Texas Christian Fundamentalists attempt to rewrite YOUR kids' history books

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Interesting article about what is going on in Texas. Their Board of Education, which is in a hammer lock of Christian fundamentalists, is trying to force textbook writers to change the textbooks (and that would change them everywhere) to have theology dominate social studies.

One conservative Republican on the board, who won't even join with them on a lot of it, says they are "rewriting history."

How Christian Were the Founders? - NYTimes.com

Its very long. But here are a few snippets of their agenda, from the article.

In the new guidelines, students taking classes in U.S. government are asked to identify traditions that informed America’s founding, “including Judeo-Christian (especially biblical law),” and to “identify the individuals whose principles of law and government institutions informed the American founding documents,” among whom they include Moses.

Really? Moses as part of American history?



“The guidelines in Texas were seriously deficient in bringing out the role of the Christian faith in the founding of America,” Marshall told me. In a document he prepared for the team that was writing the new guidelines, he urged that new textbooks mold children’s impressions of the founders in particular ways: “The Founding Fathers’ biblical worldview taught them that human beings were by nature self-centered, so they believed that the supernatural influence of the Spirit of God was needed to free us from ourselves so that we can care for our neighbors.”
Marshall also proposed that children be taught that the separation-of-powers notion is “rooted in the Founding Fathers’ clear understanding of the sinfulness of man,” so that it was not safe for one person to exercise unlimited power, and that “the discovery, settling and founding of the colonies happened because of the biblical worldviews of those involved.” Marshall recommended that textbooks present America’s founding and history in terms of motivational stories on themes like the Pilgrims’ zeal to bring the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the natives.


So now the Pilgrims did not leave to escape religious persecution in England (as is basically the theory of every credible historian in the World) but instead they were on a mission?


David Barton reads the “church and state” letter to mean that Jefferson “believed, along with the other founders, that the First Amendment had been enacted only to prevent the federal establishment of a national denomination.” Barton goes on to claim, “ ‘Separation of church and state’ currently means almost exactly the opposite of what it originally meant.” That is to say, the founders were all Christians who conceived of a nation of Christians, and the purpose of the First Amendment was merely to ensure that no single Christian denomination be elevated to the role of state church.
Mainstream scholars disagree, sometimes vehemently. Randall Balmer, a professor of American religious history at Barnard College and writer of the documentary “Crusade: The Life of Billy Graham,” told me: “David Barton has been out there spreading this lie, frankly, that the founders intended America to be a Christian nation. He’s been very effective. But the logic is utterly screwy. He says the phrase ‘separation of church and state’ is not in the Constitution. He’s right about that. But to make that argument work you would have to argue that the phrase is not an accurate summation of the First Amendment. And Thomas Jefferson, who penned it, thought it was.” (David Barton declined to be interviewed for this article.) In his testimony in Austin, Steven Green was challenged by a board member with the fact that the phrase does not appear in the Constitution. In response, Green pointed out that many constitutional concepts — like judicial review and separation of powers — are not found verbatim in the Constitution.


Wow. Just wow.


I am starting to think maybe letting Texas secede is not that awful an idea.
 
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By the way, apologies to gsvol for using his patented ransom note-esque technique of cut and paste.
 
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While your handing out apologies, send one LIO's way for your butchering of "article"
 
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Its already been done by liberals, did you get upset by that?


I have no doubt but that different boards will have political leanings that influence what they think should be in curricula, etc. But to so brazenly push an outright secular point of view is alarming.
 
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In the new guidelines, students taking classes in U.S. government are asked to identify traditions that informed America’s founding, “including Judeo-Christian (especially biblical law),” and to “identify the individuals whose principles of law and government institutions informed the American founding documents,” among whom they include Moses.

Really? Moses as part of American history?


Who is that guy at the front of the Supreme court building with the two tablets in his hands?? The one in the middle! His name escapes me!!!!! Hmmmmmmm!
 
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In the new guidelines, students taking classes in U.S. government are asked to identify traditions that informed America’s founding, “including Judeo-Christian (especially biblical law),” and to “identify the individuals whose principles of law and government institutions informed the American founding documents,” among whom they include Moses.

Really? Moses as part of American history?

Who is that guy at the front of the Supreme court building with the two tablets in his hands?? The one in the middle! His name escapes me!!!!! Hmmmmmmm!


I's like to think that after 300 years we've reached a point where our own institutions can get by without resort to the Dead Sea Scrolls for guidance.
 
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I's like to think that after 300 years we've reached a point where our own institutions can get by without resort to the Dead Sea Scrolls for guidance.

But wasn't your entire point meaning that Moses was not a part of the founding fathers in setting up the governemnt? Last I heard, thats why its called History.
 
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I have no doubt but that different boards will have political leanings that influence what they think should be in curricula, etc. But to so brazenly push an outright secular point of view is alarming.

I believe you are brazenly misusing the term secular. In an alarming way I might add.
 
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The reason these people are elected to the school board is because most of their voters agree with these nutjobs.

It definitely is a bizarre feedback loop.


To go on record, I hope UF goes 4-8 this year. But they have a great graduate school.
 
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I have no doubt but that different boards will have political leanings that influence what they think should be in curricula, etc. But to so brazenly push an outright secular point of view is alarming.

Do you not believe in the principle that the government that is closest to the people is the best for the people?

I thought you were a populist, LG?
 
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Ignore the religious background of the 10 Commandments for a second and you have a pretty darn solid list of rules to live by. Not exactly the most complex set of rules to start your new country on huh? Don't lie, don't steal, don't murder, etc. To teach only evolution is not as incendiary for the masses to handle. Why not teach both and let people make up their own minds? Oh wait, that would mean we stupid humans were allowed to think for ourselves. My bad.
 
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damn that 10th Amendment. Imagine the nerve it must take for a state to exercise some control over the curriculum in it's schools.

Surely, there must be a gaggle of bureaucrats in a central location, over 1000 miles away, that are better able to make the determination of what Texas can teach and what it can't.
 
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damn that 10th Amendment. Imagine the nerve it must take for a state to exercise some control over the curriculum in it's schools.

Surely, there must be a gaggle of bureaucrats in a central location, over 1000 miles away, that are better able to make the determination of what Texas can teach and what it can't.

don't be silly. The only time the local boys are right is when they agree with the collective.
 
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How is this any different from liberals demanding evolution to be taught in schools, etc?

Because evolution, is, you know? Science?

If it was a religiously affiliated private school doing this, I'd have absolutely no problem with it. But it's a public school system.
 
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Because evolution, is, you know? Science?

If it was a religiously affiliated private school doing this, I'd have absolutely no problem with it. But it's a public school system.

If you had it your way, schools would be gov't indoctrination centers.
 

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