Tennessee minutes against Kennsaw State

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Guards:

McBee 30
Richardson 26
Golden 26
McRae 22
Moore 13
Edwards 6

Posts:

Stokes 34
Hall 28
Chievous 11
Yemi 1
 
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Can we make it through the season with stokes playing that much? Seems like a guy his size shouldn't be over 30 for the year?
 
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I know people felt like McBee would get lost on the bench this season but I've always been pretty high on what he brings to the table. Even when he's not hitting his shots he still has to be guarded. Having shooters means that teams can't double down on our best offensive options on the paint. I know it's just the first game but McBee is seeming like a much larger part in the scheme than even what I thought.
 
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If he can perform consistently, let him have the minutes. Either way, it seems McRae is hot on his tail.
 
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Stokes will probably have to play about that each night until Maymon returns.

Golden will be around 30, foul trouble cost him a few minutes the other night.

I think you'll see Mcbee/McRae around 25 each, Richardson around 20, and Edwards around 15 with probably 5 or so of those minutes coming at the 4.
 
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orbs son said:
Can we make it through the season with stokes playing that much? Seems like a guy his size shouldn't be over 30 for the year?
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I do not care how big you are at his age and with all tv timeouts and team timeouts he should be able to play 38 to 40 and be ok unless their conditioning is just a joke.
 
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volfan414life said:
I do not care how big you are at his age and with all tv timeouts and team timeouts he should be able to play 38 to 40 and be ok unless their conditioning is just a joke.
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The TV timeouts are such a blessing. Free breaks.
 
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zjcvols said:
Guards:

McBee 30
Richardson 26
Golden 26
McRae 22
Moore 13
Edwards 6

Posts:

Stokes 34
Hall 28
Chievous 11
Yemi 20 Seconds
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FYP! lol

Seriously though, I was happy with how many minutes Stokes played. He'll need to log some heavy, heavy minutes.
 
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Chris4Vols22 said:
If he can perform consistently, let him have the minutes. Either way, it seems McRae is hot on his tail.
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I agree. Healthy competition is good because you know guys are fighting in practice for their PT. I see McRae finding some time at the 3 too. Difficult to defend 2 shooters in the game at the same time and still try to double team the post. I don't want to jinx him, but if McRae keeps this up...
 
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zjcvols said:
Guards:

McBee 30
Richardson 26
Golden 26
McRae 22
Moore 13
Edwards 6

Posts:

Stokes 34
Hall 28
Chievous 11
Yemi 1
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Edwards' minutes are what really stand out to me. We saw games last year where Yemi didn't play much so while it was interesting that he only played 1 minute, it wasn't shocking. I really expected Edwards to clock at least 15 minutes, especially with Maymon out.
 
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Edwards makes a lot of sense at the 4. That's the position he played in JUCO. He's a good rebounder and he's bigger than Chievous. Honestly think he's more suited for a stretch 4 than the 3 spot.


bleedingTNorange said:
Stokes will probably have to play about that each night until Maymon returns.

Golden will be around 30, foul trouble cost him a few minutes the other night.

I think you'll see Mcbee/McRae around 25 each, Richardson around 20, and Edwards around 15 with probably 5 or so of those minutes coming at the 4.
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Not only does McBee help to spread the floor but the guy plays hard and his defense isn't too shabby. All in all I like what he contributes.
 
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zansdad said:
I looked around. I couldn't find any site with them. Statsheet usually has them but they don't have them up for UT for the 1st game.
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It's one of the best stats, and I'm shocked it took so long for it to show up on NBA/NCAA stat sheets. It's the first thing I look at when checking out a box score.
 
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OCIVol said:
It's one of the best stats, and I'm shocked it took so long for it to show up on NBA/NCAA stat sheets. It's the first thing I look at when checking out a box score.
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It is good but also has to be taken with a grain of salt, lots of variables come into play that look one way but don't truly tell the story.

One example I really remember was Maymon in Maui iirc...he played a minute or two against chaminade to start then sat the whole game...because of this he was like a -28 for The game which really affected his average.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
It is good but also has to be taken with a grain of salt, lots of variables come into play that look one way but don't truly tell the story.

One example I really remember was Maymon in Maui iirc...he played a minute or two against chaminade to start then sat the whole game...because of this he was like a -28 for The game which really affected his average.
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That would only affect his Roland Rating, not his plus/minus. The same can be said of basically every bench player on good teams though for Roland Ratings.
 
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zansdad said:
That would only affect his Roland Rating, not his plus/minus. The same can be said of basically every bench player on good teams though for Roland Ratings.
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Maybe that's what I was looking at, but is plus minus not what the team does while you're on the floor?

So if he's off the floor his +\- must have been low, where as most of the starters from that game there's was high, right?

Or am I completely wrong on how it works, entirely possible.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Maybe that's what I was looking at, but is plus minus not what the team does while you're on the floor?

So if he's off the floor his +\- must have been low, where as most of the starters from that game there's was high, right?

Or am I completely wrong on how it works, entirely possible.
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+/- only tracks the scoring differential while a player is in the game. When the player is on the bench, he will have a 0 +/-
 
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OCIVol said:
+/- only tracks the scoring differential while a player is in the game. When the player is on the bench, he will have a 0 +/-
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So being out most of the chaminade game did affect him then...

He have been -1 or -2 yet if he'd have played the whole game he likely would've been about +20???
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Maybe that's what I was looking at, but is plus minus not what the team does while you're on the floor?

So if he's off the floor his +\- must have been low, where as most of the starters from that game there's was high, right?
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Yes. his +/- was low because he didn't play much.

+/- only looks at what happens when a player is on the floor. The case in point is the Chaminade game. Maymon was a +1 (UT scored 1 more point than Chaminade during that ~2 minutes Maymon played).

His Roland Rating was a -24 for that game. The Roland Rating subtracts the difference between the point differential when you are off the floor (in this case +25) from the differential when you are on the floor (+1). Thus 1-25=-24.

You can see how any bench player on a really good college team would get raped by the Roland Rating. Wiltjer played on a Kentucky team that ran through just about everybody last year. And while he routinely had decent +/- performances, he had some abysmal Roland Ratings because the starting 5 scored so many points while he was on the bench.
 
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