Tennessee moves up to No. 5 in this week's AP Poll

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ZZ13 said:
Logic isn't a strength of the pollsters. For example, if UNC is #3 on the strength of one good win over a Zion-less Duke, then LSU should be right with them because of wins against #5 and #6. Since apparently quality of losses is not a factor for the voters.
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You think Carolina is #3 just because of 1 win? They've beaten 2 more ranked teams than Tennessee has even played all season
 
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Biskit52250 said:
You think Carolina is #3 just because of 1 win? They've beaten 2 more ranked teams than Tennessee has even played all season
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And have gotten blown out in 4 of their 5 losses AT HOME. You can try and twist this anyway you want, but UT has taken care of business for the most part even if some of the teams weren’t ranked as high.
 
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Freak said:
Should be higher, imo. But about what I expected.


  1. Gonzaga
  2. Virginia
  3. North Carolina
  4. Duke
  5. Tennessee
  6. Kentucky
  7. Michigan
  8. Texas Tech
  9. Michigan State
  10. LSU
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A lot of basketball to be played before March 17, anything can happen in March.
 
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Biskit52250 said:
1st off you're either confused or just reading it wrong cuz UNC didn't lose to Texas and Kentucky at home. I don't know where you're getting that but that's wrong. 2nd Tennessee has only beaten 2 ranked teams all year. They are 2-3 vs ranked teams. UNC has won 7 games against ranked teams. Its not just as simple as team A has more losses than team B if team A has obviously had a tougher schedule than team B.
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Too bad that in the most recent AP poll that 26 and 27 are Miss St and Auburn. It's almost like it's just meant to be that UT plays less top 25 teams. As another person pointed out where are you counting the quality of losses against the quality of wins? Both UNC and UT beat Gonzaga as their best win but as clearly as you pointed out all of UNC's quality wins you did kind of avoid the lack of quality in some of their losses.

But honestly it's just a poll and I'm not here to argue just wanted to also post my 2 cents and enjoy the end of this season.

Go Vols
 
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cncchris33 said:
The only thing keeping them afloat right now is the possibility that Zion is returning. I am starting to wonder if that isn't a ruse to keep their reputation and ranking buoyed until Selection Sunday.

For him personally, it really isn't a smart business decision if he isn't 100% healthy. As long as they keep assuring everyone he'll be back, each loss without him will be excused as much as humanly possible. I'm just not convinced it isn't a tactic to keep them from sliding, and that it's already been determined that he likely won't return.
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At this point I'm halfway convinced that there's no real plans for him to return. It's either worse than what they were originally saying or he's chosen to sit out the rest of the year.

And, in that case, they figure it's best for both parties to delay that becoming public knowledge as long as possible.
 
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#81
I don't see why people have issues with UNC being ranked ahead of the Vols. You can quote past losses weeks ago and it's pointless because it's a weekly poll. Winning @ Duke and a ranked FSU team made up a lot of ground last week and they didn't lose this week. I do think it's a little ridiculous that Duke gets a first place vote when they lose. The blue bloods just don't get punished as much for losing. MSU is a team that confuses me to death. I would have no issue them being Tennessee's 2 but they are scary because they seem to always show up in big games.
 
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Biskit52250 said:
You think Carolina is #3 just because of 1 win? They've beaten 2 more ranked teams than Tennessee has even played all season
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Yes I do. They were way up the ladder (I think at 8) the poll before they beat Duke. And I wasn't comparing Tennessee to them. I was comparing LSU.
 
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UNC fan, getting blown out by Louisville, whom we easily beat and handled by Kentucky, whom we just beat by 19, as well as to a NIT level Texas team, should have consequences. Fortunately it will in NCAA seeding. There's a reason your NET ranking has you closer to the edge of the 2/3 seed line. The entire season matters in seeding.
 
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checkerboards09 said:
And have gotten blown out in 4 of their 5 losses AT HOME. You can try and twist this anyway you want, but UT has taken care of business for the most part even if some of the teams weren’t ranked as high.
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Wow, talk about twisting anyway you want it. Since when is an 8 point loss a blowout and just because you say they lost 4 home games doesn't make it true. They lost 2 home games but go ahead and stretch the truth as far as you can to try and prove your point. You wouldn't have to stretch the truth like that if you knew for sure Tennessee deserved to be ahead of them. You would just state facts.
 
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cncchris33 said:
The only thing keeping them afloat right now is the possibility that Zion is returning. I am starting to wonder if that isn't a ruse to keep their reputation and ranking buoyed until Selection Sunday.

For him personally, it really isn't a smart business decision if he isn't 100% healthy. As long as they keep assuring everyone he'll be back, each loss without him will be excused as much as humanly possible. I'm just not convinced it isn't a tactic to keep them from sliding, and that it's already been determined that he likely won't return.
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To your point, as I’m watching the UVA/Syr game, a headline banner scrolls across, “Zion Williamson Not Ruled Out For Game”....

If this vital news was announced a day earlier, I’m sure Duke would have been ranked higher.
 
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#92
Polls are trash but I just updated my avi for the first and only time in 8 years of being apart of volnation. I did it because Scofield said đź–•đź–• Kentucky and I can get behind that. We need swagger and I like it. In the words of the admiral "I'm a winner" I'm behind it, and let's roll!!
 
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Biskit52250 said:
Wow, talk about twisting anyway you want it. Since when is an 8 point loss a blowout and just because you say they lost 4 home games doesn't make it true. They lost 2 home games but go ahead and stretch the truth as far as you can to try and prove your point. You wouldn't have to stretch the truth like that if you knew for sure Tennessee deserved to be ahead of them. You would just state facts.
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Well my fault on the number of home games. Still doesnt erase the fact that UT has lost all 3 of their games away and has done what they’re supposed to do 90% of the time.
 
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#95
I’m fine with it. It really doesn’t matter right now. If we handle our remaining business and then play great in the sec tournament we’ll get a no1 seed
 
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508mikey said:
hope the refs hose Gonzaga this week
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Good one.

Gonzaga doesn't have a game this week.

9 days off before their Monday night WCC Semi Final. Then another 9 (or 10) days off between the Tuesday Final and the Big Dance.
 
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GoZags said:
Good one.

Gonzaga doesn't have a game this week.

9 days off before their Monday night WCC Semi Final. Then another 9 (or 10) days off between the Tuesday Final and the Big Dance.
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even better they will be rusty - total waste of a #1 seed in the NCAA T
 
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508mikey said:
even better they will be rusty - total waste of a #1 seed in the NCAA T
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It's been like that every year during the Zags' current 20 year consecutive NCAA tourney streak .... including the past 4 years (where the Zags have won 12 games in the dance). And the last decade, where only Gonzaga and Kansas have won at least one game. Or just take the last 20 years (where Gonzaga is 17-3 in the opening round).

As Mark Few has stated, it's as if your Birthday is 2 days after Christmas. It's all you know ....

Other than that, good point.
 
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GoZags said:
It's been like that every year during the Zags' current 20 year consecutive NCAA tourney streak .... including the past 4 years (where the Zags have won 12 games in the dance). And the last decade, where only Gonzaga and Kansas have won at least one game. Or just take the last 20 years (where Gonzaga is 17-3 in the opening round).

As Mark Few has stated, it's as if your Birthday is 2 days after Christmas. It's all you know ....

Other than that, good point.
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since you are a Gonzaga fan - do you ever think Few would take on a big power 5 job if one opened up or is he content on staying put ?
 
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#100
No, he won't take another job ... for a variety of reasons. His dad was a Minister in the same Church for 55 years and he takes after his dad. He came to Gonzaga 30 years ago as a $1,500 a year Grad Assistant. When he arrived, he was pulled aside by the Campus Elders and told "You will never win this league and that's okay. Just don't finish last. Last place isn't tolerated around here". He and his fellow assistants Dan Monson and Billy Grier set out to change that paradigm.

This is his 20th year as HC. After his 2nd year, he said "no" to South Carolina, after his 3rd year he said "no" to Virginia. He's also said "no" to his Alma Mater (Oregon), to Indiana, UCLA, Arizona and a host of others. His only interview was a face to face with Washington (he said "no" before they hired Lorenzo Romar).

He also saw what happened to his friend Dan Monson when Monson left GU for Minnesota (at the start of this "cute little run"). He also saw what happened to Monson's dad Don Monson when he left Idaho for Oregon.

He likes it at Gonzaga and believes he can win there. He can also be on the river fishing 10 minutes after leaving his office (or his home). He can give his family the time they deserve. It's a good situation.
 
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