The Arguments for Dooley

[oldsmokey67]

Here is the reality of the situation: OBama has performed poorly and is in over his head. He blames much of his troubles on Bush or the current Replublicans in the House or Senate. HE WILL BE RE ELECTED:::
He will lose the popular vote but will win the Electoral College.


Dooley has performed poorly and is in over his head. Blame is put on Kiffin, Fulmer and Hamilton for the reasons for Dooley's issues. HE WILL BE THE U.T. FOOTBALL COACH IN 2013. He will lose his teams support and most of the fans support but the Powers That Be will keep him in place.


Do y'all see the similiarities?????

I hope you are wrong.Another year with those two i might put a bullit in my head.

 

[Wilhelm16]

Lol thank janzen jackson???

Kiffins class has 3 players left from it. Why should he be praised again?

I despise Lane Kiffin. I'm not praising him, but the 2010 team was much better top to bottom than the 2012 product and Dooley has everything to do with it. He inherited a team that could play a little defense. Can you say that now?

 

[keithvol1071]

Considering 5 coaches turned us down before dooley accepted it and all the lane kiffin stuff, and us being inestigated by ncaa.. yes it was a mess

Do you have a source that 5 coaches turnes us down?

 

[HankHill]

Point to something. ANYTHING that says we are more competitive. Almost winning games means nothing. Hal Mumme's Kentucky teams were in alot of games. Do you like going into every game knowing that the offense must score 40-50 pts just to have a chance to win?

NEWSFLASH: We used to beat UGA, MSU, and SC. Kiffin beat UGA and SC. This is the reality with Derek Dooley. He gets outcoached. He is terrible, and your defense of him is that we're not under investigation? That's not because he came in like Jesus into the temple throwing out the money changers, it's because the NCAA completed their investigation.

We had the ball on the final drive to win against miss st,uga, and sc... that's more competitive.

Why are you so big on clk? He lost to a terrible ucla and auburn team. And he is getting outcoached every week at USC. He got us under ncaa investigation.. he beat the worse uga team in 10 years...

And did you forget the nfl talent that was on his team?? Let me refresh you

Eric berry, dan williams, montario hardesty, luke stocker, den moore, janzen jackson, rico mccoy, bryce brown..etc

And his recruiting class was horrible.. let's praise him for leaving us 3 players

 

[DeepSpringsVol]

An interim coach for a whole offseason and year? That would've killed recruiting. No one would've commited to an interim coach

Yeah and Dooley has been the answer. At least we would have made a proper hire if Kippy didn't succeed his one season with no buyout. We would have had the funds to get whichever candidate wanted the job the next season that was actually qualified.

 

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Ohio St. agrees.

Aaaaaaaaaannnd....Boom.

 

[HankHill]

Do you have a source that 5 coaches turnes us down?

Troy calhoun, cutcliffe, brian kelly, will muschamp, and kyle wittingham all turned us down. That is widely known

 

[DynaVol]

How is it dumb? you, among others, always cry about not getting a big name coach and all this but that fact of the matter is no big name coach wanted to come here, and we will find that out again after this year

Hammy is that you?

If not, did you actually see the list with the coaching names crossed off of it?

Could big name coaches have been interested but Hammy didn't want to spend decent coin to bring them here?

Hammy went coach shopping at Wally World instead of Sak's and the high quality coaching we see is exactly what he paid for to cover his butt quickly after Lane bailed.

 

[HankHill]

Yeah and Dooley has been the answer. At least we would have made a proper hire if Kippy didn't succeed his one season with no buyout. We would have had the funds to get whichever candidate wanted the job the next season that was actually qualified.

But that would've killed recruiting. And that's the problem, "whtever candidate WANTED the job" what if a "splash" still doesn't want the job

 

[DeepSpringsVol]

I don't recall Kiffin constantly having the wrong number of players on the field. Dooley constantly has this problem and it is always near the goalline and we waste a timeout and the other team scores anyways. Pathetic.

 

[HankHill]

Hammy is that you?

If not, did you actually see the list with the coaching names crossed off of it?

Could big name coaches have been interested but Hammy didn't want to spend decent coin to bring them here?

Hammy went coach shopping at Wally World instead of Sak's and the high quality coaching we see is exactly what he paid for to cover his butt quickly after Lane bailed.

Cutcliffe, calhoun, kelly, wittingham, muschamp all turned down UT. And who knows who else was gauged and. Said no. Those are the ones who
Publicly turned us down

 

[DeepSpringsVol]

But that would've killed recruiting. And that's the problem, "whtever candidate WANTED the job" what if a "splash" still doesn't want the job

Then let Kippy ride it out with no buyout. I don't think it would have been as bad recruiting as you think. Matter of fact Kippy could have put together excellent coaches who love this university and use his NFL connections as a recruiting tool.

 

[DERELICK_MY_VOLS]

You're post is just wrong in so many ways. I am not a fan of dooley. But to say were less competitve is stupid. We have been in positionn to win 4 of our 5 losses.

Lose by an inch or lose by a mile....a loss is a loss. Winners find ways to win when you are only an inch away...Dooley has proven he has no clue how to do that.

Saying we have been in position to win 4 of our 5 losses...as if that should be a defense for Dooley?

To me that is like being the smartest kid with Down Syndrome.....or wiping your @$$ before you :crap2: ....it makes absolutely no sense.

 

[HankHill]

Then let Kippy ride it out with no buyout. I don't think it would have been as bad recruiting as you think. Matter of fact Kippy could have put together excellent coaches who love this university and use his NFL connections as a recruiting tool.

I don't disagree with you.

I just think its a real risky move to leave the program in limbo for a whole year and half

 

[OrangeSquid]

I think some are confusing how well this team plays with the state of the program. ....

IMO, that is in spite of the coaching. I just can't recall any games we won that is due to brilliant play calling. Most have been due to outright raw physical talent by a few players and Luck.

Can anyone confirm that he has yet to win a game where he was the underdog? I remember this stat last year, but haven't heard anything about it so far this year. That was from his time at La Tech and UT...working on 6 years as a HC and still hasn't beaten a team when he was the underdog.

If true, that's the most telling stat I know of...

Can't answer that, but; I believe we have lost when we weren't the underdog.

1 game? Have you watched this year? I would rather be under investigation by the NCAA then watch a performance that embarrassing.

+1, under investigation does not equal found guilty and sanctioned.

 

[HankHill]

Lose by an inch or lose by a mile....a loss is a loss. Winners find ways to win when you are only an inch away...Dooley has proven he has no clue how to do that.

Saying we have been in position to win 4 of our 5 losses...as if that should be a defense for Dooley?

To me that is like being the smartest kid with Down Syndrome.....or wiping your @$$ before you :crap2: ....it makes absolutely no sense.

You're taking my post out of context. I'm not defending DD or moral victorys. That's in response to someone who said were not even competing this year

 

[DeepSpringsVol]

Lose by an inch or lose by a mile....a loss is a loss. Winners find ways to win when you are only an inch away...Dooley has proven he has no clue how to do that.

Saying we have been in position to win 4 of our 5 losses...as if that should be a defense for Dooley?

To me that is like being the smartest kid with Down Syndrome.....or wiping your @$$ before you :crap2: ....it makes absolutely no sense.

:lolabove: Yeah 20 years from now when we look at the media guide with all the results. No one will say we had the ball last in those games and came up short. We will see the loss after loss after loss and be glad it is distant history.

 

[HankHill]

We were in contention to get slapped with a lack of institutional control penalty. That was the major red flag for wittingham and kelly for not accepting our job

 

[Wilhelm16]

We had the ball on the final drive to win against miss st,uga, and sc... that's more competitive.

Why are you so big on clk? He lost to a terrible ucla and auburn team. And he is getting outcoached every week at USC. He got us under ncaa investigation.. he beat the worse uga team in 10 years...

And did you forget the nfl talent that was on his team?? Let me refresh you

Eric berry, dan williams, montario hardesty, luke stocker, den moore, janzen jackson, rico mccoy, bryce brown..etc

And his recruiting class was horrible.. let's praise him for leaving us 3 players

I'm not big on LK. The players that Dooley took to the Music City Bowl were mostly Phil Fulmer's. I said to thank Kiffin for Bray, because without him we're not scoring 55 points to beat Troy. I said thank him for Janzen, because without him in the secondary Dooley would still be seeking his first bowl appearance. I said he beat UGA and SC, because you act like Dooley inherited a team that was incapable of doing it. It had just been done in 2009!

The off the field stuff is irelevant, because it didn't lead to anything. Dooley's on the field product is what people take issue with. Also, since when does having the ball on the final drive equal being more competitive?

 

[DeepSpringsVol]

We were in contention to get slapped with a lack of institutional control penalty. That was the major red flag for wittingham and kelly for not accepting our job

I believe Kelly flew us the old double bird for not hiring him when we hired Kiffin. Kelly had mentioned that he was hours from being our coach till Lane promised to put an all star staff together. (paraphrasing of course) I believe he felt slighted.

 

[HankHill]

I'm not big on LK. The players that Dooley took to the Music City Bowl were mostly Phil Fulmer's. I said to thank Kiffin for Bray, because without him we're not scoring 55 points to beat Troy. I said thank him for Janzen, because without him in the secondary Dooley would still be seeking his first bowl appearance. I said he beat UGA and SC, because you act like Dooley inherited a team that was incapable of doing it. It had just been done in 2009!

The off the field stuff is irelevant, because it didn't lead to anything. Dooley's on the field product is what people take issue with. Also, since when does having the ball on the final drive equal being more competitive?

Look at the players CLK beat uga and sc with.

We got blown out last year in those sec games and this year we have the ball on the final drove with a chance to win?? How the hell is that not more competitive?

 

[DynaVol]

Cutcliffe, calhoun, kelly, wittingham, muschamp all turned down UT. And who knows who else was gauged and. Said no. Those are the ones who
Publicly turned us down

Heard that Cut wanted to bring staff from Duke and was told no, he had to keep some of ours.
Heard that Muschamp wanted a contract clause that allowed him to walk away with no monetary penalty.
Calhoun, Kelly, Wittingham, or any other decent coach were not going to get hired here with what Hammy wanted to pay after seeing what we were willing to pay Lane & company.
I'll say it again, Hammy wanted to shop at Sak's with a prepaid Wally World card.

 

[Wolfeman_Vol]

Here is the reality of the situation: OBama has performed poorly and is in over his head. He blames much of his troubles on Bush or the current Replublicans in the House or Senate. HE WILL BE RE ELECTED:::
He will lose the popular vote but will win the Electoral College.


Dooley has performed poorly and is in over his head. Blame is put on Kiffin, Fulmer and Hamilton for the reasons for Dooley's issues. HE WILL BE THE U.T. FOOTBALL COACH IN 2013. He will lose his teams support and most of the fans support but the Powers That Be will keep him in place.


Do y'all see the similiarities?????

For Christ sake, keep politics out of here. Not everyone wants to read that garbage.

 

[Wilhelm16]

Look at the players CLK beat uga and sc with.

We got blown out last year in those sec games and this year we have the ball on the final drove with a chance to win?? How the hell is that not more competitive?

We are still getting railroaded in those SEC games! Have you forgotten that UGA scored 51 points on us? You're confusing scoring points with being competitive. When you have to count on being able to score 40-50 points you aren't being competitive. You just have an exciting offense that's going to score a ton of points and still lose. When you have to count on scoring 40-50 to win, you're an injury on offense away from going 0-12. When you watch a game and see that we're held to a punt or a FG attempt and you think "Well now we're going to lose, because we need to score a TD on every drive to ensure victory." We are not more competitive. Losing is losing. When you lose 5/5 conference games, you aren't putting a better product on the field. If your coach can tell his @$$ from a hole in the ground, you would beat at least one team that you weren't expected to beat. The 2010 team was the best you'll ever see under Dooley.

 

[HankHill]

We are still getting railroaded in those SEC games! Have you forgotten that UGA scored 51 points on us? You're confusing scoring points with being competitive. When you have to count on being able to score 40-50 points you aren't being competitive. You just have an exciting offense that's going to score a ton of points and still lose. When you watch a game and see that we're held to a punt of a FG attempt and you think "Well now we're going to lose, because we need to score a TD on every drive to ensure victory." We are not more competitive. Losing is losing. When you lose 5/5 conference games, you aren't putting a better product on the field. If your coach can tell his @$$ from a hole in the ground, you would beat at least one team that you weren't expected to beat. The 2010 team was the best you'll ever see under Dooley.

You obviously don't know what competitive means??? we were in position to win, we had our chances. That is what competitive means?

Just bc our d sucks doesn't mean we couldn't win. Look at the patriots their defense has been terrible for 5 years and they are "competitive"