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#26
#26
There's literally no chance Winston is convicted of anything before the end of the season. They'll drag this out as long as possible

There's little to no chance of him being convicted before the end of next season. But he'll either be charged or not within the next couple of weeks.
 
#27
#27
There's little to no chance of him being convicted before the end of next season. But he'll either be charged or not within the next couple of weeks.

I meant to say charged in my previous post, but yeah, I have a hard time believing that he wouldn't be dismissed after being charged with a felony offense. I am also fairly sure any UT players that have been charged with a felony were immediately dismissed.

I need some examples where people were charged with a felony and remained on the team.
 
#28
#28
I meant to say charged in my previous post, but yeah, I have a hard time believing that he wouldn't be dismissed after being charged with a felony offense. I am also fairly sure any UT players that have been charged with a felony were immediately dismissed.

I need some examples where people were charged with a felony and remained on the team.

Florida State actually has a policy that requires suspension from the field of play if one is charged with a felony, but it does not require dismissal. That's not to say that FSU couldn't dismiss Winston if he's charged.
 
#30
#30
Barf. Lifetime achievement award and makes the award even more meaningless than it is now.

The available candidates are all pretty weak. The question is, which of these players instantly makes his team better? JFF.
 
#31
#31
If Winston doesn't get it it'll be an embarrassment. Best player deserves the nation's top award, off-the-field stuff or no off-the-field stuff. There's enough lifetime achievement awards to go around at team banquets.

If off-the-field stuff doesn't matter, Reggie would would still have his trophy. I don't think the committee will overlook the pending case. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but then again, I don't necessarily agree with the "winner" every year.
 
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#32
#32
Okie State was #10 in the nation with the #11 rated defense. So it wasn't a pushover by any means. And Baylor has TCU and Texas left. TCU is having a rough year, but Texas is doing okay. Not great, but okay.

I'd say he has a far better shot than Manziel. A one loss Baylor team with some pretty strong numbers for Petty will still get looked at pretty strong as everyone has a bad game every once in a while. Even Manziel had a bad game or two last year.

Baylor will be TCU's bowl game and Gary Fatterson will always field a salty defense. Bryce will need to scorch the earth in Ft Worth on Saturday.

With the passing of Art's brother on Wednesday the Bears should be highly motivated to shine for the Briles family.
 
#39
#39
Winston in a landslide. Nobody else did what they needed to do down the stretch. McCarron didn't win the Iron Bowl. Manziel and A&M had 2 losses and underwhelming offensive performances in their last two games. Williams - as soon as everyone found out who he was - got hurt and rushed for less than 50 yards in his last game.

And give me a break with Jordan Lynch. If someone outside the BCS conferences is going to have a case, it's because they've been phenomenal. Cam Newton and Johnny Football put up better numbers as dual threat QBs and they played against big boy defenses.
 
#40
#40
they just weren't gameplanning for Williams before?

dang, that's weird.
 
#41
#41
Winston in a landslide. Nobody else did what they needed to do down the stretch. McCarron didn't win the Iron Bowl. Manziel and A&M had 2 losses and underwhelming offensive performances in their last two games. Williams - as soon as everyone found out who he was - got hurt and rushed for less than 50 yards in his last game.

And give me a break with Jordan Lynch. If someone outside the BCS conferences is going to have a case, it's because they've been phenomenal. Cam Newton and Johnny Football put up better numbers as dual threat QBs and they played against big boy defenses.

Check lynch's numbers again.
 
#42
#42
I would like to see Brandin Cooks (WR Oregon State) get some press. 120 catches for 1670 yards 15 tds, 28 carries for 188 and 2 tds. Ran for more yards against USC than Andre Williams.
 
#43
#43
Check lynch's numbers again.

Comparing him to other Heisman-winning DT QBs: more rushing yards, fewer passing yards, passing TDs, rushing TDs. The other three faced SEC defenses. Not a Heisman resume considering he's in the MAC.

Passing Yards
2012 Manziel - 3706
2007 Tebow - 3286
2010 Cam - 2854
2013 Lynch - 2457

Rushing Yards
2013 Lynch - 1755
2010 Cam - 1473
2012 Manziel - 1410
2007 Tebow - 895

Passing TDs
2007 Tebow - 32
2010 Cam - 30
2012 Manziel - 26
2013 Lynch - 22

Rushing TDs
2007 Tebow - 23
2012 Manziel - 21
2010 Cam - 20
2013 Lynch - 20
 
#46
#46
Really thought AJ and co would get past Auburn. Guess now it has to go to Winston as the clear front runner provided he has no charges.

What could have been I suppose.
 

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