Tennessee, NCAA, Nico, and Donde

[S.C. OrangeMan]

We ALL do not think the portal and NIL are destroying anything. This has been the best football season we've had as fans in a long long time. Bama with 3 losses and one of them Vandy? That doesn't happen without the good ol' Wild Wild West being here.

Absolutely right.

 

[jps2194]

I met Donde when I went to the LSU game in Baton Rouge. Was standing by the tunnel as players were walking out for warmups and she can up to me and my family and struck up a conversation. Agree with others that she's the best we've ever had - I was so impressed with her, the conversation we had and the fact she walked up to a complete stranger and had a 5 minute conversation had an impact on me..

 

[Carp]

I think both aspects are true.

Donde Plowman and UT are badass for putting the NCAA in its place.

The lawsuits and actions of UT and the State of TN are integral in helping to change college football into something that's very uncomfortable for most fans.

It's unfortunate, but correct, that it came to this.

The NCAA had no choice but avoid starting NIL or compensating players because they can't legally control it without Antitrust issues which UT helped point out.

The NCAA had no choice but to avoid easing transfer restrictions for players because they can't legally control it without Antitrust issues which TN joined lawsuits to help point out.

The NCAA business model isn't legally workable but the solution sucks for fans. That UT and the State of TN helped dismantle the business model is simply a fact.

I can promise you that we don't have the success we did in the 90's (and likely before that) without at least some players getting paid illegally. It's naive to assume otherwise. Maybe we weren't as cavalier about it as other teams were during that time (Miami, USC, OSU, Bama, etc), but it almost certainly happened. So any sort of fond memories you have about the "purity" of the sport before NIL is a facade.

 

[EezyE]

The President of the NCAA is a REAL IDIOT...

Just ask Louisiana Senator John Kennedy...

The one with Josh Hawley is worth watching too. Calling Baker a real idiot is being kind.

 

[EezyE]

The one with Josh Hawley is worth watching too. Calling Baker a real idiot is being kind.

 

[Casual Mustard Yeeter]

As we've seen, the NCAA standing still was the only choice to keep the dam from breaking.

Had they started "revenue sharing," they get sued by previous athletes because they didn't get revenue sharing (as they now have been in House v NCAA.)

Had they opened a portal earlier, they'd have gotten sued (as they did) to throw it wide open and make transfers look like they do now.

Had they started NIL, it would've spun completely out of control, as it has because of lawsuits like TN filed.

WHAT move would you have had them make that wouldn't leave us EXACTLY where we are now?

They could have tried not retroactively enforcing rules that didn't exist when the offense occurred.

Could you imagine getting pulled over because the speed limit changed to 45 yesterday but last week a cop saw you doing 55 ( when it was 55)?

That's pretty much what the NCAA did. Of course Tennessee was forced to defend itself.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

They could have tried not retroactively enforcing rules that didn't exist when the offense occurred.

Could you imagine getting pulled over because the speed limit changed to 45 yesterday but last week a cop saw you doing 55 ( when it was 55)?

That's pretty much what the NCAA did. Of course Tennessee was forced to defend itself.

I'm not saying TN was wrong. I'm saying the NCAA couldn't keep an illegal business model working no matter what they did.

As we saw with the State of TN and UT, the NCAA couldn't defend ANY of the NIL rules, not just the new ones...... 99% of them. All the NIL rules of the NCAA were a lawsuit waiting to happen and TN got there first.

People blame the NCAA for all the court ordered changes, want the old college ways back, but as soon as the NCAA TRIES to hold the line, the schools and states sue the NCAA to stop them!

It makes no sense. The NCAA business model of "amateur student athletes" is broken, not legal, and not coming back...... ESPECIALLY not when schools and states continually sue, as the State of TN ALSO did, to have multiple transfers be normal.

The schools and states aren't blameless. They want the NCAA to be toothless and now that they have it, they blame the NCAA for being toothless.

It's BS.