Tennessee considers withholding monoclonal antibody treatment from vaccinated citizens

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SpaceCoastVol said:
No more so than saying there is no reason to be concerned about long term effects, or effects to your heart, or blood clots....
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Obviously it's impossible to know for certain if there are long term affects at this stage. But generally, the types of drugs that have long term health affects are from drugs that users take continuously, not with a couple of shots given at once. The ingredients in a vaccine typically disappear within the body very quickly, just like most everything else that enters your body. What remains is simply genetic memory of how to fight the virus/disease. And what we do know about the history of vaccines in general, is that any negative affects tend to present themselves fairly quickly.
 
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Carp said:
Yet you can still get sick with symptoms from a flu strain that you got vaccinated against.

Direct for the CDC regarding the flu vaccine: Key Facts About Seasonal Flu Vaccine

Unfortunately, some people can become infected with a flu virus a flu vaccine is designed to protect against, despite getting vaccinated. Protection provided by flu vaccination can vary widely, based in part on health and age factors of the person getting vaccinated. In general, a flu vaccine works best among healthy younger adults and older children. Some older people and people with certain chronic illnesses may develop less immunity after vaccination. Flu vaccination is not a perfect tool, but it is the best way to protect against flu infection.
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Ok, sorry I didnt specify that those with compromised immune systems throw it for a loop.
 
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LouderVol said:
Ok, sorry I didnt specify that those with compromised immune systems throw it for a loop.
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It isn't only people with compromised immune systems that get breakthrough infections. Though they are certainly more likely. But that is true of basically any virus/disease. Old people, immune-compromised, and unhealthy people are way more at risk than young, healthy, basically no matter what the disease is.

No vaccine is 100% effective. And the flu shot is only like 50% or so effective
 
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VolStrom said:
Interesting take, but if you could reduce your likelihood of getting the flu from 70% to 30%, which would you choose?
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It's always seemed like a reduced chance of something happening is better than doing nothing. We do all kinds of protective measures like buy insurance even if we don't expect to be a victim of what it covers. Maybe my logic is just bent coming from a nuclear background where we believe in safety through layers. Nothing wrong with taking multiple steps to protect yourself; we do it all the time. We didn't discard brakes in cars when we added seatbelts or discard seatbelts when we added airbags ...
 
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Carp said:
Not true. You can still get sick from that strain even if you have gotten the flu shot. The flu shot and COVID shot work very similarly. You can even have it, be asymptomatic, and still transmit it to someone while having the flu vaccine.
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You have no idea what you are talking about. The shots are in no way similar. And yes, the flu vaccine IS designed to prevent you from catching and transmitting influenza. It protects against 3 or 4 strains per year, depending on the make. Some people may not make antibodies, for various reasons, but that does not change the purpose of the vaccine.

Also, guess how we ended the H1N1 pandemic....
 
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VolStrom said:
Interesting take, but if you could reduce your likelihood of getting the flu from 70% to 30%, which would you choose?
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I still take my chances with the flu.

Now tetanus, small pox, polio or something on that level, I'm all for vaccines. But something as mild as the flu or covid I think I can play the odds.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I still take my chances with the flu.

Now tetanus, small pox, polio or something on that level, I'm all for vaccines. But something as mild as the flu or covid I think I can play the odds.
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My rule of thumb is if I can manage the symptoms with OTCs it's not worth worrying over. But I dont go around telling people how to live their life.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
You have no idea what you are talking about. The shots are in no way similar. And yes, the flu vaccine IS designed to prevent you from catching and transmitting influenza. It protects against 3 or 4 strains per year, depending on the make. Some people may not make antibodies, for various reasons, but that does not change the purpose of the vaccine.

Also, guess how we ended the H1N1 pandemic....
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Lockdowns and mandate five shots in a calendar year?
 
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Tennessee mandating how a patient is to be treated. Where is the conservative outrage?
 
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