Tennessee’s Bruce Pearl should have lied. And kept lying.

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From Clay Travis

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"Consider, Pearl hosted juniors at his home for a barbecue and got his pay docked over a million dollars, lost off-campus recruiting privileges for he and his staff for a year and has been suspended from coaching for the first eight games of the SEC season. For hosting players at a barbecue and admitting lying about it. (Hosting the players would be permissible if they were seniors, but not as juniors). The admission of a lie leads to greater punishment, ironically, than simply lying.

Meanwhile Cecil Newton tried to sell his son for $180,000 and his son claims he didn’t know. The NCAA can’t prove that Newton did knowThe result? A one-day ineligibility.

One day!

In the middle of the week, no less."
 
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Is Clay correct that hosting senoirs would have been OK?? wow if this is true, it makes what he did even less of an issue
 
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Coastypop said:
Is Clay correct that hosting senoirs would have been OK?? wow if this is true, it makes what he did even less of an issue
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That's what I've understood from the beginning. The issue wasn't that seniors were there, it was because juniors were there. Stupid rule. That's why I keep saying it's ridiculous to catch this much crap over a picture of a recruit during a barbque (albeit he then lied about it), when there's 180,000 reasons just south of here for another university to be catching a whole lot more crap.
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Thought he lied about the number of text messages and phone calls ?
 
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If you aint cheating you aint trying. If your trying you need to be lying. If you lie your subject to fining. If you start losing we start whining. Next thing you know, were all crying.
 
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Coastypop said:
From Clay Travis

Clay Travis :: Claynation


"Consider, Pearl hosted juniors at his home for a barbecue and got his pay docked over a million dollars, lost off-campus recruiting privileges for he and his staff for a year and has been suspended from coaching for the first eight games of the SEC season. For hosting players at a barbecue and admitting lying about it. (Hosting the players would be permissible if they were seniors, but not as juniors). The admission of a lie leads to greater punishment, ironically, than simply lying.

Meanwhile Cecil Newton tried to sell his son for $180,000 and his son claims he didn’t know. The NCAA can’t prove that Newton did knowThe result? A one-day ineligibility.

One day!

In the middle of the week, no less."
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Without the pics it might have worked.
 
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Someone had to take the punishment for Auburn....looks like we are carrying some of the load....wonder what other schools will pick up the rest of it so Auburn can play in the BCS Championship game and Scam Newton can win the trophy???
 
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Coastypop said:
From Clay Travis

Clay Travis :: Claynation


"Consider, Pearl hosted juniors at his home for a barbecue and got his pay docked over a million dollars, lost off-campus recruiting privileges for he and his staff for a year and has been suspended from coaching for the first eight games of the SEC season. For hosting players at a barbecue and admitting lying about it. (Hosting the players would be permissible if they were seniors, but not as juniors). The admission of a lie leads to greater punishment, ironically, than simply lying.

Meanwhile Cecil Newton tried to sell his son for $180,000 and his son claims he didn’t know. The NCAA can’t prove that Newton did knowThe result? A one-day ineligibility.

One day!

In the middle of the week, no less."
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Well when Pearl was asked about bbq party, the investigator already possessed a photo that proved his violations. When Pearl found out the investigator had the photo, he then admitted. Cam was lucky they weren't dumb enough to get out the camera and start collecting evidence.
 
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MikeDVol said:
Well when Pearl was asked about bbq party, the investigator already possessed a photo that proved his violations. When Pearl found out the investigator had the photo, he then admitted. Cam was lucky they weren't dumb enough to get out the camera and start collecting evidence.
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Yea.... I always thought it was part of the proof that Pearl was not use to cheating... a real cheater like Calipari or (apparently SCAM) would have never had a photo taken in the first place. A real cheater KNOWS how to cover his tracts
 
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Coastypop said:
Yea.... I always thought it was part of the proof that Pearl was not use to cheating... a real cheater like Calipari or (apparently SCAM) would have never had a photo taken in the first place. A real cheater KNOWS how to cover his tracts
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While I don't know what seperates a real cheater from a fake cheater I would say there is a lesson here for anybody skirting the rules. Maybe Cal will slip up one day, but if he is cheating he is certainly going about in a wise undocumented fashion.
 
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Lexvol said:
While I don't know what seperates a real cheater from a fake cheater I would say there is a lesson here for anybody skirting the rules. Maybe Cal will slip up one day, but if he is cheating he is certainly going about in a wise undocumented fashion.
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How many championships would he have to loose to the AA for you to admit he cheated, or do you believe that having a junior rather than a senior over for a BBQ is worse than that?
 
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MikeDVol said:
Well when Pearl was asked about bbq party, the investigator already possessed a photo that proved his violations. When Pearl found out the investigator had the photo, he then admitted. Cam was lucky they weren't dumb enough to get out the camera and start collecting evidence.
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Since when did anybody say Pearl or one of his coaches took the picture then handed it over to the "AA"? My guess is that Craft took the picture,turned it into Matta,then Matta to the "AA". Who else would have known unless it was Selby and self. Surely one of Pearl's current players wouldn't do it? Purely speculation on my part. Guess we'll never find out.:ermm:
 
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Lexvol said:
While I don't know what seperates a real cheater from a fake cheater I would say there is a lesson here for anybody skirting the rules. Maybe Cal will slip up one day, but if he is cheating he is certainly going about in a wise undocumented fashion.
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You are correct the lesson is, that if you are wanting to play at Auburn or Mississipi State it is ok to seek $180,000. for your service, but you are are wanting to play at Tennessee and they offer you food, Don't Eat it, it's against the rules> :hi:
 
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If Pearl thought he would be able to get away with the lie going forward then, yes, he should have -- and I'm sure he would have -- continued to lie.

Obviously that wasn't the case.
 
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Lexvol said:
While I don't know what seperates a real cheater from a fake cheater I would say there is a lesson here for anybody skirting the rules. Maybe Cal will slip up one day, but if he is cheating he is certainly going about in a wise undocumented fashion.
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pearl was/is either foolish or reckless .. as cagey as he is on the floor, does anybody really think he didn't know the rules?
 
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Lexvol said:
While I don't know what seperates a real cheater from a fake cheater I would say there is a lesson here for anybody skirting the rules. Maybe Cal will slip up one day, but if he is cheating he is certainly going about in a wise undocumented fashion.
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So does the mafia.
 
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Lexvol said:
While I don't know what seperates a real cheater from a fake cheater I would say there is a lesson here for anybody skirting the rules. Maybe Cal will slip up one day, but if he is cheating he is certainly going about in a wise undocumented fashion.
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That lesson is don't get caught.
 
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#92 said:
Since when did anybody say Pearl or one of his coaches took the picture then handed it over to the "AA"? My guess is that Craft took the picture,turned it into Matta,then Matta to the "AA". Who else would have known unless it was Selby and self. Surely one of Pearl's current players wouldn't do it? Purely speculation on my part. Guess we'll never find out.:ermm:
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No. I said the investigator already had the photo before he met w Pearl. It's obvious that the recruit had the picture but if you're going to cheat, you might want to consider preaching a bit of discretion.
 
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Coastypop said:
From Clay Travis

Clay Travis :: Claynation


"Consider, Pearl hosted juniors at his home for a barbecue and got his pay docked over a million dollars, lost off-campus recruiting privileges for he and his staff for a year and has been suspended from coaching for the first eight games of the SEC season. For hosting players at a barbecue and admitting lying about it. (Hosting the players would be permissible if they were seniors, but not as juniors). The admission of a lie leads to greater punishment, ironically, than simply lying.

Meanwhile Cecil Newton tried to sell his son for $180,000 and his son claims he didn’t know. The NCAA can’t prove that Newton did knowThe result? A one-day ineligibility.

One day!

In the middle of the week, no less."
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He admitted he lied, because everyone knew he had lied. The game was up. It made little difference, the punishment was for lying period.
 
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