Team 118 Depth Chart

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I have to admit I haven't heard anything about "Colton Jumper"... is that Bates' "Porn" name ???
 
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pharmDvol11 said:
Um well if you watched any UT football last year Swafford was a CB and now he's playing safety. The correct response is "Wuh? Swafford > Coleman"
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Well, Swafford is currently our best option at safety aside from Randolph. The depth chart released reflects a 4-3 front. However, we will likely play a lot of nickel, meaning Coleman will be our nickel DB.
So a backfield of Sutton and Moseley/Williams at CB, Randolph and Swafford at safety, Coleman at nickel. Not too bad.
 
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RxVol37055 said:
Sal is gone
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So is the chance in anyone ever doing this...

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615vols said:
Well, Swafford is currently our best option at safety aside from Randolph. The depth chart released reflects a 4-3 front. However, we will likely play a lot of nickel, meaning Coleman will be our nickel DB.
So a backfield of Sutton and Moseley/Williams at CB, Randolph and Swafford at safety, Coleman at nickel. Not too bad.
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It's kind of odd not seeing Moseley or Williams starting opposite Cam in our base defense. You can coachspeak all you want but you're at least 50% surprised. And it doesn't say Nickel next to Coleman. It says cornerback.
 
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Power T-Rev said:
I'm glad to see Swafford, not McNeil. McNeil is a little slow

I was surprised to see Coleman opposite Cam at CB. Thought Michael Williams or Moseley were going to win that position
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I think this depth chart is predicated on us lining up in a base 4-3, when in actuality we'll be in nickel 90% of the time. Therefore, I think we see Maggitt slide to DE, Coleman to nickel and either Williams or Moseley to the CB opposite Sutton. Jmo.
 
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pharmDvol11 said:
It's kind of odd not seeing Moseley or Williams starting opposite Cam in our base defense. You can coachspeak all you want but you're at least 50% surprised. And it doesn't say Nickel next to Coleman. It says cornerback.
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I'm telling you. We will play nickel a lot, and Coleman will be at nickel. This doesn't suprise me because all of fall camp, Coleman has been taking his reps at nickel while Moseley and Williams took reps at the other corner spot.
 
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KBVol said:
I think this depth chart is predicated on us lining up in a base 4-3, when in actuality we'll be in nickel 90% of the time. Therefore, I think we see Maggitt slide to DE, Coleman to nickel and either Williams or Moseley to the CB opposite Sutton. Jmo.
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This, this, and this.
 
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#38
Even in the 4-3 Coleman won't be opposite cam at corner he is strictly a nickel back. Swafford is decent but will eventually be replaced by kelly. I actually like our defense but I'm extremely concerned with gilliam at lt. The rest of the line should be decent and I'm super excited about our wrs and rbs.
 
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lookin at this depth chart, with all the previous talk about Curt playing DE and a big guy many thought of as a DT plaing DE...I think we will see a lot of under front ran this year. With Barnett in a 5 and Maggitt as a 9
 
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Where's Downs at TE on the depth chart? Is he injured still or something I don't know? I know he's not favored to start now with the arrival of Wolf & Helm but he still should see the field a lot. What's up with him?

And, we still don't know who our #1 place kicker is either! Please let it be Medley. What's up with these Or's on the depth chart? Bullocks OR Medley? Ellis or Helm? Peterman OR Dobbs? Is the decision that close to call still 6 days before kickoff for some of these positions? :ermm:
 
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tonybologna said:
Where's Downs at TE on the depth chart? Is he injured still or something I don't know? I know he's not favored to start now with the arrival of Wolf & Helm but he still should see the field a lot. What's up with him?
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I remember reading positive things about Ellis a couple different times in fall camp. Maybe he's excellent on run plays. Honestly, I think helm and wolf have the versatility to see a huge bulk of the snaps.
 
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005 said:
I remember reading positive things about Ellis a couple different times in fall camp. Maybe he's excellent on run plays. Honestly, I think helm and wolf have the versatility to see a huge bulk of the snaps.
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I'm just surprised that Downs is not listed on the 3 deep at TE. That's why I assumed he might still be lagging from injury. He just might be used in certain situations more this season because the talent at TE has gotten so much better now.
 
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tonybologna said:
I'm just surprised that Downs is not listed on the 3 deep at TE. That's why I assumed he might still be lagging from injury. He just might be used in certain situations more this season because the talent at TE has gotten so much better now.
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Give him a medical scholarship and welcome 25 new faces to the team.
 
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#46
can someone explain the 4-2-5 for me? Or at least give me what it's suppose to do? It seems like we are going after the run more, right?
 
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Dougie_D said:
can someone explain the 4-2-5 for me? Or at least give me what it's suppose to do? It seems like we are going after the run more, right?
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I think we are just going run a lot if nickel. But a 4-2-4 is essentially a fancy new name for the 4-4.
 
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Vol8188 said:
lookin at this depth chart, with all the previous talk about Curt playing DE and a big guy many thought of as a DT plaing DE...I think we will see a lot of under front ran this year. With Barnett in a 5 and Maggitt as a 9
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Even though I agree with you that this is entirely possible, if we start running under fronts it nearly guarantees we will play zone. Lining Maggit past the TE in a 9 technique means AJ either has to cover the TE or a S has to man cover him. Since I'm no where convinced that AJ can consistently cover a TE, that leaves you with playing a zone or man covering TEs with a S. By playing an under you are also susceptible to the run through the B gap on the strong side. Since we already will have problems stopping teams from running up the middle on us, that nearly guarntees that AJ will have to play zone to cover the run through the B gap, otherwise we are going to give up huge runs. Our best bet in terms of generating pass rush is to do it up the middle and on the edge. We have the speed now in our secondary to plug the box with 7-8 players and force teams to throw outside on us or run sweeps and tosses to the outside. Speed cures all things for us on defense, and I believe that's why Willams and Swafford have taken over starting spots. Our best pass rushing will come in the nickel with Maggit and Veeren on the edge. That lineup should allow for multiple fronts because Veeren and Maggit both posses the ability to stand up or play fingers down.
 
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keckjm said:
Even though I agree with you that this is entirely possible, if we start running under fronts it nearly guarantees we will play zone. Lining Maggit past the TE in a 9 technique means AJ either has to cover the TE or a S has to man cover him. Since I'm no where convinced that AJ can consistently cover a TE, that leaves you with playing a zone or man covering TEs with a S. By playing an under you are also susceptible to the run through the B gap on the strong side. Since we already will have problems stopping teams from running up the middle on us, that nearly guarntees that AJ will have to play zone to cover the run through the B gap, otherwise we are going to give up huge runs. Our best bet in terms of generating pass rush is to do it up the middle and on the edge. We have the speed now in our secondary to plug the box with 7-8 players and force teams to throw outside on us or run sweeps and tosses to the outside. Speed cures all things for us on defense, and I believe that's why Willams and Swafford have taken over starting spots. Our best pass rushing will come in the nickel with Maggit and Veeren on the edge. That lineup should allow for multiple fronts because Veeren and Maggit both posses the ability to stand up or play fingers down.
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You can bump the guard to a 2i technique to narrow the b gap bubble or move the 5 down to a 4. Plenty of teams man un the 9 on a TE, but ultimately most teams don't base out of man to man defense and neither should we.

I'm also not sure how the MLB playing man or zone prevents him from running through b gap on run. In an over front C gap is your bubble, and a much longer run for the MLB than B gap is. Also we've been raped off tackle and outside lately. So a big body in C gap may be a good thing.
 
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Vol8188 said:
You can bump the guard to a 2i technique to narrow the b gap bubble or move the 5 down to a 4. Plenty of teams man un the 9 on a TE, but ultimately most teams don't base out of man to man defense and neither should we.

I'm also not sure how the MLB playing man or zone prevents him from running through b gap on run. In an over front C gap is your bubble, and a much longer run for the MLB than B gap is. Also we've been raped off tackle and outside lately. So a big body in C gap may be a good thing.
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I'm not sure why you would want your MLB in an over front covering a C gap. You run both DT in a 2 technique and that should allow the MLB to guard both A gaps, the WLB the B gap on weak side, and the SLB the C gap on strong side. That's kind of the problem though because you can't really argue these things fully because there is multiple ways to line your DEs up which alters everything. You technically could run 7 techniques for both DEs and then 1 technique a NT and 3 technique a DT. That's kind of the fun of talking about this because there's more then one way to do these things. You seam to know more about this then I do though so I'll just shut up now and listen before I dig myself a gigantic hole.
 
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