Tennessee > Bama

[bpalmer28]

The best thing on Bama’s resume is the quality of their losses. Same record as us. We won head to head and crushed the team that beat them. I don’t care that we wet the bed against an opponent we clearly overlooked. We are better than them.

The committee was DYING to overlook Oregon’s 46 point lost and they’ll gleefully overlook Ohio State’s blowout loss. They SHOULD extend the same kind of grace to us.

 

[volfanhill]

If chaos happens and both TCU orUSC take an L next week, the right thing to do is give that 4th spot to Tennessee. Same record. Neither are conference champs. Tennessee has a better quality wins. Who is Alabamas best win? 8-4 Ole Miss? Lmao. Oh and Tennessee beat Bama head or freaking head. Tennessee better be number 5 come Tuesday. Bama Bias better not screw us if the opportunity occurs. Get your pitch forks ready just in case Nation.

Why would one loss TCU be passed over for us?

 

[volfanhill]

#3 losing a game to a 3 loss team will 10000% drop them out of the top 4…. You literally can’t even come up with an scenario where they would stay at #3 or just drop 1 spot to #4 with a loss… especially when 2-3 teams behind them are idle… are you saying that even if they lose, they would stay ahead of the idle teams? I pray you aren’t gonna say yes. Because if you do, you might be on some substance

We lost to a 4 loss Carolina team!

 

[BeardedVol]

If chaos happens and both TCU orUSC take an L next week, the right thing to do is give that 4th spot to Tennessee. Same record. Neither are conference champs. Tennessee has a better quality wins. Who is Alabamas best win? 8-4 Ole Miss? Lmao. Oh and Tennessee beat Bama head or freaking head. Tennessee better be number 5 come Tuesday. Bama Bias better not screw us if the opportunity occurs. Get your pitch forks ready just in case Nation.

With Hooker injured, we aren't getting the 4th spot, regardless of any combination of losses by the top 4 teams next weekend.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Very interesting topic.

OSU got destroyed at home
Bama while 10-2 has no real quality wins
Tennessee has a bad loss on road and lost Heisman contender QB

We are 2 games away from pure chaos.

tOSU lost at home by 21 to the #3 team (at the time, they're likely #2 now)
I believe Bama has a decent strength of schedule, but I'm open to being shown otherwise.
TN lost by 25 at USCe which was unranked at the time and lost Hooker.

I don't see much chaos.

tOSU has one loss to a top 5 team.

Bama and TN have 2 losses.
TN lost to #1 and to a nobody.
Bama lost to #9 (TN) and #6 (LSU) at the time.

Both tOSU and Bama have better losses than TN.

We have a beatdown, a 25 point loss, on our resumé to an unranked team and a 3 point win over #8 Bama.

You can't spin that as TN deserving to be ahead of Bama. If you can, how?

 

[CMcEver]

Pitt possibly ranked after this week, same with USCjr after their win @clemson. It's possible they rerank us vs Bama, we still have the better resume imo. Would be sweet to slide into the Sugar Bowl.

 

[JMSqb11]

P-ST will be ranked 8th beating them by 13 on the road is definitely a marquee win.

who in the world would pass TCU now? They are 12-0. They have the best SOR in all of college football and a better SOS than Georgia, Mich, Ohio ST, USC and have taken Care of business…….they are in.

I don’t think folks understand how far ahead those top 3 are going to be right now……..WAY far ahead.

It doesn’t matter who jumps ahead of TCU. TCU losing to a 3 loss K State means TCU falls back to teams behind them. Not sure anyone with a straight face can say the #3 team losing to a 3 loss K State team deserves to stay #3 or drop just 1 spot to #4.

TCU has been impressive but they just ended the regular season 12-0 vs a schedule with no team with fewer than 3 losses… if they lose, they are out. Chaos man. Bring chaos.

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[JoAllan]

The best thing on Bama’s resume is the quality of their losses. Same record as us. We won head to head and crushed the team that beat them. I don’t care that we wet the bed against an opponent we clearly overlooked. We are better than them.

The committee was DYING to overlook Oregon’s 46 point lost and they’ll gleefully overlook Ohio State’s blowout loss. They SHOULD extend the same kind of grace to us.

do you think OSU should drop 6 spots or more from their loss?

I say that because Tennessee didn’t and they got hammered by SC.

I hate OSU and I love Tennessee…….but it is what it is.

OSU should drop 4 spots. That’s what Tennessee dropped when they lost to Georgia. Tennessee played on the road but was never in that game. OSU lost bad but at least it was a game through 3 quarters 24-20 at the end of 3.

But even if you drop them 5 spots they still ahead of Tennessee.

 

[volinbham]

You can't spin that as TN deserving to be ahead of Bama. If you can, how?

We beat Bama head to head. We beat the other team that beat Bama badly.

Pretty simple if you ask me. Head to head ought to be enough.

More fodder - USCe will be a top 25 team this week. Bama and UT both hit 10-2 by playing 5-6 teams. Bama played at home while we played on the road. Our margin of victory was considerably higher.

The only possible reason to rank Bama ahead of us is name value from the recent past.

 

[JMSqb11]

tOSU lost at home by 21 to the #3 team (at the time, they're likely #2 now)
I believe Bama has a decent strength of schedule, but I'm open to being shown otherwise.
TN lost by 25 at USCe which was unranked at the time and lost Hooker.

I don't see much chaos.

tOSU has one loss to a top 5 team.

Bama and TN have 2 losses.
TN lost to #1 and to a nobody.
Bama lost to #9 (TN) and #6 (LSU) at the time.

Both tOSU and Bama have better losses than TN.

We have a beatdown, a 25 point loss, on our resumé to an unranked team and a 3 point win over Bama.

You can't spin that as TN deserving to be ahead of Bama. If you can, how?

Ohio state had their worst home loss in decades to the one great team on their schedule by 22 points. That’s not that far off from a 25 point loss on the road.

In simple form, Tennessee should be ahead of Bama on most data points. The ultimate reason I think we WON’T be is Hendon’s season ending injury. We are not the same team and the committee has to take his injury into account. While OSU and Bama have better losses, their wins don’t come close to ours. I think it will be a tighter ranking than many think because the committee has clearly stated the quality of wins matter first and foremost. It’s the very reason a 2 loss LSU was ranked ahead of 1 loss USC and Oregon for so long and why 2 loss Bama was ahead of 1 loss Clemson for a bit.

 

[CMcEver]

tOSU lost at home by 21 to the #3 team (at the time, they're likely #2 now)
I believe Bama has a decent strength of schedule, but I'm open to being shown otherwise.
TN lost by 25 at USCe which was unranked at the time and lost Hooker.

I don't see much chaos.

tOSU has one loss to a top 5 team.

Bama and TN have 2 losses.
TN lost to #1 and to a nobody.
Bama lost to #9 (TN) and #6 (LSU) at the time.

Both tOSU and Bama have better losses than TN.

We have a beatdown, a 25 point loss, on our resumé to an unranked team and a 3 point win over Bama.

You can't spin that as TN deserving to be ahead of Bama. If you can, how?

Come rankings this week, Bama will probably only have 1 ranked win, by 1 point over Texas. I don't think playoffs are in the books, but bowl placement is.

 

[JMSqb11]

We lost to a 4 loss Carolina team!

Why is Tennessee losing to South Carolina relevant to explaining how a #3 ranked TCU losing to a 3 loss team would keep them in the top 4 rankings?

 

[JoAllan]

It doesn’t matter who jumps ahead of TCU. TCU losing to a 3 loss K State means TCU falls back to teams behind them. Not sure anyone with a straight face can say the #3 team losing to a 3 loss K State team deserves to stay #3 or drop just 1 spot to #4.

TCU has been impressive but they just ended the regular season 12-0 vs a schedule with no team with fewer than 3 losses… if they lose, they are out. Chaos man. Bring chaos.

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Folks can feel free to believe whatever they want. However I’m just stating there will be no chaos.

In a different situation sure…….however a 2 loss Bama is not going to jump TCU that went on to play an extra game in the championship (if TCU were to lose). An OSU team that just got thumped at home will not overtake TCU while their sitting at home because they didn’t make their championship game.

If somehow TCU were to lose 55-10 sure I can see something happening. However if they just lose even by 10 they in.

It’s because of the teams behind them.

Their SOS and SOR is better than Georgia and Michigan…….they behind both because they are TCU.

 

[Carl Pickens]

It’s not happening guys…. 63 points and 130th in pass defense ….. Hooker out… it’s not happening

 

[JMSqb11]

Folks can feel free to believe whatever they want. However I’m just stating there will be no chaos.

In a different situation sure…….however a 2 loss Bama is not going to jump TCU that went on to play an extra game in the championship (if TCU were to lose). An OSU team that just got thumped at home will not overtake TCU while their sitting at home because they didn’t make their championship game.

If somehow TCU were to lose 55-10 sure I can see something happening. However if they just lose even by 10 they in.

It’s because of the teams behind them.

Their SOS and SOR is better than Georgia and Michigan…….they behind both because they are TCU.

They are also behind Michigan and Georgia because they have zero big wins. Georgia has Tennessee and Oregon while Michigan has Ohio State and Penn State.

Who does TCU have? 3 loss K State and 4 loss Texas are their best wins. Those are not good.

I think if TCU loses to K State, they drop to 6-8 range in rankings. USC wins PAC12, they claim #3 seed and then ultimately Bama and OSU are up for the 4 spot. Bama doesn’t have any major good wins but they also have no bad losses. OSU has a decent win but they also have a horrible home loss.

I just do not see a resumè where TCU can afford to lose to a 9-11 ranked team as the #3 seed and not drop at all… but this is what makes the process is exciting. TCU and USC losing next week invites all the chaos.

 

[volinbham]

I think if TCU loses to K State, they drop to 6-8 range in rankings. USC wins PAC12, they claim #3 seed and then ultimately Bama and OSU are up for the 4 spot. Bama doesn’t have any major good wins but they also have no bad losses. OSU has a decent win but they also have a horrible home loss.

I just do not see a resumè where TCU can afford to lose to a 9-11 ranked team as the #3 seed and not drop at all… but this is what makes the process is exciting. TCU and USC losing next week invites all the chaos.

to bolded - I don't see how a loss to the #3 team (and your only loss) is worse than losing to a 3-loss LSU team in addition to a 2-loss UT team

if the name wasn't Alabama no one would argue they deserve to be ranked above a one loss OSU team or a 2 loss team UT that beat them.

 

[JoAllan]

I think if TCU loses to K State, they drop to 6-8 range in rankings. USC wins PAC12, they claim #3 seed and then ultimately Bama and OSU are up for the 4 spot. Bama doesn’t have any major good wins but they also have no bad losses. OSU has a decent win but they also have a horrible home loss.

I just do not see a resumè where TCU can afford to lose to a 9-11 ranked team as the #3 seed and not drop at all… but this is what makes the process is exciting. TCU and USC losing next week invites all the chaos.

The wins, losses, moves and drops are different on championship Saturday they always have been.

They all playing an extra game.
They all playing a extra quality opponent.

While everyone else does nothing.

#1 SOR and better SOS than the rest of them is their resume…….that’s pretty good.

If they lose they would definitely move down a spot….unless USC lost too.

I don’t think it matters anyway. TCU looks to most likely handle business.

I hate USC; however in no way do I want to see a 2 loss Bama team in the playoff…….especially one that Tennessee beat.

Go usc I guess

 

[JMSqb11]

to bolded - I don't see how a loss to the #3 team (and your only loss) is worse than losing to a 3-loss LSU team in addition to a 2-loss UT team

if the name wasn't Alabama no one would argue they deserve to be ranked above a one loss OSU team or a 2 loss team UT that beat them.

Ohio State lost to the 3rd ranked team, yes. However, they suffered their worst home loss in like 3-4 decades when they lost 22-0. That is a bad loss to a quality opponent. Definitely a worse loss than Bama losing to us on a last minute field goal and LSU on a 2 pointer

I think people are sleeping how bad that loss was today by Ohio State

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

do you think OSU should drop 6 spots or more from their loss?

I say that because Tennessee didn’t and they got hammered by SC.

I hate OSU and I love Tennessee…….but it is what it is.

OSU should drop 4 spots. That’s what Tennessee dropped when they lost to Georgia. Tennessee played on the road but was never in that game. OSU lost bad but at least it was a game through 3 quarters 24-20 at the end of 3.

But even if you drop them 5 spots they still ahead of Tennessee.

Bama ONLY lost to 2 top 10 teams, TN and LSU.

TN lost to a USCe team that MIGHT be #21 or 22, maybe. They're a 4 loss team. It's a terrible loss.

The South Carolina loss by 25 points cannot be overcome by a 3 point, last second win over Alabama.

 

[SmokeVol]

Bama ONLY lost to 2 top 10 teams, TN and LSU.

TN lost to a USCe team that MIGHT be #21 or 22, maybe. They're a 4 loss team. It's a terrible loss.

The South Carolina loss by 25 points cannot be overcome by a 3 point, last second win over Alabama.

This is all you need to see

 

[SATX VOL]

Is SC > TN?

No, SC played a perfect game. When we play a perfect game, we beat them every time against their perfect game. Any other time we win more often than not hands down.

 

[volinbham]

Ohio State lost to the 3rd ranked team, yes. However, they suffered their worst home loss in like 3-4 decades when they lost 22-0. That is a bad loss to a quality opponent. Definitely a worse loss than Bama losing to us on a last minute field goal and LSU on a 2 pointer

I think people are sleeping how bad that loss was today by Ohio State

2 losses is worse than 1 in any scenario; particularly given Alabama's lack of quality wins. LSU's loss today makes Bama's case worse.

 

[volinbham]

Bama ONLY lost to 2 top 10 teams, TN and LSU.

TN lost to a USCe team that MIGHT be #21 or 22, maybe. They're a 4 loss team. It's a terrible loss.

The South Carolina loss by 25 points cannot be overcome by a 3 point, last second win over Alabama.

LSU will not be a Top 10 team. USCe will be a top 25 team maybe top 20.

We beat Bama head to head and we beat the crap out of LSU.

Above all head to head makes the case.

 

[JMSqb11]

2 losses is worse than 1 in any scenario; particularly given Alabama's lack of quality wins. LSU's loss today makes Bama's case worse.

Not according to the committee. They kept a 2 loss LSU ahead of 1 loss USC/Oregon for weeks. 2 loss Bama ahead of 1 loss Clemson for weeks….

Why was that? Because quality of wins matter more than number of losses.

The committee has been crystal clear that quality of wins matter more than Number of losses

 

[JoAllan]

Bama ONLY lost to 2 top 10 teams, TN and LSU.

TN lost to a USCe team that MIGHT be #21 or 22, maybe. They're a 4 loss team. It's a terrible loss.

The South Carolina loss by 25 points cannot be overcome by a 3 point, last second win over Alabama.

Huh?

My post was solely focused on OSU….not Tennessee.

No where I’m I claiming Tennessee anything. I love Tennessee; however they are out because of USC, OSU and Bama

All ahead of Tennessee

My post simply stated OSU should not drop more than 5 spots and probably only 4 (however they will gain a spot because of LSU). Then gave reasoning as to why.