The ‘So Crazy It Just Might Work’ thread

[VolBall09]

From what I've seen, the high post is open for the quick shot a lot of the time. All three of those players can exploit that. During warm-ups, the posts shoot quite a bit from 15 feet and make most of them.

Suárez in particular should be getting more 10ft jumpers from that pinch post/high post area. She catches the ball there a lot but not in a position to score. We have been using the high post against the zone more and it is helping to make the defense shift.

 

[FrozenLVFan]

As the season goes on, I hope the staff does make time to put in at least a couple of those plays. If I were a coach I’d have at least three totally surprising plays designed to run ONLY in postseason and ONLY in an end-game situation where my team desperately needs two points to tie or win. They would be plays we practiced for a few minutes every day so that they become instinctual, but never used in a game until that emergency situation to keep it from being scouted/anticipated/planned for. My “emergency surprise plays” would most definitely involve using some combinations of guards and wings in the post.

It's pretty hard to keep plays a secret when other coaches are printing up their versions of our playbook and then we post it on this forum.

The 2020 Tennessee Lady Vols

Can we make it any easier for other teams to scout us?

 

[VolBall09]

It's pretty hard to keep plays a secret when other coaches are printing up their versions of our playbook and then we post it on this forum.

The 2020 Tennessee Lady Vols

Can we make it any easier for other teams to scout us?

I didn’t appreciate that either. Some weirdo HS coach. Thanks dude. I’m sure the coaching staff wouldn’t like that much either. I know game film is available from opposing teams and they obviously have the basketball kind to suss out the plays, but there is no reason print our playbook for everyone to see.

 

[LadyVols_WBK]

I didn’t appreciate that either. Some weirdo HS coach. Thanks dude. I’m sure the coaching staff wouldn’t like that much either. I know game film is available from opposing teams and they obviously have the basketball kind to suss out the plays, but there is no reason print our playbook for everyone to see.

to be fair he does it for every major WBB Team

 

[FrozenLVFan]

Yes, other teams watch game film and take notes, but that's time consuming. So this playbook business saves them time. Then KJH and staff have to make up some new plays, not so much the live ball plays, but inbounding (which hasn't been one of our strong points for a while) and situational plays, and the team has to practice them. And that takes us time.

 

[VolBall09]

to be fair he does it for every major WBB Team

I would consider that stuff intellectual proprietary information. Coaches are very private with that sort of information. Would not be surprised if his page disappears.

 

[GameTime]

I hope they have them shooting as well. Really think we’re going to see the post game evolve with recruiting. Looks like Coach is after versatile girls that can shoot the rock. Tamari, Kk and Emily were never recruited to shoot from deep but it sure would be nice if at least one of them could knock down the occasional outside shot to keep the D honest.

Coach Kellie knows the landscape of basketball is changing....Just like football, superb offense is now needed to win championships.

Soon to be wearing Lady Vol colors:
Karoline Striplin....6'2" can and will bang inside, and pop from the deep outside...
Sara Puckett....6'2" down low scrapper and will pop all day long from the outside...
And then the following season:
Justine Pissott 6'3" The ultimate deep outside threat....

I can see a triple wing attack....It would be unstoppable!

 

[VolBall09]

Coach Kellie knows the landscape of basketball is changing....Just like football, superb offense is now needed to win championships.

Soon to be wearing Lady Vol colors:
Karoline Striplin....6'2" can and will bang inside, and pop from the deep outside...
Sara Puckett....6'2" down low scrapper and will pop all day long from the outside...
And then the following season:
Justine Pissott 6'3" The ultimate deep outside threat....

I can see a triple wing attack....It would be unstoppable!

I agree, if everyone can stay healthy we are about to get a lot harder to guard over the next two seasons. Teams are going to have to play us in a man more if everyone can hit from the outside. Will be forced to guard every player on the floor as well. At any given time this season we have 1 or 2 players on the floor who are not much of a scoring threat. Makes it that much tougher for our players who are.

 

[therickbol]

I would consider that stuff intellectual proprietary information. Coaches are very private with that sort of information. Would not be surprised if his page disappears.

Ummmm....it comes straight off of video of the games. Nothing proprietary about it. I see teams do stuff and steal it just like every other coach does. Now sneaking into practice and recording how they practice their stuff would be a whole 'nother situation.

 

[drawing dead]

Coach Kellie knows the landscape of basketball is changing....Just like football, superb offense is now needed to win championships.

Soon to be wearing Lady Vol colors:
Karoline Striplin....6'2" can and will bang inside, and pop from the deep outside...
Sara Puckett....6'2" down low scrapper and will pop all day long from the outside...
And then the following season:
Justine Pissott 6'3" The ultimate deep outside threat....

I can see a triple wing attack....It would be unstoppable!

I don’t see it but I will leave at that. I give you props though, there is no denying your desire for us to be great again.

Gametime you are a true and I mean true VFL.

 

[Rickster]

Does anyone else have any other “crazy but might just work” ideas? It doesn’t have to be anything that becomes the new-normal for the team — just something you think might be intriguing enough to try even once. Have some fun with it!

I believe we should bring in the world renowned experts in pokes, jabs and slaps....the Three Stooges. Larry and Curly could teach defense and Moe could teach offense. Merry Christmas!

 

[GameTime]

I don’t see it but I will leave at that. I give you props though, there is no denying your desire for us to be great again.

Gametime you are a true and I mean true VFL.

Thanks Double D......Thank you very much...I do love this team.

The "triple wing attack" could be an offensive version of the 1-3-1 defensive zone strategy....For example, have Key on the low block, and Miles at the point....The opponents defense would be hard pressed to stop the outside shooting, with our 3 big gunners slashing through the lane to scrape off their defenders ...

Hell, even the elbow would be wide open with quick side to side ball movement...If they try and take away the outside shot, little Miles can penetrate for a quick lay up, or a pass to a ready outside gunner if they close in on her....

With the before mentioned lineup, we could also run a version of the picket fence all game long, or when needed....As long as we don't get caught watching the paint dry we could not be stopped.....These gunners are big and tall, and they love offense....

Guys, it's going to be STUPENDOUS!!!!!!

 

[37620VOL]

Yes, other teams watch game film and take notes, but that's time consuming. So this playbook business saves them time. Then KJH and staff have to make up some new plays, not so much the live ball plays, but inbounding (which hasn't been one of our strong points for a while) and situational plays, and the team has to practice them. And that takes us time.

That's not how it works at all. We scout all the teams we play and they all scout us. This isn't Micky Mouse basketball. Everyone knows everyone else's base offense and game plans to stop it. Further those "play books" are beyond basic. Every one of those sets has multiple cuts and options based on how the defense chooses to "play the play".

 

[37620VOL]

You asked for crazy...

Run the basketball version of the 'flying v' from Mighty Ducks

 

[37620VOL]

Ok. Here's a crazy COVID mitigation plan. SEC stops its regular season after 2/19. Whatever games you get in, fine. All teams (players and tier 1 staff) go into a bubble in Greenville on 2/20; rent out a hotel, test daily. The tournament is AAU style. Pool play begins on 2/26, one game every day.

Here are the pools based on current SEC standings:
1. SC, Ark, Aub
2. TAMU, MSU, Omiss
3. UT, Bama, UF
4. UK, LSU, UGA, Mizz
(It would be nice if Aub would opt out, because then the pools could be even.)

One team from each pool advances to a 4 team tourny. First round on March 5, consolation on March 6, and title game on March 7.

 

[creekdipper]

Here's another crazy idea: Play three games on some weeks to make up games.

If the SEC tournament takes place, teams will be playing daily. How much harder could it be to play a Sun.-Tues.-Thurs. schedule for a couple of weeks if necessary?

Another option would be to swap out some repeat games with teams that have already played each other to make room for teams that haven't played. Wouldn't make the home team happy, but better to play each team once than some twice and others not at all.

Save the reruns for the end of season if they can be squeezed in.

 

[37620VOL]

Save the reruns for the end of season if they can be squeezed in.

That's good right there.

 

[stllvf]

I have liked the title of this thread from the beginning, but now with the reality of the season in place the word CRAZY is no longer needed. simply several good ideas with merit that just might work.

however, if at the end of the season a team has a time-out that essentially removes them from post-season games.

 

[Rickster]

I'm telling you the slapping and poking done by our opponents needs to be countered. If the officials won't address it (and we know they have their favorites and to hell with everyone else), we need to bring in some professionals who experience this daily.

 

[Benionsopinion]

I'm telling you the slapping and poking done by our opponents needs to be countered. If the officials won't address it (and we know they have their favorites and to hell with everyone else), we need to bring in some professionals who experience this daily.

Rickster,this has been ongoing for some time and seems to me to be worse this year. Lady vols are harassed by slapping,holding,shoving,etc. with very few calls made,while Lady Vols are called for touch fouls. Rennia has been practically a punching bag for other teams since her first game as a Lady Vol. I believe this is one reason why she seems to be less vocal during games. Along with being quiet, she knows that she will not get equal treatment from officials. Other Lady Vols get the same treatment. The trend to let our Lady Vols be done this way has been evident to me for at least three years now. Officials should make calls the same way on both ends of the playing floor. That has been absent for some time now.

 

[Rickster]

I know. It appears something is going on above and beyond the most apparent reason...the officials are barely competent.

 

[Rickster]

I wonder what the game review process actually does. Are poor calls addressed? Celebrated?

Officiating has been poor for a long time and improvement does not appear to be trending favorably.

 

[VolBall09]

I wonder what the game review process actually does. Are poor calls addressed? Celebrated?

Officiating has been poor for a long time and improvement does not appear to be trending favorably.

Ive been complaining for years. It seems to be mostly an SEC problem. When I watch PAC 12, Big 10, Big 12 games etc. I hardly even notice the officiating. It isn’t just UTs games that are poorly called. Across the board the officiating is much worse in the SEC.

Very specifically, Cameron Inouye is a problem. She’s an absolutely terrible official. Have seen her T up more coaches and players than anyone. It’s because she SUCKS. People get on her case and she gives them a T. I think she’s pretty high up in the SEC officiating hierarchy as she seems to do a lot of the big games. She’s an absolutely horrible official and her games are always messy and inconsistent.

If you want to see her massively screw the pooch go watch the last few minutes of the A&M Arkansas game earlier this year. Some of the worst officiating I’ve seen in a long time. The entire game it was bad. The last minute or two it was absolutely egregious. You know there is a problem when both coaches, including Blair who won, are still on the sidelines pissed after the final horn has gone off.

Maybe whistle happy due to the physicality in this league? I’m not sure. But it is very frustrating to see the same poor calls year after year.

 

[VolBall09]

Maybe we should all start a petition and send it to the SEC. We need some new blood in the officiating pool. Seems like we have had the same ones for a long time. They’re all getting old and they’re not getting any better.

Always respected Dee Kanter. She’s been around for years and calls a good game. She’s fair and let’s the teams play. I think she officiated our Florida game and that was the most contact Tamari and Kasi have been allowed this season IMO.

 

[Rickster]

Maybe we should all start a petition and send it to the SEC. We need some new blood in the officiating pool. Seems like we have had the same ones for a long time. They’re all getting old and they’re not getting any better.

Always respected Dee Kanter. She’s been around for years and calls a good game. She’s fair and let’s the teams play. I think she officiated our Florida game and that was the most contact Tamari and Kasi have been allowed this season IMO.

Send Kanter too. She makes a lot of controversial calls just to get attention. I call it Kanter ball. She's decided a lot of games by her whistle.