Thanks coach dooley for your efforts

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pianoko said:
OP has some valid points. As with anything, there are grey areas. The health of a program is not strictly based on W-L record. No matter how you slice it, Dooley and his family are real, live human beings, with emotions. They aren't robots. Just because our W-L record isn't what we want, it doesn't mean he is a bad person, a jerk, an a** hole, etc. I think we SHOULD thank him for working his tail off for this program, and at the same time, tell him goodbye. Very few people argue with the idea that Dooley's outcome is unacceptable, but that's no reason to act like he's a piece of crap.
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Well if he is a piece of crap, he is a rich one!
 
#27
#27
Thanks for trying your hardest. We really appreciate the effort and the class that you displayed while here.. With that being said........dont let the door knob hit cha where the good lord split cha.
 
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Hey the guy did the best he could. Imagine Dooley as an artist and his utensil instead of fine charcoal a poop crayon, he put something together that wasnt terrible to look at, but at the end of the day it was still painted in....
 
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the five million dollar payoff is all the thanks he's gonna get from me. it wouldn't gall me nearly as bad if i didn't have the abiding conviction that all he accomplished is wasting our time and diminishing our program.
 
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I like Dooley because he's bright and well-spoken--a breath of fresh air after the cloddish last several years of Fulmer and his excuse-making. Dooley has lots of qualities, but maybe good football coach is not one of them. He hired the wrong guy to coach the defense this year--and he was unlucky in the timing of his arrival: the sec is probably stronger now than it has been in 40 years, with five teams in the top 15, not to mention that miss. state arguably has its best team in 20 years, and Vandy is competitive as well. Tough road. I wish him well.
 
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armchair said:
I like Dooley because he's bright and well-spoken--a breath of fresh air after the cloddish last several years of Fulmer and his excuse-making. Dooley has lots of qualities, but maybe good football coach is not one of them. He hired the wrong guy to coach the defense this year--and he was unlucky in the timing of his arrival: the sec is probably stronger now than it has been in 40 years, with five teams in the top 15, not to mention that miss. state arguably has its best team in 20 years, and Vandy is competitive as well. Tough road. I wish him well.
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Very well stated! I feel the exact same way!
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Also I'm so sick and tired of hearing about Dooley inheriting a bad situation. Do you think James Franklin inherited a better situation at Vanderbilt? What about Bill O'Brien at Penn State? I mean come on folks! Stop making excuses.
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Franklin had Sr leadership on the field.
Dooley had So leadership on the field.
 
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VolfanNpa said:
Not everyone will agree but Coach Dooley did leave our program in better shape when he took it over. No one wanted the job because of the mess it was in and he took he job when others would not. No his results were not up to the standards the vol nation expects or deserves but he is leaving us in better shape. For that Coach I do want to say thanks for your efforts.
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I like Dooley, but to say he left us in better shape is ridiculous. That D is pathetic. A lot of his recruits he has stockpiled have been huge reaches that should be playing at Troy.
 
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BACKDOC said:
The same Miss St. team that was killed by both A&M as well as Bama??? The Miss. St. team we faced in the 98 champ. game was a lot better.
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yeah...cut them a little slack..that started 7-0 right? And blew out Arky Saturday.


It is Starkville...anything over seven wins is like a NC for them
 
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armchair said:
I like Dooley because he's bright and well-spoken--a breath of fresh air after the cloddish last several years of Fulmer and his excuse-making. Dooley has lots of qualities, but maybe good football coach is not one of them. He hired the wrong guy to coach the defense this year--and he was unlucky in the timing of his arrival: the sec is probably stronger now than it has been in 40 years, with five teams in the top 15, not to mention that miss. state arguably has its best team in 20 years, and Vandy is competitive as well. Tough road. I wish him well.
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Well spoken ? He sounded like a hick. Nobody wants to play for a hick who has not won any games. I personally don't want Opie coaching my team.
 
#39
#39
:salute:I like coach Dooley as a person, he took the job when no other one wanted it, but he was in over his head from day one, I think him for trying.
 
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:lolabove::lolabove:Thanks, Coach D and I apologize for a few punks on this site disrespecting what you tried to accomplish.
 
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thank you Dooley for being the worst coach in SEC history. For Putting on a front for the cameras when in reality you were a Jack*** behind the scenes. Thx Dooley for giving up on our team with one game left. I'm sure your ex-players are real proud of you. Thx for bending us over for 5 million dollars. Thx for everything. Dang I wish you were still our coach.....
 
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armchair said:
I like Dooley because he's bright and well-spoken--a breath of fresh air after the cloddish last several years of Fulmer and his excuse-making. Dooley has lots of qualities, but maybe good football coach is not one of them. He hired the wrong guy to coach the defense this year--and he was unlucky in the timing of his arrival: the sec is probably stronger now than it has been in 40 years, with five teams in the top 15, not to mention that miss. state arguably has its best team in 20 years, and Vandy is competitive as well. Tough road. I wish him well.
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Dooley is the King of excuse making.
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On whether Dooley left us in a better shape then when he took over I would have to say that for the most part he has. This is not to say that he didn't deserve to be fired because he absolutely did. But the program is not in as bad of shape then when he started because I think that there is a better foundation of talent and depth. Dooley's improvement however did not warrant another year under his care. One of the reasons I believe he was fired was because he was not a good gameplanner, or game adjuster or player manager. He was not a very good X and O's coach, this however does not take away from the foundation that he built. However it takes more then a good foundation to keep your job, winning matters the most. The expectation was that as a foundation was laid the evidence of improvement would eventually come to the surface. This obviously did not happen with Dooley. He could never break through or get over the hump and the slow progress was too small for him to overcome in the end.

If you add all of the pluses and minuses up I do believe it would come out positive. however barely positive. Even though the offense improved the Defense regressed. Special teams for the most part improved (however small) but coaching decisions did not. Dooley built some talent but couldn't manage them on the field toward getting wins for which he came close but never achieved (Just as some examples). While there were some improvements and some regresses overall I think we are in a better spot then when Kiffin left. Dooley may have not been the person for the job because he was a bad coach but that doesn't mean that he didn't leave the program in a better place then he left it. I think a better coach can come in and quickly turn around the program at a much quicker rate due only in a small way to Dooley's very small improvements.

I will leave with this. Improvement however insignificant is still improvement. Dooley did not improve enough to show significant reason to keep him and the evidence suggested that he was not a good coach, but I believe he left a foundation that a better coach can actually work with rather then start from scratch. Kiffin left us without much of a foundation, Dooley left us with a foundation of talent and depth but nothing else. And we at least are prepared this time for a coaching vacancy, that in itself is an improvement over the way Kiffin left.
 
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Aday25 said:
On whether Dooley left us in a better shape then when he took over I would have to say that for the most part he has. This is not to say that he didn't deserve to be fired because he absolutely did. But the program is not in as bad of shape then when he started because I think that there is a better foundation of talent and depth. Dooley's improvement however did not warrant another year under his care. One of the reasons I believe he was fired was because he was not a good gameplanner, or game adjuster or player manager. He was not a very good X and O's coach, this however does not take away from the foundation that he built. However it takes more then a good foundation to keep your job, winning matters the most. The expectation was that as a foundation was laid the evidence of improvement would eventually come to the surface. This obviously did not happen with Dooley. He could never break through or get over the hump and the slow progress was too small for him to overcome in the end.

If you add all of the pluses and minuses up I do believe it would come out positive. however barely positive. Even though the offense improved the Defense regressed. Special teams for the most part improved (however small) but coaching decisions did not. Dooley built some talent but couldn't manage them on the field toward getting wins for which he came close but never achieved (Just as some examples). While there were some improvements and some regresses overall I think we are in a better spot then when Kiffin left. Dooley may have not been the person for the job because he was a bad coach but that doesn't mean that he didn't leave the program in a better place then he left it. I think a better coach can come in and quickly turn around the program at a much quicker rate due only in a small way to Dooley's very small improvements.

I will leave with this. Improvement however insignificant is still improvement. Dooley did not improve enough to show significant reason to keep him and the evidence suggested that he was not a good coach, but I believe he left a foundation that a better coach can actually work with rather then start from scratch. Kiffin left us without much of a foundation, Dooley left us with a foundation of talent and depth but nothing else. And we at least are prepared this time for a coaching vacancy, that in itself is an improvement over the way Kiffin left.
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While I respect your opinion, I have to point out to you that every bit of measurable scientific data goes directly against what you say. I have earlier quoted some of these numbers and will not get into that. While there may be some truth to what you are saying. It's called an intervening variable and means we can assume it to exist but it can't be quantified. All quantifiable data proves that he left this program in worse shape than he got it. Recruiting is one of many great examples. But ultimately, I think his greatest problem was that he was never able to unify his team, never displayed great leadership therefore he never had great leadership!
 
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deckerkd said:
While I respect your opinion, I have to point out to you that every bit of measurable scientific data goes directly against what you say. I have earlier quoted some of these numbers and will not get into that. While there may be some truth to what you are saying. It's called an intervening variable and means we can assume it to exist but it can't be quantified. All quantifiable data proves that he left this program in worse shape than he got it. Recruiting is one of many great examples. But ultimately, I think his greatest problem was that he was never able to unify his team, never displayed great leadership therefore he never had great leadership!
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You are totally right in that we got significantly worse in terms of wins and losses and all of thos quantifiable things. And I totally agree that it would have gotten a lot worse if he had stayed because of all the negative aspects but I'll still hold to my opinion that at least we are prepared this time for a coaching change and at least we don't have the cupboards bare (unlike when Kiffin left), even if they are crums. It is sad that Dooley's first year was more successful despite having less talent. He was a horrible coach and I'm not defending him in anyway. I think a better coach would've had way more success especially one that can unify the talent we have. So in a I'm in argeement with you because the "improvement" (a foundation- one of the few things that carry over- I mean talent/depth) was so insignificant that he needed to go right away and he was clearly not the man for the job. Maybe we're also worse off in terms of peoples perspectives around the country.
 
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#50
So Joker finishes out the last half of the year as a lame duck HC and Dooley can't bring himself to coach our last game? What's up with that?
 
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