Tennessean article with player quotes

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'I followed up on that with James to ask who was counting the Vols out.

“There were just people talking on social media,” he said. “Sometimes you don’t seek it out, but things get back to you. Things get sent to you.”

To remember that enough from November to mention it unsolicited after a loss in March, I’d suspect it wasn’t from random hoops aficionados. I’d imagine critics were probably from Tennessee’s own fanbase. And if you think the players on your teams don’t hear that stuff, well, they do.'

This is just BS. Good players may hear what’s being said, but they sure don’t let it affect their game. Not unless their just a snowflake. Good players also don’t mind getting pulled when they’re not playing well. They know they deserve it, and they take that time to get their mind right to compete as they should.
 
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I don't disagree, but when two of our three teams that have reached the Sweet Sixteen over the past decade feel that a significant part of our fanbase is against them, there's a problem.
Yeah, I certainly hope they don’t/didn’t feel that way. I thought Cuonzo was somewhat responsible for that on 2013-14 team as he took criticism of him and made it out like fans were after the players. I just don’t remember that being the case. I thought he deflected responsibility for the lackluster season they were having and then when they made that run they kind of started going at the fan base, which I thought was misguided. However, you are correct that it’s a problem if players feel that way.
 
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For most of the year, our players ( with exception of Plav and ZZ), played with little emotion, little energy, and lack of desire. They never seemed to play with a deep competitiveness, or commitment to win.
Lackadaisical attitude in most games (other than Duke and Texas). Is this a result of coaching style or just the players' natural emotions?
 
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I think our having 4 seniors was actually a disadvantage. They have seen for four years how we underachieve in the postseason, not counting the sec tournament championship. Also 4 years in barnes system puts a lot of miles on you. Fau just played like they had nothing to lose, and their shots started falling at the right time. I'm disappointed but when Z went down I wouldn't have been surprised if we had lost in the 1st round.
 
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Well, if your feelings are still hurt from social media 4 months ago, no wonder you wilted on the big stage….

Well said!!! Social Media:mad: At this guys age and experience (supposed) his attention to it shows a really weak maturity level. One you can see this in his performance on the court. Looks to me to have a "give up" look about him when the chips are down.
 
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I don't disagree, but when two of our three teams that have reached the Sweet Sixteen over the past decade feel that a significant part of our fanbase is against them, there's a problem.

Yes they (the players) are paying attention to the wrong thing!!!
 
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Well said!!! Social Media:mad: At this guys age and experience (supposed) his attention to it shows a really weak maturity level. One you can see this in his performance on the court. Looks to me to have a "give up" look about him when the chips are down.
100%. TN has enough mentally weak players on the team that have a ton of experience that it became the team’s overall identity. You could see them mentally crumble in the FAU game during that 18-2 run. San Diego State displayed the opposite against Alabama. When Alabama made a run and took the lead, SDSU’s mental toughness was the difference. TN mentally folded in the Louisiana game as well, the only difference was that they had built up an 18-pt cushion. If that game had been two minutes longer they would have lost it too.
 
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Oh you mean the way Michael Jordan carried grudges for years? MJ carries his feelings around looking for ways to be slighted to motivate himself. Give me a break

Find one quote from Michael Jordan in his entire career where he whined about fans or anyone being mean to him. His attitude was directly the opposite of JJJ. He was a super alpha on the court. We had no alphas out there this season.
 
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Oh you mean the way Michael Jordan carried grudges for years? MJ carries his feelings around looking for ways to be slighted to motivate himself. Give me a break
Give you a break? You said it yourself, MJ used perceived “slights to motivate himself” and play like a monster. Not wilting on the big stage. That’s literally the opposite of what happened here. If JJJ is “motivated”, why is he saying “they wanted it more”?
 
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Find one quote from Michael Jordan in his entire career where he whined about fans or anyone being mean to him. His attitude was directly the opposite of JJJ. He was a super alpha on the court. We had no alphas out there this season.
I concede comparing any college kid to one of the greatest competitors of all time is silly on my part but If MJ’s Hall of Fame speech isn’t enough then remember he was one of the first big whiners to NBA officials about every slight. Plus his feelings are hurt now because Barkley said he’s not a good GM. Which he isn’t! He’s an Alpha no doubt but he’s definitely not above reproach.
 
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For most of the year, our players ( with exception of Plav and ZZ), played with little emotion, little energy, and lack of desire. They never seemed to play with a deep competitiveness, or commitment to win.
Lackadaisical attitude in most games (other than Duke and Texas). Is this a result of coaching style or just the players' natural emotions?

I’m calling BS. I watched quite a few games this season, and I never felt like effort was a problem.

The biggest problems I saw were lack of confidence to take open shots…and lack of ability to make them.

You don’t play elite defense by being “lackadaisical.” Defense takes effort.
 
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Well, if your feelings are still hurt from social media 4 months ago, no wonder you wilted on the big stage….
If you think Tennessee “wilted on the big stage” because of them being overly concerned about over-the-top social media posts, then you’ve missed out on the glaring fact that poor shooting is the one constant in the tournament that produces these losses. You might also be missing out on the fact that there is one 4 seed, two 5’s, and a 9. Lots of “wilting” by good teams.
 
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If you think Tennessee “wilted on the big stage” because of them being overly concerned about over-the-top social media posts, then you’ve missed out on the glaring fact that poor shooting is the one constant in the tournament that produces these losses. You might also be missing out on the fact that there is one 4 seed, two 5’s, and a 9. Lots of “wilting” by good teams.
I’m responding to what was said in the article (“FAU wanted it more” and referencing social media after the Colorado game. The author references “wilting” and RB mentions pulling players for “bad body language on the big stage”) and what I saw with my own eyes. I agree, poor shooting did us in. Had we hit the 8-10 bunnies in the first half, maybe we withstand the second half. We also let a much smaller team out rebound us and get many second chance shots. We also had defensive breakdowns that led to wide open threes. We also looked panicked and disjointed (wilted) during FAU’s 20-4 run and waiting too long to call a timeout.

I also am painfully aware of WHO made it to the Final Four (which makes our loss even more painful). I also agree we weren’t the only team that wilted (Seems like you agree as well). Just because many did doesn’t mean we didn’t.

I also didn’t say the old social media post CAUSED them to wilt. I said “if your feelings are still hurt from a social media post from 4 months ago” (which JJJ mentions in the article…which to me indicates some potential ”fragility” within the team) THEN it’s “no wonder you wilted on the big stage” which we seem to agree happened along with several other teams. Poor shooting, poor rebounding, lack of aggressiveness, breakdowns in 3-point defense and a little bit of panic all contributed to that IMO.
Here is the passage from the article I reference above:

And favored Tennessee wilted. Not due to a lack of effort. This was a lack of confidence.
Barnes said afterward that body language promoted coaches to take “certain players” off the court, since “they weren’t locked in as much as they needed to be.”
“You expect them to be,” Barnes said, “but it’s a big stage.”
 
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If you think Tennessee “wilted on the big stage” because of them being overly concerned about over-the-top social media posts, then you’ve missed out on the glaring fact that poor shooting is the one constant in the tournament that produces these losses. You might also be missing out on the fact that there is one 4 seed, two 5’s, and a 9. Lots of “wilting” by good teams.
And if social media was able to derail the focus on this team....well....purge the roster and get some new blood in here.
 
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Barnes said afterward that body language promoted coaches to take “certain players” off the court, since “they weren’t locked in as much as they needed to be.”
“You expect them to be,” Barnes said, “but it’s a big stage.”
Barnes did not throw players under the bus ... but you can watch the game and tell who had "body language" issues.
This 4 who made the final four have some characteristics in common ... we did not have those characteristics!!!
I am pleased that we made the 16 and disappointed we did not go farther ... but we did lose to a Final Four team ... no shame in that ...
 
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I concede comparing any college kid to one of the greatest competitors of all time is silly on my part but If MJ’s Hall of Fame speech isn’t enough then remember he was one of the first big whiners to NBA officials about every slight. Plus his feelings are hurt now because Barkley said he’s not a good GM. Which he isn’t! He’s an Alpha no doubt but he’s definitely not above reproach.

There's a difference between your feelings being hurt (JJJ) and taking any slight, real or perceived as a reason to go out and absolutely dominate and steal the will to play from the person across from you. (MJ)

There's a reason there's a ton of stories about NBA players who were afraid to say anything to him before or during games.

JJJ has seemed overly emotional and disappears on big stages for his career. Some people are just made different. Unfortunately we seem to have a whole team of them, but I could see Awaka being different.
 
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I’m calling BS. I watched quite a few games this season, and I never felt like effort was a problem.

The biggest problems I saw was lack of confidence to take open shots…and lack of ability to make them.

You don’t play elite defense by being “lackadaisical.” Defense takes effort.


You are probably correct. Our players just weren't very good offensively.

Defense in basketball does not win championships without at least a very good offense, which we haven't had since Grant's time here.
 
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There's a difference between your feelings being hurt (JJJ) and taking any slight, real or perceived as a reason to go out and absolutely dominate and steal the will to play from the person across from you. (MJ)

There's a reason there's a ton of stories about NBA players who were afraid to say anything to him before or during games.

JJJ has seemed overly emotional and disappears on big stages for his career. Some people are just made different. Unfortunately we seem to have a whole team of them, but I could see Awaka being different.
When has he ever been anything other than an incredible representative of UT ?!? I don’t think I’ve ever seen the young man be overtly emotional. He’s been about as stable as they come. Has he been an incredible defender & defensive rebounder 95%? YES… has he been up and down offensively? Yes… Has he played through obvious pain and injuries most of his career? Absolutely YES!
I’d take another young man just like him every year.
Thanks for coming to UT and good luck in the future JJJ! 🙏🏽
 
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I disagree. Which players on our team are so thin-skinned and fragile that they are unable to perform? Players get pulled from games all of the time and at all levels of athletics. Often when our guys get pulled, it is for some boneheaded play of not following the game plan. Other than Uros’ ubber-aggressiveness, I do not remember seeing players subbed out when making a hustle mistake. If a player is being lazy, then it signals he is either tired or decided not to follow the game plan. At that point, he needs to be pulled. Barnes often talks about being upset when players don’t take open shots. In those cases, he isn’t putting them on the bench because they missed, but because they wouldn’t take an open shot. I have never heard one of Barnes’ players, current or past, state they were scared of being benched and that caused them to not perform well.
I agree.
 
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I’m calling BS. I watched quite a few games this season, and I never felt like effort was a problem.

The biggest problems I saw were lack of confidence to take open shots…and lack of ability to make them.

You don’t play elite defense by being “lackadaisical.” Defense takes effort.
They p-layed good aggressive defense, but I have seen many times our players not trying to get offensive rebounds because they have already turned their bodies and head down court. Sometimes, one of our guards will stay around and get the offensive rebound and they wait for the other players to get back to the offensive court. However, despite our players getting back on defense from a missed shot, some teams are able to get fast break points on breakaways. In games were we did attack the boards for offensive rebounds, we get an easy layup. such as what happened when ON crashed the board and stuffed the rebound for an easy two. It seem that when we are aggressive at both ends of the court, we are more likely to win the big game.
 

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