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volsarelife1 said:
I'm good with the Sale trade, especially for that price. And Grissom was either going to just ride the bench or play in the minors again
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I dont mind it.

Now a greedy part of me wants another move.
Get another guy and go in to next season with Morton as your 5.
Keep Waldrep or AJSS and have them as the when someone gets injured option in AAA.
 
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TBrown said:
If 3/4 make it to October we might be cooking with gas?

Will 3/4 make it to October? Magic 8 ball says highly unlikely
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Love relying on 40 year old Charlie Morton and 35 year old Chris Sale to provide 300 innings AND make it to October healthy while I’m paying Ozzie Albies and Ronald Acuna $24M this season. Great asset management.
 
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I can see AA’s POV: I get Sale, hope in a contract year he stays healthy and gives me 3 WAR and then I either tip my cap to him and let him walk or just can replace Chuck’s $20M with Sale’s for 2025. Sale was still a 2 fWAR in 120 IP’s with a high K rate. Stuff is still excellent. And I don’t need to rush AJSS, Waldrep or Ian. In a vacuum, makes sense.

But once again, just this whole strategy. You’re gonna pay Sale/Morton $30M this year when you could have gotten Snell for $30M/year (and I don’t even love Snell!!). This whole “I cannot take any risk in the SP market” is so asinine. Ask the Rangers if Eovaldi was worth the second year (shoutout my boy @TBrown). Ask the Phillies how the ROI was for Wheeler. Ask the Astros how the Verlander trade went. Was signing Jon Lester a good move for the Cubs? Scherzer for the Nationals? HELL ASK THE RED SOX ABOUT HOW THE CHRIS SALE TRADE WENT IN 2018!

What is the damn point of having all these awesome position players locked up on long term, under market deals when my ****ing GM won’t give one halfway decent starter a multi year deal or trade for a controllable pitcher? It’s so infuriating to keep treating the SP market like we are the Cincinnati Reds or Kansas City Royals.
 
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zjcvols said:
I can see AA’s POV: I get Sale, hope in a contract year he stays healthy and gives me 3 WAR and then I either tip my cap to him and let him walk or just can replace Chuck’s $20M with Sale’s for 2025. Sale was still a 2 fWAR in 120 IP’s with a high K rate. Stuff is still excellent. And I don’t need to rush AJSS, Waldrep or Ian. In a vacuum, makes sense.

But once again, just this whole strategy. You’re gonna pay Sale/Morton $30M this year when you could have gotten Snell for $30M/year (and I don’t even love Snell!!). This whole “I cannot take any risk in the SP market” is so asinine. Ask the Rangers if Eovaldi was worth the second year (shoutout my boy @TBrown). Ask the Phillies how the ROI was for Wheeler. Ask the Astros how the Verlander trade went. Was signing Jon Lester a good move for the Cubs? Scherzer for the Nationals? HELL ASK THE RED SOX ABOUT HOW THE CHRIS SALE TRADE WENT IN 2018!

What is the damn point of having all these awesome position players locked up on long term, under market deals when my ****ing GM won’t give one halfway decent starter a multi year deal or trade for a controllable pitcher? It’s so infuriating to keep treating the SP market like we are the Cincinnati Reds or Kansas City Royals.
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Well said!!
 
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zjcvols said:
I can see AA’s POV: I get Sale, hope in a contract year he stays healthy and gives me 3 WAR and then I either tip my cap to him and let him walk or just can replace Chuck’s $20M with Sale’s for 2025. Sale was still a 2 fWAR in 120 IP’s with a high K rate. Stuff is still excellent. And I don’t need to rush AJSS, Waldrep or Ian. In a vacuum, makes sense.

But once again, just this whole strategy. You’re gonna pay Sale/Morton $30M this year when you could have gotten Snell for $30M/year (and I don’t even love Snell!!). This whole “I cannot take any risk in the SP market” is so asinine. Ask the Rangers if Eovaldi was worth the second year (shoutout my boy @TBrown). Ask the Phillies how the ROI was for Wheeler. Ask the Astros how the Verlander trade went. Was signing Jon Lester a good move for the Cubs? Scherzer for the Nationals? HELL ASK THE RED SOX ABOUT HOW THE CHRIS SALE TRADE WENT IN 2018!

What is the damn point of having all these awesome position players locked up on long term, under market deals when my ****ing GM won’t give one halfway decent starter a multi year deal or trade for a controllable pitcher? It’s so infuriating to keep treating the SP market like we are the Cincinnati Reds or Kansas City Royals.
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Rangers aren’t the best example for your argument. They won last year despite deGrom and Scherzer.
 
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zjcvols said:
I can see AA’s POV: I get Sale, hope in a contract year he stays healthy and gives me 3 WAR and then I either tip my cap to him and let him walk or just can replace Chuck’s $20M with Sale’s for 2025. Sale was still a 2 fWAR in 120 IP’s with a high K rate. Stuff is still excellent. And I don’t need to rush AJSS, Waldrep or Ian. In a vacuum, makes sense.

But once again, just this whole strategy. You’re gonna pay Sale/Morton $30M this year when you could have gotten Snell for $30M/year (and I don’t even love Snell!!). This whole “I cannot take any risk in the SP market” is so asinine. Ask the Rangers if Eovaldi was worth the second year (shoutout my boy @TBrown). Ask the Phillies how the ROI was for Wheeler. Ask the Astros how the Verlander trade went. Was signing Jon Lester a good move for the Cubs? Scherzer for the Nationals? HELL ASK THE RED SOX ABOUT HOW THE CHRIS SALE TRADE WENT IN 2018!

What is the damn point of having all these awesome position players locked up on long term, under market deals when my ****ing GM won’t give one halfway decent starter a multi year deal or trade for a controllable pitcher? It’s so infuriating to keep treating the SP market like we are the Cincinnati Reds or Kansas City Royals.
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I like this trade for a veteran starter and Grissom was blocked at the major league level on the Braves roster.

My dad is a Red Sox fan and he had a few questions on Grissom who will do well with Boston.
 
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