Tennessee Vols Basketball Recruiting

[bleedingTNorange]

Rivals guy who saw him last month raved avoid him...who knows, given that coaches haven’t been able to go on the road for a year you’re going to have legit guys under the radar, who knows if he’s one or not.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Rivals guy who saw him last month raved avoid him...who knows, given that coaches haven’t been able to go on the road for a year you’re going to have legit guys under the radar, who knows if he’s one or not.

Very true. Hopefully we offer him and he doesn't look anywhere else. He may not be an immediate impact player next year, but he'd be nice to have on roster once Bailey, JJJ, and Santi are gone.

Guess right now BHH, Stewart, Grady are on my wish list to fill out the roster for 21-22. I still think Chandler is going to be the closest thing we've had to a true NBA starter since Tobias. I feel like Keon/Springer both are going to not get quality minutes for a year or two in the league. Both still seem too raw to be starting right away imo.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Very true. Hopefully we offer him and he doesn't look anywhere else. He may not be an immediate impact player next year, but he'd be nice to have on roster once Bailey, JJJ, and Santi are gone.

Guess right now BHH, Stewart, Grady are on my wish list to fill out the roster for 21-22. I still think Chandler is going to be the closest thing we've had to a true NBA starter since Tobias. I feel like Keon/Springer both are going to not get quality minutes for a year or two in the league. Both still seem too raw to be starting right away imo.

Yea I have no issue with adding a guy like this or Tamba too given the roster explanations this next year, redshirt a couple guys no problem who you like their future and hopefully they develop.

 

[zjcvols]

Yea I have no issue with adding a guy like this or Tamba too given the roster explanations this next year, redshirt a couple guys no problem who you like their future and hopefully they develop.

Eh, usually those guys don’t pan out though. Id rather not have Pember and Gaines leave just to take more projects...like Pember and Gaines were.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Eh, usually those guys don’t pan out though. Id rather not have Pember and Gaines leave just to take more projects...like Pember and Gaines were.

I think Tamba & Quentin are far less of projects than those two. They unfortunately actually had their recruitment impacted by Covid whereas the other guys didn't.

Plus Tamba is 7'0" and has offers from Auburn and Georgetown. Pember and Gaines combined had no other major offers except for us. Another thing to remember is that Gaines is already 21 going on 22 the chance you develop much more out of him is really low. Pember is about to turn 21 this June, and he just doesn't seem to have the right skillset to play in Barnes' system. Not saying the new guys -do- necessarily, but you've had those two projects here for 2 seasons already. So there isn't much you don't know at this point. At least the new faces are younger guys with more potential.

I feel like Quentin definitely would be a higher rated recruit if teams had been traveling and recruiting as normal based on his size and where he was playing (helps he's got great stats as well).

 

[zjcvols]

I think Tamba & Quentin are far less of projects than those two. They unfortunately actually had their recruitment impacted by Covid whereas the other guys didn't.

Plus Tamba is 7'0" and has offers from Auburn and Georgetown. Pember and Gaines combined had no other major offers except for us. Another thing to remember is that Gaines is already 21 going on 22 the chance you develop much more out of him is really low. Pember is about to turn 21 this June, and he just doesn't seem to have the right skillset to play in Barnes' system. Not saying the new guys -do- necessarily, but you've had those two projects here for 2 seasons already. So there isn't much you don't know at this point. At least the new faces are younger guys with more potential.

I feel like Quentin definitely would be a higher rated recruit if teams had been traveling and recruiting as normal based on his size and where he was playing (helps he's got great stats as well).

I wasn’t necessarily referring to those players specifically, but the idea of “oh let’s take a couple projects and then redshirt them and develop them.” Usually those guys don’t pan out. I mean, when’s the last UT player that redshirted because he needed development time and panned out to be good?

 

[MoCo_Vol]

I wasn’t necessarily referring to those players specifically, but the idea of “oh let’s take a couple projects and then redshirt them and develop them.” Usually those guys don’t pan out. I mean, when’s the last UT player that redshirted because he needed development time and panned out to be good?

John Fulkerson, Victor Bailey Jr (set out his first year here as a transfer RS) & Lamonte Turner were the most recent to work out well for us. But don't confuse speculation of them being projects or redshirt candidates by posters as that being the case. Also Tamba could very well play right out the gate, he's essentially another Kyle Alexander type except he seems to already rebound at a high level.

We as fans would love to be able to RS incoming non 4/5 star guys. You always want to keep talent an extra year when possible. But next season James, Santi will both be juniors and Bailey will be a RS-Senior. So that guard group could go from deep/stacked to extremely empty, and it'd make more since with the transfers happening right now to add a guy like Quentin there and see how he develops.

You don't want to put all your eggs in one basket for -next- year's class either. I think there will be a bit of a balance in who we take between HS players and transfers, but I've always preferred to get as many HS guys as possible and Quentin & Tamba fit that bill at least.

 

[zjcvols]

John Fulkerson, Victor Bailey Jr (set out his first year here as a transfer RS) & Lamonte Turner were the most recent to work out well for us. But don't confuse speculation of them being projects or redshirt candidates by posters as that being the case. Also Tamba could very well play right out the gate, he's essentially another Kyle Alexander type except he seems to already rebound at a high level.

We as fans would love to be able to RS incoming non 4/5 star guys. You always want to keep talent an extra year when possible. But next season James, Santi will both be juniors and Bailey will be a RS-Senior. So that guard group could go from deep/stacked to extremely empty, and it'd make more since with the transfers happening right now to add a guy like Quentin there and see how he develops.

You don't want to put all your eggs in one basket for -next- year's class either. I think there will be a bit of a balance in who we take between HS players and transfers, but I've always preferred to get as many HS guys as possible and Quentin & Tamba fit that bill at least.

Turner- Wasn’t eligible
Fulkerson- Got hurt
Bailey- Transfer

None of those fit the profile of what we are talking about. All 3 would have played their freshman year if they could have.

 

[Vol49er]

John Fulkerson, Victor Bailey Jr (set out his first year here as a transfer RS) & Lamonte Turner were the most recent to work out well for us. But don't confuse speculation of them being projects or redshirt candidates by posters as that being the case. Also Tamba could very well play right out the gate, he's essentially another Kyle Alexander type except he seems to already rebound at a high level.

We as fans would love to be able to RS incoming non 4/5 star guys. You always want to keep talent an extra year when possible. But next season James, Santi will both be juniors and Bailey will be a RS-Senior. So that guard group could go from deep/stacked to extremely empty, and it'd make more since with the transfers happening right now to add a guy like Quentin there and see how he develops.

You don't want to put all your eggs in one basket for -next- year's class either. I think there will be a bit of a balance in who we take between HS players and transfers, but I've always preferred to get as many HS guys as possible and Quentin & Tamba fit that bill at least.

I don't think those are great examples. Victor was a junior, had to redshirt, and I dont know that we would even say he worked out. Lamonte also was made to redshirt by the NCAA. And Fulk was playing, and playing well, before getting hurt and getting a retrospective medical redshirt

 

[Vol49er]

Jinx @zjcvols

 

[CornbreadVol]

The only “project” that I think worked out really well for us in recent memory was Alexander but even then he had to play out of necessity so he had an edge in terms of his development.

 

[Vols8086]

I think Tamba & Quentin are far less of projects than those two. They unfortunately actually had their recruitment impacted by Covid whereas the other guys didn't.

Plus Tamba is 7'0" and has offers from Auburn and Georgetown. Pember and Gaines combined had no other major offers except for us. Another thing to remember is that Gaines is already 21 going on 22 the chance you develop much more out of him is really low. Pember is about to turn 21 this June, and he just doesn't seem to have the right skillset to play in Barnes' system. Not saying the new guys -do- necessarily, but you've had those two projects here for 2 seasons already. So there isn't much you don't know at this point. At least the new faces are younger guys with more potential.

I feel like Quentin definitely would be a higher rated recruit if teams had been traveling and recruiting as normal based on his size and where he was playing (helps he's got great stats as well).

A 7 footer in East TN that doesn't average a double double is definitely a project.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

Turner- Wasn’t eligible
Fulkerson- Got hurt
Bailey- Transfer

None of those fit the profile of what we are talking about. All 3 would have played their freshman year if they could have.

Then you're discussing a different profile than I am.

Gaines and Pember are leaving, we have to fill those spots and these two players are better suited to fit the needs of the team than either of them were. Gaines was an offensive liability and not big enough to play inside and a bit slow to stay on faster/quicker guards. Pember was the same story only he had less defensive ability and wasn't as high motor as Gaines. Both are choosing to move on. Tamba is a legit big that plays the position and Quentin is a far more productive HS guard than Gaines or Pember either were at all levels of the game.

I mean if you have other players you'd prefer then feel free to share them, but saying "why not keep Gaines/Pember here another year" isn't happening and it may not have even been the staff's decision for those guys to move on.

 

[golfballs]

So the latest names popping up today are a Senior 7’ pine rider at Colorado and a pg from Monteverde that nobody has ever heard of

 

[MoCo_Vol]

A 7 footer in East TN that doesn't average a double double is definitely a project.

Never said he wasn't a project, but I mean he's also just a junior but 10.3ppg and 7rbpg with 2.4bpg is pretty good. I mean who are you all wanting that's better in the '21 class? Most the bigs are already committed elsewhere...

 

[zjcvols]

Then you're discussing a different profile than I am.

Gaines and Pember are leaving, we have to fill those spots and these two players are better suited to fit the needs of the team than either of them were. Gaines was an offensive liability and not big enough to play inside and a bit slow to stay on faster/quicker guards. Pember was the same story only he had less defensive ability and wasn't as high motor as Gaines. Both are choosing to move on. Tamba is a legit big that plays the position and Quentin is a far more productive HS guard than Gaines or Pember either were at all levels of the game.

I mean if you have other players you'd prefer then feel free to share them, but saying "why not keep Gaines/Pember here another year" isn't happening and it may not have even been the staff's decision for those guys to move on.

You’re not reading what my OP said. I’m not a fan of taking guys with a specific idea of redshirting them because they need development time. Barnes has had 4-5 guys like that now and none of them panned out.

 

[MoCo_Vol]

You’re not reading what my OP said. I’m not a fan of taking guys with a specific idea of redshirting them because they need development time. Barnes has had 4-5 guys like that now and none of them panned out.

That idea is just fan speculation at this point, until they are on campus you don't really know who needs to redshirt for development. I mean Gaines, Olivier, Pember were all going to be RS projects as well when we originally recruited them.

I mean he has to recruit someone, we can't just leave scholarships open next year for walk-ons. It's already basically April I'd prefer to get Walker Kessler, but doesn't seem likely. And if we can get BHH & Tamba then I think that's a win because I'd rather Barnes pull some legit bigs to be on the team that have potential instead of more 6'7" guys he tries to make work as centers, but maybe that's just me.

We have right now at least 5 scholarships available. Gaines & Pember transferring out, Fulky and EJ not counting, and Pons graduating. We fully expect Springer & Keon to leave for the draft so that'd be 7 spots. Me personally I'd rather take HS players, one of which we're already recruiting for the '22 class rather than some transfers that didn't produce where they were. And with 7 spots you could still bring in Quentin, Tamba, BHH, Chandler, Mashack and 2 other guys (most likely transfers) there aren't many '21 guys left to pick-up.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Eh, usually those guys don’t pan out though. Id rather not have Pember and Gaines leave just to take more projects...like Pember and Gaines were.

Well if those guys have decided they want to look elsewhere not much you can do, with that said I think this guy is quite better than those 2 and further along.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

I wasn’t necessarily referring to those players specifically, but the idea of “oh let’s take a couple projects and then redshirt them and develop them.” Usually those guys don’t pan out. I mean, when’s the last UT player that redshirted because he needed development time and panned out to be good?

Well the staff flat out said Alexander would have had they had that luxury, we now have that luxury...more so this year than any other year.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

So the latest names popping up today are a Senior 7’ pine rider at Colorado and a pg from Monteverde that nobody has ever heard of

The Colorado name would be a bit of a surprise to me unless the staff just feels great about Fulk & BHH and wants some size for 1 year backing those guys up.

The kid out of Montverde is pretty legit imo, and not a PG.

 

[wisvol22]

Apparently the draft deadline for a player to enter is May 30th and then the players have up until July 19th to withdrawal (combine is expected to be 10 days before that). With that being said, many programs' 2021-2022 rosters, including ours, may not be set for quite a while.

 

[The Dog]

If UT is in such great shape with Parker Stewart, why would UT, not want him ?

 

[MoCo_Vol]

If UT is in such great shape with Parker Stewart, why would UT, not want him ?

I think numbers wise he can still be had even if they bring in the Montverde SG and Tamba.

By the time the dust settles this class will likely have 5-7 guys in it, some of which will be transfers. And I think Stewart is one of them in it.

 

[walkenvol]

Well the staff flat out said Alexander would have had they had that luxury, we now have that luxury...more so this year than any other year.

Everything we heard pointed towards Vescovi red shirting until he was forced into action with Turner’s injury

 

[BruinVol]

Looks like I’ll need to contact Bruin’s bakery for my cookie, VQ reporting we could see something here this week.

To be honest when you get so many cookies they get old and you get tired of them