Tennessee leads list of programs that can be rebuilt quickly

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However, none of that potential for rebuilding will ever take place until Dave Hart gets his head out of the sand... and replaces Dooley with a capable coach.
 
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I really don't agree with this. I mean we have so much talent and I have a hard time believing it would take a while before we can have a winning season again. People just need to stop hating on us. The whole Dooley fiasco is definitely not bringing good pub towards us and you know that's bad for the players and recruits. Just need to fire Dooley, go get an awesome coach then turn this around.
 
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99gator said:
I still don't see where the foundation is better.

I know where it was before which was terrible.

But, I don't see what there is to be excited about if the expected departures depart.

Year 1 is a death trap
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Well at least your honest! If u can't see that the foundation is DEFINITELY better it might be the eyes ur looking thru would be my guess.
 
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Next year with no Bray, Hunter and Patterson it's going to be about like three years ago. Dooley has just held the line.
 
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tennrich1 said:
Well at least your honest! If u can't see that the foundation is DEFINITELY better it might be the eyes ur looking thru would be my guess.
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My eyes see a roster that's been dead last in the sec east for consecutive years that will have its best players leave early.

What do you see?
 
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ETNVol said:
Then you're just being a gator fan, or are just ignorant of the team.

The Freshman - Juniors on the roster right now are vastly superior to what was left when Dooley took over the job.
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I don't think we have more talent if TB, CP and JH leave really. I would take Bray over Peterman/Worley. Bryce Brown over Neal/Lane. D Moore , G Jones , JH, DR over Croom, Howard and Bowles. JJ over any secondary player. We are better on the lines though. I just don't think Dooley has brought in that much talent himself. I still think with the right coach we turn it around in a year or two.
 
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Gruden could talk Bray and Hunter into staying, and bring in a top notch Defensive staff, and grab a few Juco's for the D backfield in the final month of recruiting. Boom. TN is a top 25 program next year.
 
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jmacvols1 said:
Some observations:

--going by this forum, there is no time for a new coach to rebuild at UT, win championships immediately or be fired especially considering a new coach will inherit a far better program than Dooley did

--it is hard for some to give Dooley credit for anything...Dooley did not put the program in a hole, it was already there and Dooley has put forth tremendous effort to correct things. It's hard to win, much less win in the SEC, with a team loaded with freshmen and sophomores. It's not hard for me to see that Fulmer and Kiffin had a lot to do with the loses the past three years.


--Dooley has put together a great offense, the defense needs more work obviously. Having to still play freshmen in the defensive backfield (and elsewhere) is a clear indication there has not been enough time to build quality depth. I think Sunseri's new schemes were too complicated especially for the defensive backs. I hope next year they just run a plain 4-3 hard nose straight ahead defense.


--there is no 'home run' hire out there as far as I can see, changing coaches now will only set the program back further.

--the news media and some of the fan base are adding to the problems and are not a solution and I am afraid they will have an adverse affect to this years recruiting.

--I do not agree with all of Dooley's decisions but I can accept them and see them as part of the growing pains a HC goes through trying to rebuild a program.
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growing pains is for new coaches learning how to coach at la Tech's of the world. This is UT where you either know what your doing or go home

I do not approve your message at all :ermm:
 
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Neyland Law Vol said:
Gruden could talk Bray and Hunter into staying, and bring in a top notch Defensive staff, and grab a few Juco's for the D backfield in the final month of recruiting. Boom. TN is a top 25 program next year.
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The truth, of course, if we get Gruden. Even if we don't, Worley is capapable and Peterman was pushing him. We still need a top flight RB and we need help at TE. Going the JUCO route could help there. Patterson and Hunter aren't really replaceable, not this year or next, but we do have Vincent and Howard who've been gaining experience this year in spot play and everyone forgets Jacob Carter, which sounds silly, but he produces when given opportunity.

The defense, well...There is some talent on the D-line. We need some help at LB and DB, but we do have a couple of guys...The thing is this, I compare this defense to the offense Kiffin inherited. Dave Clawson came in and changed the system and that offense was one of the worst in UT history, I think it was the worst. Kiffin comes in and it's slightly worse on the O-line than the year before and manages to win 7 games, more remarkable if you flash back to Johnathon Crompton under Clawson.

The Sunseri experiment is a failure of the same magnitude as the Clawfense. It's hard to really judge what is really there and what a good, hopefully great, football coach could do.
 
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GahLee said:
With a really good coach this team could have easily win 9 games this year and more next year.

UT's offense has the potential to be great and the defense could improve dramatically simply by play-calling and simple technique improvements.

UT isn't THAT far off, they just need better coaching to put them over the hump that Dooley always refers to
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Dooley IS the hump we can't get over! Just like Buzz Peterson, he always finds ways to snatch defeat from the mouth of victory--like running out the clock in regulation last Sat when we had time to WIN!
 
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strongtower said:
growing pains is for new coaches learning how to coach at la Tech's of the world. This is UT where you either know what your doing or go home

I do not approve your message at all :ermm:
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....and Fulmer and Majors and Gruden and Saban never have made bad decisions? And just because a decision is made that you or me personally do not like, that does not necessarily means it's a bad decision. If Dooley had ran another play at the end of regulation of the Missouri game and there was a turnover and Missouri kicks the winning FG, what would this forum said about that? What if the fake field goal did not work, what would this forum said about that decision? Dooley, on this forum, is in a no-win situation no matter what he does.
 
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Other than Dallas Thomas, who are we losing on the O-Line? I think we return a pretty darn good group there. Pick up a power back out of JUCO ball maybe, and it won't be as bad as folks think next year. Keep that defense off the field, and hopefully get some DB help through recruiting and having a soph or two step up. Bring in a coaching staff that understands and can execute "run the ball, play defense". We won't win the East, but couldn't be any worse than this year, even with a tougher schedule. Time for a reboot.
 
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99gator said:
Have you seen the defense?

Where is the evidence of talent other than those who may leave early?
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Did you watch any Tennessee games three years ago? We didn't even have enough bodies. We played a road game at LSU, and over half the guys that went on the trip and never played in a road game before.

Nobody is (or should be) arguing that this team is ready to win a championship next year, especially if there's a lot of attrition, but we're at least to the point now where we can clearly see that coaching is the problem. Three years ago we weren't.
 
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Tennessee is in between a rock and a hard place. All of the offensive talent will be checking out this year and we will not have one proven dependable offensive weapon. Possible the linemen can score touch downs. The defense stinks. I do not believe Tennessee has ever allowed so many yards in a season. Most of you are probable too young to remember when Fulmer took over for Majors but Tennessee was loaded with talented players and brought in some of the best recruiting classes Tennessee has ever had. Some guy named Schuler, Manning, Henderson etc. Until we get another coach with the kind of Charisma that these men possessed we are going to continue. Hart better make the best chose of his life or he and some of the higher administrative officials will be looking for new jobs. Meanwhile we continue to drift along like a ship without a rudder.
 
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