The Alabama Postgame Report: SEC Tourney Edition

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CM reverted back to early season mistakes and Trae's energy and effort are inexcusable. So what if they press. Attack it. We were tight and scared all day. Rotation sucked and my guess is kenny hall played the most minutes he has in 10 games. He plays, we lose. Many more factors of course, but that's a fact.

Can't believe it's on the line and we go out like that. CM said he liked the effort. That's horse****.
 
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Randolph and Lacey also hit a couple of absolute garbage shots.

Lacey had I think 2 contested step-back jump shots and Randolph had that drive and garbage contested finish off the glass right when we'd cut it to 4 (Kenny was all over him, and without fouling).

I swear, I was happy with those shots, then they went in. Those guys wouldn't hit those again given 10 more tries, especially with Randolph's basket.

****.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
CM reverted back to early season mistakes and Trae's energy and effort are inexcusable. So what if they press. Attack it. We were tight and scared all day. Rotation sucked and my guess is kenny hall played the most minutes he has in 10 games. He plays, we lose. Many more factors of course, but that's a fact.

Can't believe it's on the line and we go out like that. CM said he liked the effort. That's horse****.
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Oh yeah, I'm sure the players decided not to give 100% in a SEC Tourney game with a chance at the NCAA on the line.

You're smarter than this.
 
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I thought the refs allowed Bama to be a tad more physical than they did Tennessee. (Not the reason we lost, just saying)
 
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zjcvols said:
Oh yeah, I'm sure the players decided not to give 100% in a SEC Tourney game with a chance at the NCAA on the line.

You're smarter than this.
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I didn't feel like he was saying we consciously decided not to give effort. Sometimes, it's just a mindset, and you don't realize it until later, that you didn't give it your all. Sometimes not until many years later looking back.
 
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zjcvols said:
Oh yeah, I'm sure the players decided not to give 100% in a SEC Tourney game with a chance at the NCAA on the line.

You're smarter than this.
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Z, if you don't think Trae could have played with more effort, you are too biased to make a postgame report.
And effort on the pick and roll sucked all day too. What was on the line doesn't matter when a player is in the middle of the game and in la la land.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I didn't feel like he was saying we consciously decided not to give effort. Sometimes, it's just a mindset, and you don't realize it until later, that you didn't give it your all. Sometimes not until many years later looking back.
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Maybe Spart is talking about our effort in execution. The execution was awfully poor. I highly doubt those guys didn't give 100%. They tried. It just didn't happen today.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I didn't feel like he was saying we consciously decided not to give effort. Sometimes, it's just a mindset, and you don't realize it until later, that you didn't give it your all. Sometimes not until many years later looking back.
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anybody that thinks all of our guys laid it on the line today need to rethink their ability to watch basketball
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Z, if you don't think Trae could have played with more effort, you are too biased to make a postgame report.
And effort on the pick and roll sucked all day too. What was on the line doesn't matter when a player is in the middle of the game and in la la land.
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I'm sure Trae didn't care and decided not to give 100%. He got zoned, missed some early shots, and like normal went that happens, lost his confidence.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Z, if you don't think Trae could have played with more effort, you are too biased to make a postgame report.
And effort on the pick and roll sucked all day too. What was on the line doesn't matter when a player is in the middle of the game and in la la land.
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Announcers harped on this all day.
 
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zjcvols said:
Maybe Spart is talking about our effort in execution. The execution was awfully poor. I highly doubt those guys didn't give 100%. They tried. It just didn't happen today.
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did trae push the ball up the floor one time today? I was sitting 10 feet away. When we tried to get the ball in against the press, on many occasions, he made zero effort. Everybody down there was trying to get him going. His body language sucked and his energy sucked. That's not 100% effort.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
anybody that thinks all of our guys laid it on the line today need to rethink their ability to watch basketball
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Easy to say when watching on the couch.

Saying "We didn't have a good effort" is a cop out to simply saying Alabama just kicked our asses. They played better. Saying they played harder, which is what you are insinuating, is an insult to the players who have worked their asses off all season. There have been games where the effort wasn't there and I have said that. Today was not such a game.
 
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zjcvols said:
I'm sure Trae didn't care and decided not to give 100%. He got zoned, missed some early shots, and like normal went that happens, lost his confidence.
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you and I have different meaning of effort in this instance. I'm not saying he tried to lose or didn't care. I'm saying his, and a couple others, effort absolutely sucked.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
did trae push the ball up the floor one time today? I was sitting 10 feet away. When we tried to get the ball in against the press, on many occasions, he made zero effort. Everybody down there was trying to get him going. His body language sucked and his energy sucked. That's not 100% effort.
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Man, it's like Alabama pressed us or something to make sure we didn't get easy transition buckets. Trae was going to get ball almost all the time.

And I guess you missed his body language/energy level in the first ten minutes when he was clapping after a big defensive stop and then then when he hit a shot told his team "Let's ****ing go!"

He lost his confidence during the game. Again.
 
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zjcvols said:
Easy to say when watching on the couch.

Saying "We didn't have a good effort" is a cop out to simply saying Alabama just kicked our asses. They played better. Saying they played harder, which is what you are insinuating, is an insult to the players who have worked their asses off all season. There have been games where the effort wasn't there and I have said that. Today was not such a game.
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-we didn't have good effort as a team
-bama had better effort and attacked, we didn't. They played harder and won.
-i've been watching players play since the 70's, and know when effort is there and when it isn't, without needing a lesson. It's basketball and it happens, unfortunately. Has nothing to do with "insulting" the players.

I just can't believe you think Trae laid it on the line today. Stokes had a double double but he could have done more too. When the buzzer sounded, do you believe we left it all out on the floor? Really?
 
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zjcvols said:
Man, it's like Alabama pressed us or something to make sure we didn't get easy transition buckets. Trae was going to get ball almost all the time.

And I guess you missed his body language/energy level in the first ten minutes when he was clapping after a big defensive stop and then then when he hit a shot told his team "Let's ****ing go!"

He lost his confidence during the game. Again.
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Yes he lost confidence, which led to poor effort. And the game is 40 minutes. Not the first 10.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
-we didn't have good effort as a team
-bama had better effort and attacked, we didn't. They played harder and won.
-i've been watching players play since the 70's, and know when effort is there and when it isn't, without needing a lesson. It's basketball and it happens, unfortunately. Has nothing to do with "insulting" the players.

I just can't believe you think Trae laid it on the line today. Stokes had a double double but he could have done more too. When the buzzer sounded, do you believe we left it all out on the floor? Really?
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The players could have done more, sure. It doesn't matter what happens, every player, win or lose, could do more. Nobody gives 110% every single play. It's an overused expression.
 
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zjcvols said:
The players could have done more, sure. It doesn't matter what happens, every player, win or lose, could do more. Nobody gives 110% every single play. It's an overused expression.
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I'm just not happy. Paid a lot to sit down there. Have to go to a function tonight. Don't want to go. Now I think we are NIT bound.

It hurts more because we didn't leave it out on the floor. No D1 team scores 48, shoots 25 3's and leaves it out on the floor. Besides trae playing bad, I hardly remember one boxout, which is all about effort.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
do you, or I, even know what "execution" we were trying today?

Walk it up, don't attack, don't penetrate and stand around? I assume that wasn't the plan from the bench.
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It wasn't. I believe the gameplan was to get it in to Stokes, and let him work. At times, it happened, sometimes it didn't. Alabama did a great job defensively. Jordan missed some shots he usually hits and that is what ultimately killed UT.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
I'm just not happy. Paid a lot to sit down there. Have to go to a function tonight. Don't want to go. Now I think we are NIT bound.

It hurts more because we didn't leave it out on the floor. No D1 team scores 48, shoots 25 3's and leaves it out on the floor. Besides trae playing bad, I hardly remember one boxout, which is all about effort.
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Well UT had the same amount of rebounds that Alabama had and Bama had 10 less shots. They had 15 offensive rebounds. So even if they weren't boxing out, whatever the hell they were doing worked perfectly fine.

And even though Bama picked UT apart in the first half, Bama didn't get much going in the second half and UT held them to 41% shooting overall.

Of course you aren't happy. I'm not either. But that's the beauty of sports, sadly.
 
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