Tennesse moves up in bracket matrix

#28
#28
Sitting at an RPI of 60, we (obviously) are entering a crucial stretch. It would be huge if we could get a win against UK or FL, in order to move the needle a little.

Of our 16 remaining games, 9 of those are against teams with RPIs worse than 100. Only 5 games against teams with better than 50 (and 2 of those are Missouri clinging at 47). While there are plenty of games left, there's not a ton of quality wins left to be had if we fail to capitalize on Kentucky of FL.
 
#29
#29
bleedingTNorange said:
This one of those cases where everyone is wrong except you?
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No, you're right. You're always right. I'm wrong.

But be my guest and continue to go on believing in coach Zo and his powers to motivate if you like and use whatever matrices and articles you can dig up on the internet to back you up in this belief.

I, on the other hand, will choose to think otherwise and be comfortable with it, no matter how wrong I am.

Go Vols!
 
#30
#30
Watching the team or season through a bunch of random %'s and stats seems like a blast. You can see whatever you want to see, regardless of what happens on the court.
Hey, at least Maymon has a great ft rate though. Like I said then, we don't want him on the line at the end of a game and that's all that matters in the end. It may have mattered enough to keep us out of the tourney.
 
#31
#31
volgrad500 said:
Sitting at an RPI of 60, we (obviously) are entering a crucial stretch. It would be huge if we could get a win against UK or FL, in order to move the needle a little.

Of our 16 remaining games, 9 of those are against teams with RPIs worse than 100. Only 5 games against teams with better than 50 (and 2 of those are Missouri clinging at 47). While there are plenty of games left, there's not a ton of quality wins left to be had if we fail to capitalize on Kentucky of FL.
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It's at 56, but your point remains. I says 4-2 after our first 6 should be a success, losing to A&M made that goal a bit more difficult obviously. Stealing 1 of those 2 games you mentioned, and obviously winning the other 2 would be a nice consolation for blowing the A&M game.
 
#32
#32
esarmstrong said:
No, you're right. You're always right. I'm wrong.

But be my guest and continue to go on believing in coach Zo and his powers to motivate if you like and use whatever matrices and articles you can dig up on the internet to back you up in this belief.

I, on the other hand, will choose to think otherwise and be comfortable with it, no matter how wrong I am.

Go Vols!
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Nothing in my post had to do with my belief in coach Martin or his "powers to motivate", is that your go to when you're wrong? Change the subject and quickly become a defensive 7 year old girl?

My post was simply to let you know that the bracket matrix is made up of more than 1 bracket. It's used commonly because it takes a lot of people's opinions, and presents it in a way that is easily viewable.

It's of a lot of peoples opinion that on this date Tennessee would be in the tourney, that's all my point was. You seemed to think it was one persons opinion, and didn't quite understand what the bracket matrix was, I was trying to educate you.
 
#33
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bleedingTNorange said:
It's at 56, but your point remains. I says 4-2 after our first 6 should be a success, losing to A&M made that goal a bit more difficult obviously. Stealing 1 of those 2 games you mentioned, and obviously winning the other 2 would be a nice consolation for blowing the A&M game.
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It's gonna be an interesting finish-you can see a scenario where the final Missouri game is basically a play in game.

BTW, unless I'm looking at this wrong (possible) ESPN has our RPI at 60.
NCAA College Basketball RPI Rankings - ESPN
 
#34
#34
volgrad500 said:
It's gonna be an interesting finish-you can see a scenario where the final Missouri game is basically a play in game.

BTW, unless I'm looking at this wrong (possible) ESPN has our RPI at 60.
NCAA College Basketball RPI Rankings - ESPN
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You're looking at that right, however I think espn updates every couple days, or at most once a day.

Rpiforecast.com updates every couple minutes, we are at 56 as of a few minutes ago
 
#35
#35
bleedingTNorange said:
If you click the link you'd see you're wrong
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I clicked the link and studied it throughly. The matrix was from 01/13 but some of the individual members brackets were done before the A&M game.

There is also a very obvious flaw in the composite. The average seed is only accounting for the individual brackets that show us getting into the tournament. There are 10 brackets that do not show us making the tournament at all but those members are just tossed like they don't exist.

I just do not see how this is a reliable indicator of which lower tier seeds will actually make the tournament.
 
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#36
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GLDunlap said:
I clicked the link and studied it throughly. The matrix was from 01/13 but some of the individual members brackets were done before the A&M game.

There is also a very obvious flaw in the composite. The average seed is only accounting for the individual brackets that show us getting into the tournament. There are 10 brackets that do not show us making the tournament at all.
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Correct. Of the ones after A&M game, are we in the majority?
 
#37
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bleedingTNorange said:
Correct. Of the ones after A&M game, are we in the majority?
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Of the reporting brackets undoubtedly done after the A&M game 20 of them have us in 8 have us out so yes I guess that's a majority but there's no room for error and that's a problem for this team. The average seed is irrelevant if we don't make the tournament.

I admit I have little faith in CCM getting this team prepared to play every game down the stretch.
 
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#38
#38
bleedingTNorange said:
It's at 56, but your point remains. I says 4-2 after our first 6 should be a success, losing to A&M made that goal a bit more difficult obviously. Stealing 1 of those 2 games you mentioned, and obviously winning the other 2 would be a nice consolation for blowing the A&M game.
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Realtime rpi has us at 57.
 
#40
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GLDunlap said:
Of the reporting brackets undoubtedly done after the A&M game 20 of them have us in 8 have us out so yes I guess that's a majority but there's no room for error and that's a problem for this team. The average seed is irrelevant if we don't make the tournament.

I would be curious to know what our average seed was at the end of last season.

I admit I have little faith in CCM getting this team prepared to play every game down the stretch.
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Last year we were projected in like 2 or 3 brackets iirc
 
#41
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bleedingTNorange said:
Last year we were projected in like 2 or 3 brackets iirc
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Found it after my post. At the end of the season we were projected in on 14 brackets all as a 12 seed however we were out on 24 brackets.

I guess your point is that the A&M loss isn't a death nail and in that I agree but it certainly narrowed our window.
 
#42
#42
Bottom line...regardless of current bracket projections or rpi bs, there's no excuse for this team to be a bubble team this year. Anything less than a sweet 16 trip and CCM needs to be shown the door!
 
#43
#43
GLDunlap said:
Found it after my post. At the end of the season we were projected in on 14 brackets all as a 12 seed however we were out on 24 brackets.

I guess your point is that the A&M loss isn't a death nail and in that I agree but it certainly narrowed our window.
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Agree completely
 
#44
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lostsheep said:
Bottom line...regardless of current bracket projections or rpi bs, there's no excuse for this team to be a bubble team this year. Anything less than a sweet 16 trip and CCM needs to be shown the door!
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Where we are right now, I'd host the man a parade if he got us to the sweet 16.
 
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