Tennessee 's offense with Cedric Tilman this year

[BigOrangePaddy]

I hate to even go here, but this is an honest observation.

Our offense has looked very off so far when he is in the lineup. Coincidence? Maybe.

Think about how we looked on offense against Pitt and then even against Kentucky upon his return followed by this UGA performance. First thing i noticed in the Kentucky game upon his return is that the entire offense looked a bit tighter out there compared to against LSU and Bama.

Maybe some kind of struggle between him and the other WRs in the locker room is going on or something? Maybe he putting out a more strict vibe with the other guys? Either way, our team chemistry on offense just has been very noticeably different with him in the lineup for whatever reason.

 

[KoachKrab127]

Tillman being active has nothing to do with the o-line giving up 6 sacks and Hooker making inaccurate throws. We couldn’t run the ball against Pitt or UGA. That was the main problem with our offense those 2 games. If the receivers struggle to get open against Mizzou, SC, and Vandy, then maybe you have a point, but I don’t see it.

 

[madbamahater]

It is possible that it takes focus off of Hyatt being the go to guy as far as number of tagets. Hyatt is UT fastest receiver by far.

 

[VOLfrombama]

I think Hooker struggles to make it past 2 reads sometimes. It’s very challenging under pressure and requires a lot of focus to stand tall and work thru your progressions.

He has improved dramatically since last year, but still seems uneasy with pressure in his face. I think that’s why he holds the ball too long. Its almost like he hesitates to get to the 3rd or maybe 4th reads to feel pressure and consider running.

Obviously this all happens within 3-4 seconds tops, less against Jawja.

 

[Doberman]

I think Hooker struggles to make it past 2 reads sometimes. It’s very challenging under pressure and requires a lot of focus to stand tall and work thru your progressions.

He has improved dramatically since last year, but still seems uneasy with pressure in his face. I think that’s why he holds the ball too long. Its almost like he hesitates to get to the 3rd or maybe 4th reads to feel pressure and consider running.

Obviously this all happens within 3-4 seconds tops, less against Jawja.

I’d like him to find the read where he tosses a few out of bounds instead of taking the sack.

 

[savannahfan]

I think Hooker struggles to make it past 2 reads sometimes. It’s very challenging under pressure and requires a lot of focus to stand tall and work thru your progressions.

He has improved dramatically since last year, but still seems uneasy with pressure in his face. I think that’s why he holds the ball too long. Its almost like he hesitates to get to the 3rd or maybe 4th reads to feel pressure and consider running.

Obviously this all happens within 3-4 seconds tops, less against Jawja.

I agree with this. However, as well as we think our O line has played, he rarely has time to look for options past 1-2 reads. When you think about it, most of our offensive plays seem to be designed to not "fool around" just execute the play which requires quick action that does not allow defensives to adjust to what they see.

 

[TNinSC]

we scored 44 vs kentucky...uga AT uga is just a different defensive animal

 

[volfan2491]

Tillman being active has nothing to do with the o-line giving up 6 sacks and Hooker making inaccurate throws. We couldn’t run the ball against Pitt or UGA. That was the main problem with our offense those 2 games. If the receivers struggle to get open against Mizzou, SC, and Vandy, then maybe you have a point, but I don’t see it.

100% accurate. plus the 8 false start penalties

 

[Vol865]

Hooker just has to stop forcing the ball to him and go back to going through his reads and finding the open man

 

[Special Ed]

Tillman

 

[Zues1]

I remember Ainge talking about Coach Cut. If the plays not there throw the ball into the ground and move on to the next play. You hold it, you get hurt

 

[KeyVol14]

I think the game looks a whole lot different if we didn’t have as many pre snap penalties as we did. We had 3 to 4 trips into UGAs red zone and only one TD. False starts really killed our rhythm offensively and not to mention the 3 wide open TD passes that hooker missed on.

 

[Vol in Buckeye Land]

I’ve wondered if Hooker is forcing it to Tillman at times, but that’s probably a knee-jerk reaction. Ockham’s razor would seem to favor the explanation that we were rusty against Pitt and bothered by UGA’s defense.

 

[bpalmer28]

If Hooker connects on the deep balls like he has all season, our perception of the offensive performance against UGA is much different.

We left at least 3 TDs on the field.

 

[SoddyAllVol]

I don’t think it’s anything to do with Tillman. I think sometimes hooker just holds it too long waiting for a receiver to get open. Sometimes you have to throw it up and let your receiver make a play. We have the guys to do that. Also helps when you aren’t getting bullrushed

 

[rdk4121]

Tillman didn't cause Hooker to overthrow Hyatt and Bru on two deep balls. And while we did end up leaving some points on the board against Kentucky, Tillman only played barely half a game. The Pittsburgh game had a similar feel to the Georgia game mostly because we committed several penalties that ending up stalling drives. That was the common theme in both games.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

I hate to even go here, but this is an honest observation.

Our offense has looked very off so far when he is in the lineup. Coincidence? Maybe.

Think about how we looked on offense against Pitt and then even against Kentucky upon his return followed by this UGA performance. First thing i noticed in the Kentucky game upon his return is that the entire offense looked a bit tighter out there compared to against LSU and Bama.

Maybe some kind of struggle between him and the other WRs in the locker room is going on or something? Maybe he putting out a more strict vibe with the other guys? Either way, our team chemistry on offense just has been very noticeably different with him in the lineup for whatever reason.

The offense can never have too many playmakers. If Tillman plays the entire game against UK, then the score would have been about the same. Our offense had no answer for the athletes on UGA's defense regardless of whether Ced played or not.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

I don’t think it’s anything to do with Tillman. I think sometimes hooker just holds it too long waiting for a receiver to get open. Sometimes you have to throw it up and let your receiver make a play. We have the guys to do that. Also helps when you aren’t getting bullrushed

I mean he threw it up for Tillman, and Tillman let his man get inside position on him and get the interception.

 

[GVF]

I think Hooker struggles to make it past 2 reads sometimes. It’s very challenging under pressure and requires a lot of focus to stand tall and work thru your progressions.

He has improved dramatically since last year, but still seems uneasy with pressure in his face. I think that’s why he holds the ball too long. Its almost like he hesitates to get to the 3rd or maybe 4th reads to feel pressure and consider running.

Obviously this all happens within 3-4 seconds tops, less against Jawja.

Against most D's this year, he didn't have to go past 2 reads very often at all. Receivers were open off the line. He could have cured UGA's scheme real fast if he had stood tall and took that 3rd read. Several of them were open down the sideline and he didn't look their way. That would have opened the game up and reduced the blitzes. But, he would have had to stand tall, get the pass off, and take the hit. If we get to face GA again in the CFP, I think you'll see a vastly diffrent UT, and alot of Dawg fans eating their words. Kind of like beating Bama this year and not wanting to play them again. For all the UGA fan post game trash talk, I also saw a large concensus that said take the win and go. Give no ammo, and don't want to play UT again this year.

 

[VOLfrombama]

Against most D's this year, he didn't have to go past 2 reads very often at all. Receivers were open off the line. He could have cured UGA's scheme real fast if he had stood tall and took that 3rd read. Several of them were open down the sideline and he didn't look their way. That would have opened the game up and reduced the blitzes. But, he would have had to stand tall, get the pass off, and take the hit. If we get to face GA again in the CFP, I think you'll see a vastly different UT, and alot of Dawg fans eating their words. Kind of like beating Bama this year and not wanting to play them again. For all the UGA fan post game trash talk, I also saw a large consensus that said take the win and go. Give no ammo, and don't want to play UT again this year.

I saw the same thing. I understand its a split second decision, but man if he had rotated his hips and made the read, its a much closer game.

 

[GVF]

I saw the same thing. I understand its a split second decision, but man if he had rotated his hips and made the read, its a much closer game.

It was almost as though he didn't want to get hit SAturday. Prob mid-way 4th qtr, or maybe lsightly more time, when we were poised to maybe mount a comeback, I saw a receiver down the far sideline that had a solid 3 steps on the DB. HH never misses that opportunity. He just kept double pumping and focusing on the covered receivers and dancing like a cat around a mud puddle. THat play was when I realized he was mentally toasted and it wasn't gonna happen.

 

[posivol]

I’ve wondered if Hooker is forcing it to Tillman at times, but that’s probably a knee-jerk reaction. Ockham’s razor would seem to favor the explanation that we were rusty against Pitt and bothered by UGA’s defense.

hook over threw everybody,adreniline or pressure

 

[Pride85]

Hooker just has to stop forcing the ball to him and go back to going through his reads and finding the open man

Let me ask you a simple question, since there are so much finger pointing and blame laying by those who are so very astute with football. Who had the most targets on Saturday? By the "logic" you guys use it had to have been Tillman. Go look at the box score.

 

[Vol865]

Let me ask you a simple question, since there are so much finger pointing and blame laying by those who are so very astute with football. Who had the most targets on Saturday? By the "logic" you guys use it had to have been Tillman. Go look at the box score.

Did I say he targeted him the most? Go watch the game. The fade that got picked off was a bad decision. The DB was in phase and slightly ahead of Tillman and the DB was leveraging the sideline against Tillman. Maybe his route decision was bad too. There was another 3rd and short where Hyatt was open on a shallow crossed and Hooker never even looked his way. I'm pointing out a flaw that is an easy fix because it does need fixed along with a lot of other things. If you can't handle someone's opinion, that's your problem.

 

[Pride85]

Did I say he targeted him the most? Go watch the game. The fade that got picked off was a bad decision. The DB was in phase and slightly ahead of Tillman and the DB was leveraging the sideline against Tillman. Maybe his route decision was bad too. There was another 3rd and short where Hyatt was open on a shallow crossed and Hooker never even looked his way. I'm pointing out a flaw that is an easy fix because it does need fixed along with a lot of other things. If you can't handle someone's opinion, that's your problem.

The problem with your logic is this, you were stating that Tillman being back caused HH to force the ball toward Cedric. HH had an off night overall. He overthrew three other receivers that had nothing to do with Cedric Tillman being on the field. Did the presence of Tillman cause a disruption against KY? It is easy to try and pick out player X or coach Y and blame that person for a loss. My challenge to you is this, why did it work against everyone else, including Bama and LSU, but not Georgia? Did this scheme that has worked so well suddenly become trash because we lost a game that no one thought we were going to win anyways?