attitude adjustment and skill honing during the off-season? Mercedes strength improvement? Meme's emergence? The newcomer additions, especially Nunn? Nared's maturation? Middleton's opportunity?

Should be entertaining.

The following quote of yours is why I think this will be a terrible year..."This is going to be an interesting team. Much motivation with Pat's passing. Holly's future on the line. Diamond's attitude adjustment and skill honing during the off-season? Mercedes strength improvement? Meme's emergence? The newcomer additions, especially Nunn? Nared's maturation? Middleton's opportunity?", I do not see these things happening with the current coaching staff and the present philosophy of Warlick. I think this year will be very similar to last simply because all the pieces that were in place last year will very much resemble what Holly puts on the floor this year.

 

[Hoya Saxa]

I think this year will be very similar to last simply because all the pieces that were in place last year will very much resemble what Holly puts on the floor this year.

It will be last year's team without Graves, Carter, and Cooper. Graves was really good and will be missed. Carter wasn't very effective last year because of her chronic health problems. Cooper's absence may actually help improve on-court team chemistry. She will have a year to observe and mature into a team-first player. None of the additions were highly rated, so I'm not sure how they will adjust to SEC play. Fortunately for the newbies, the schedule this year isn't that tough. They can be brought along slowly.

 

[madtownvol]

It will be last year's team without Graves, Carter, and Cooper. Graves was really good and will be missed. Carter wasn't very effective last year because of her chronic health problems. Cooper's absence may actually help improve on-court team chemistry. She will have a year to observe and mature into a team-first player. None of the additions were highly rated, so I'm not sure how they will adjust to SEC play. Fortunately for the newbies, the schedule this year isn't that tough. They can be brought along slowly.

I can't see any upside from not having Te'a. She would have been a year more experienced; not sure, why her absence would improve team chemistry. By the end of the season, Te'a was doing a nice job in distributing the ball and making good decision on when to shoot and pass. She has potential to be a game changing player and her absence, puts more pressure on Diamond and Middleton who is going to have to step up. I hope that Dunbar has taken some steps toward become a more well-rounded player so she can also stay on the floor more.

 

[ladyvosl23]

Well I hope middleton has found another move besides that obvious ball fake only to try to shoot a lay up to get blocked or bounce it off the back board. hope the coach taught her that wont work in the sec

 

[LadyVol1908]

Well I hope middleton has found another move besides that obvious ball fake only to try to shoot a lay up to get blocked or bounce it off the back board. hope the coach taught her that wont work in the sec

I literally chocked on my drink from laughing so hard cause I know the EXACT move you're talking about. I swear at the end of last season I said to myself when she did it and got blocked...."Love bug has to find some other moves next year".....I hope she has made strides cause she's shown how good of a floor general she could be, she just has to play smarter cause she's not the most athletic of guards.

 

[ladyvosl23]

She just needs to be in my opinion a pass first point guard and work on an mid range game and 3 point shot. but more like bobbit who shot the ball when it was moved around and came back to her and she was open

 

[PineyBluff Vol]

It will be last year's team without Graves, Carter, and Cooper. Graves was really good and will be missed. Carter wasn't very effective last year because of her chronic health problems. Cooper's absence may actually help improve on-court team chemistry. She will have a year to observe and mature into a team-first player. None of the additions were highly rated, so I'm not sure how they will adjust to SEC play. Fortunately for the newbies, the schedule this year isn't that tough. They can be brought along slowly.

I am not knocking any of these players. Did Cooper even see the floor? Basharra was excellent her first year, after that, I think too much was ask of her and she started having problems, physical and mental. Carter is one of the players with great potential and also was asked to do more than she could too soon. I don't think these players are bad, just badly coached. That leads to a number of players who only saw clean up duty or "hair on fire" rescue effort for a losing coached team. I can't see these players stepping into first team rolls, simply because they have not progressed any further than they were last year. Gee, I hope I am wrong, however, as I stated, nothing has change, except the year, Coaching is the same, attitude is the same, results will be the same.

 

[Amb3096]

I am not knocking any of these players. Did Cooper even see the floor? Basharra was excellent her first year, after that, I think too much was ask of her and she started having problems, physical and mental. Carter is one of the players with great potential and also was asked to do more than she could too soon. I don't think these players are bad, just badly coached. That leads to a number of players who only saw clean up duty or "hair on fire" rescue effort for a losing coached team. I can't see these players stepping into first team rolls, simply because they have not progressed any further than they were last year. Gee, I hope I am wrong, however, as I stated, nothing has change, except the year, Coaching is the same, attitude is the same, results will be the same.

Cooper was the fourth leading scorer on the team, so her absence hurts. Carter, not as much. She rarely affected the game either way, so it's not asking much of Jackson to replace her productivity. Middleton will need to look for her shot, and will need to average at least 8-9 ppg and has to be an effective outside shooter.

In addition to Diamond, Nared and Mercedes having to improve significantly, Schaquila Nunn and Kamera Harris will be counted on heavily this year. Those are the two, particularly Nunn, that will have the greatest impact on how the team does, all other things remaining equal. Nunn essentially replaces last year's #2 scorer and leading rebounder. She needs to be able to put up 12 pts 9 rbs a game for Tennessee to be a top 10 team.

 

[ladyvosl23]

diamond, nared and mercedes has to be our top 3 players . If everyone else can hit an open jumper jordan can be number 4 and nunn 5. we can easily make noise. we need middelton to hit open jumper as well as jackson. harris will see the floor as we dont have options . Dunbar could see a lot of minutes its not holly fault dunbar is just a stationary shooter she is easy to guard she does not put the ball on floor does not post up or have post moves, does not have a two dribble then pull up like Spencer or spani. lets not forget she does not rebound she averaged 1 re bound last year and is not great on defense.

 

[ATLVolFan06]

diamond, nared and mercedes has to be our top 3 players . If everyone else can hit an open jumper jordan can be number 4 and nunn 5. we can easily make noise. we need middelton to hit open jumper as well as jackson. harris will see the floor as we dont have options . Dunbar could see a lot of minutes its not holly fault dunbar is just a stationary shooter she is easy to guard she does not put the ball on floor does not post up or have post moves, does not have a two dribble then pull up like Spencer or spani. lets not forget she does not rebound she averaged 1 re bound last year and is not great on defense.

But thats where the coaching comes in... put her in a position to do things she does well and on defense put her in a place where she wont be a liability. On offense i'd run her off some screens and when she's in use her big and strong body on the block by playing a zone on defense.... coach has to find a way use her 3 point shooting ability. KD has range.

 

[ladyvosl23]

as a player you have to put in work. one one wants a one dimensional player you have to be an asset

 

[Amb3096]

diamond, nared and mercedes has to be our top 3 players .

It's more than that. They have to be good. At a minimum, those three will probably need to average a combined 45 points in order to make Tennessee a competitive team, unless the rest of the team miraculously learned how to shoot the ball...and this is asking a lot because neither Diamond nor Jaime were particularly efficient with their shots.

Whoever is playing the high post, and I assume that will be Nunn, needs to be a double digit scorer. That's a more realistic expectation than for Jordan to all of a sudden learn how to shoot a basketball.

 

[Pat4life]

For Jordan it's all mental, and confidence. I guess the only upside is more minutes for Middleton, Jackson, but losing Te'a hurt, her ability to get to the paint.

If Jordan balls, like we know she can, the Lady Vols would be fine, starters are gonna have to play a lot of minutes like all the other Great teams around the country.

Jordan was starting to play better basketball down the stretch, especially in the NCAA tourneys, let's hope she keeps moving forward.

Te'a only upside, she gets a year to work on her game, opponents won't have film.

It's not all about great shooters all the time, more time than not its about the team being patient enough to get the best shot, they want to take from the player they want taking it, like they did in the NCAAs.

Team basketball, solves a lot of offensive woes, we just have to be an efficient team, movement, ball reversal, cuts, screens, like we were in the NCAAs, if Nared and Reynolds come back ready, we shud be fine.

When its a player that everyone knew would contribute the upcoming season, it cud help, cos it force other players to step up, and it happened early enough so the team and players can adjust and prepare for life without Te'a rather than it being midseason.

 

[Amb3096]

For Jordan it's all mental, and confidence. I guess the only upside is more minutes for Middleton, Jackson, but losing Te'a hurt, her ability to get to the paint.

If Jordan balls, like we know she can, the Lady Vols would be fine, starters are gonna have to play a lot of minutes like all the other Great teams around the country.

Jordan was starting to play better basketball down the stretch, especially in the NCAA tourneys, let's hope she keeps moving forward.

Te'a only upside, she gets a year to work on her game, opponents won't have film.

It's not all about great shooters all the time, more time than not its about the team being patient enough to get the best shot, they want to take from the player they want taking it, like they did in the NCAAs.

Team basketball, solves a lot of offensive woes, we just have to be an efficient team, movement, ball reversal, cuts, screens, like we were in the NCAAs, if Nared and Reynolds come back ready, we shud be fine.

When it a player it cud help, cos it force others to step up, and it happened early enough so the team can adjust and prepare for life without Te'a rather than it being midseason.

Jordan cannot consistently score off anything but layups, and she rarely goes all the way to the hoop. She can free herself up for an open 10 foot jumper just about whenever she wants to, but she can't make that shot.

It's not mental. She has a horrible jump shot and save for an odd game here and there where she hits a few jumpers, she is generally an offensive liability.

She needs to get in the gym and learn how to shoot and make shots.

 

[Pat4life]

Yep. You are right. Those are your opinions.

She shud bodied other guards especially if they are playing man to man, take them to the rack, especially with her frame. Dena Head, made a living taking smaller guards to the paint, and became an All American.

You can say that for the whole team, being offensive liabilities if we look at last season.

But I stand behind what I said, for Jordan its mental, she has so much game, she rarely shows it, one of those players where it don't translate to the game, once she feels and play like she belongs, she'll be ok and Nared, Russell and Diamond, are helpin to instill that and u saw it late in the season, Jordan guard play was good enough to get us to the Elite 8, and without her we looked like ****. I thot she was playing her most consistent basketball in the NCAAs, last year. Here's to Moving Forward.

If she is aggressive, and expect to score she'll be fine. Jordan became the pace setter, which got us in our offensive flow late in the season, so sometimes its intangibles, she found her team's rhythym late in the season. Good for her.

 

[Pat4life]

I think she is going to have a great year, barring injuries. I think she is going have a solid senior season we come to expect from Lady Vols guards who have played a lot for four years.

 

[Pat4life]

If our guards improve their handles and passing, instantly we become a better team without Te'a. If all of our the guards and wings just improve their ball handling and passing skills. We can be a final four team.

And all the ladies have a couple years in Holly's system, and I think it finally makes sense, its tradition Lady Vols basketball with a twist.

 

[Amb3096]

Yep. You are right. Those are your opinions.

She shud bodied other guards especially if they are playing man to man, take them to the rack, especially with her frame. Dena Head, made a living taking smaller guards to the paint, and became an All American.

You can say that for the whole team, being offensive liabilities if we look at last season.

But I stand behind what I said, for Jordan its mental, she has so much game, she rarely shows it, one of those players where it don't translate to the game, once she feels and play like she belongs, she'll be ok and Nared, Russell and Diamond, are helpin to instill that and u saw it late in the season, Jordan guard play was good enough to get us to the Elite 8, and without her we looked like ****. I thot she was playing her most consistent basketball in the NCAAs, last year. Here's to Moving Forward.

If she is aggressive, and expect to score she'll be fine. Jordan became the pace setter, which got us in our offensive flow late in the season, so sometimes its intangibles, she found her team's rhythym late in the season. Good for her.

It's not an opinion that she can't shoot; it's a fact. She doesn't take a lot of 3 point shots, yet she still can't shoot over 40%. Teams leave her wide open all day and all night daring her to shoot, and she is unable to take advantage of the open shots. She can get into the paint for a short jumper whenever she wants to, but she doesn't hit the shot enough times to make teams defend her more tightly. About the only way she has shown she can score is to cut to the basket when her defender leaves her to double team the post. All of the other offensive plays you suggest make sense, but she has yet to show that she has the skills to make those moves.

Expecting that to drastically change for her senior year without a significant amount of work put into learning how to shoot is unrealistic.

 

[Pat4life]

The feedback has been good, cos I've been asking former players, most of them were motivated and excited from the hard work being displayed by our ladies, sum said this was the first time in long time, that that were this many players working hard.

So, hopefully this team jels faster than last year, the lost of Te'a and Draya is going to hurt, production from the four spot, will let us know how much those losses hurt.

Cos, that small guard lineup, was good for the Lady Vols late last year, the four guard lineup.

We have to able to go, 3/2 and 4/1....No Five out this year with Graves at the 5.

With Coop and Draya, it makes the offense, very limited, so now fundamentals are key.

4/1
Reynolds
Middleton/Jackson only sub(please got better)
Diamond
Nared/ Dunbar
Russell

Yeah its going to be interesting... U can never have too many guards.

 

[Pat4life]

I've never seen teams leave her open, and shooting is confidence. So, its kewl. Jordan has shown glimpse of a very good basketball player, and who knows, maybe she does get it, maybe it might be next year, maybe its three years from now playing ball overseas. who knows.

Right now, 3 point shot don't dictate if a team is good, cos we were beating team by not shooting the three, just by playing solid defense and being an efficient offensive team, once our ladies started playing team ball, we became a better offensive team and ladies defense was solid most of the year.

Welp. I saw Jordan getting better late last season, especially vs ASU and OSU... here's to progression. I forgot Lady Vols players don't get better anymore. Fire Holly.

 

[Pat4life]

But if Diamond plays like the National Player of the Year, she can hide a lot of ills, if the ladies Defend and Rebound, which means they will be in most games.

 

[Coach Jumper]

.....Team basketball, solves a lot of offensive woes, we just have to be an efficient team, movement, ball reversal, cuts, screens, like we were in the NCAAs, if Nared and Reynolds come back ready, we shud be fine...

That is the part I like P4.

That magical word, movement.
There are drills for this.

 

[Darth_Vol]

I am not knocking any of these players. Did Cooper even see the floor?

Did you even watch the games? Cooper was an All-SEC freshman. She is easily the most talented guard on the roster with the most upside. Losing her is a devastating blow to an already subpar backcourt...

 

[Real Info]

Can we really survive with only nine players? I like the nine we have, but if anything happens we are in trouble. Can they bring in anyone this late?